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Holy Maryland > B1G is a B1G Mess

These coaches make a lot of money and a lot of promises to kids that they ultimately see - lip service aside - as commodities. There are no excuses for coloring this far outside the lines.

But they have bosses, too, and if you're stopping short of the highest step on the latter when it comes to assigning blame, it's time to reassess. This doesn't strike me as an anomaly. An extreme, sure, but not an anomaly. Oversight is built into the system in a way that trickles from the top down - the NCAA enables the school and then the school enables the coach, until ultimately it's just one vicious business model that continues to churn on plausible deniability.

I am in no way defending the coaches. However, this is the culture. You push yourself to the absolute max, mentally and physically, and then you push some more. It's just what these people are trained to believe. They genuinely think that in the end it's going to make them better men - and in a lot of cases, they're probably right.

There is no semblance of checks and balances anywhere, though, which is why this went on like it did. Nobody who worked for the school ever bothered to stop by and watch a practice to make sure they weren't training like the Soviets under Stalin. Nobody from the NCAA cared even though they 100% knew this was going on. It's only ever about milking the cow to the final drop. They know that these coaches are by and large mentally unstable people, but nobody ever holds them accountable for hiring them. It's always oh my God how could they!...even though we already know...how...they...could.

Sometimes the biggest bullies wear suits, and to me, this is the type of scandal that should get the ball rolling towards institutional reform. The state needs to step in on something like this, because it took a hell of a lot more than one macho trainer to send this kid to his death.
 
CL82 said:
I read an article I think in the UConn mag that comes out periodically, about aggressive treatment of overheated athletes. It emphasized that having the ability to do an immediate ice bath had a big benefit in saving lives. So sad that it wasn't made available here. Pretty much all sports, but football in particular has a "push through it" culture. The fact that athletes aren't likely to complain until it is too late is all the greater need for immediate remediation to cool them down. So tragic to have needless and pointless loss of life.
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UConn is home to the Korey Stringer Institute, which studies tragic preventable stuff like this.

Home | Korey Stringer Institute
 
BlueDogs said:
Gotta love these overpaid s... anonymous complaints are "gutless"... that's the focus from the resident Carolina tough guy...not "hey, there is a dead student athlete and we need to really take a look at what happened..."
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He would only care if he was a 4-star and it impacted his depth chart.
 
Palatine said:
The inside story of a toxic culture at Maryland football

  • There is a coaching environment based on fear and intimidation. In one example, a player holding a meal while in a meeting had the meal slapped out of his hands in front of the team. At other times, small weights and other objects were thrown in the direction of players when Court was angry.
  • The belittling, humiliation and embarrassment of players is common. In one example, a player whom coaches wanted to lose weight was forced to eat candy bars as he was made to watch teammates working out.
  • Extreme verbal abuse of players occurs often. Players are routinely the targets of obscenity-laced epithets meant to mock their masculinity when they are unable to complete a workout or weight lift, for example. One player was belittled verbally after passing out during a drill.
  • Coaches have endorsed unhealthy eating habits and used food punitively; for example, a player said he was forced to overeat or eat to the point of vomiting.
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Nice to see the B1G is consistent at least. Mike Rice and now football Mike Rice.
 
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KSC94 said:
Nice to see the B1G is consistent at least. Mike Rice and now football Mike Rice.
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Rutgers was still in the Big East when Rice was their head BB coach.
 
uconnphil2016 said:
There's no way that Durkin survives this. He already had one of the hottest seats in CFB and was probably going get fired after the season unless they won 7 or 8 games. Now they can fire him and not pay him.
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Losing his job is the least of his worries if he's charged with involuntary manslaughter.
 
Muschamp should be fired for not being smart enough to avoid getting caught out over his skis. Do people even think anymore?
 
And it took a young man's death to bring attention to inner workings of Maryland Football.

I have no problem with intelligent tough coaches, but if the head coach isn't fired by the end of the week, I wouldn't let my son play there. That tells me the university values the program over players. How could I trust them to help my son if he was ever in harm's way?
 
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MilliniumPrince said:
And it took a young man's death to bring attention to inner workings of Maryland Football.

I have no problem with intelligent tough coaches, but if the head coach isn't fired by the end of the week, I wouldn't let my son play there. That tells me the university values the program over players. How could I trust them to help my son if he was ever in harm's way?
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I hear you, and I wonder how this affects the recruits they've signed for 2019, including Connecticut product David Summers.
 
huskymedic said:

>>Some members of the sprawling Terps community defended the program in the of the critical reports. Barry Gossett, the prominent booster whose name appears on the team’s football facility, is close to the program and said he’s hopeful fans and alumni don’t jump to conclusions, adding, “That’s not the DJ that I know that does things like that.”

“From a donor standpoint, I kind of stand behind DJ and his program and what he has been doing,” Gossett said in an interview Saturday. “I’m sure there have been instances where the kids have benefited from his tutelage, as well as the other coaches. On the other hand, there’s probably a couple that are disenchanted with any kind of rules and regulations where they have to do something that doesn’t fit their modus operandi, so to speak, as individual players.”<<
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Are you kidding me? A 19 year old died due to negligence. If his child died do you think he would be so forgiving?
 
In 2018 it's too harmful to the players for a program to get the death penalty, but apparently that's the punishment a player risks for not completing a drill. In the end it's just the lazy coach's way of sending a message to the rest of the team. The player in question is just collaterol damage. Makes you want to throw up.
 
Jimdish255 said:
In 2018 it's too harmful to the players for a program to get the death penalty, but apparently that's the punishment a player risks for not completing a drill. In the end it's just the lazy coach's way of sending a message to the rest of the team. The player in question is just collaterol damage. Makes you want to throw up.
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I definitely wouldn't throw up if Maryland's toxic football program gets the death penalty.
 
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huskyblooz said:
I think I remember something bad happening at Penn State, too!
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Lol. Also like at Ohio State now, the head coach was the only coach there apparently not aware of what was going on right under his nose.

I am just amazed that the NCAA only investigates what it feels comfortable investigating. The larger programs really do intimidate them. Years ago a former athletic director of the City of Bridgeport told me he knew first hand that Charles Smith was paid $60k to play at Pittsburgh, and that was just the tip of the iceberg of what went on in college basketball and football.
 
Schools start early in Arizona
and football practices were going on in last weeks 110 degree temps.
(The high will be only a very pleasant 100 today) Football practice is normally at night and it get dark earlier here with no DST. thank god.
You would think kids would drop like flies but it rarely happens.
As desert residents kids are trained early on hydration , every little kid carries big bottles or multiple bottles of water to school daily.
In fact there is a law on the books that makes it an offense to refuse water to anyone who asks. Most Banks hand out bottled water to customers or anyone who asks.
The people who die out here are typically tourists carrying too little water or drank cola, alcohol or even coffee before hiking. All increase dehydration.
Even my big beer drinking buddy would have water between his beers.
To give you an idea of the bodies water loss in this desert heat . When I golfed daily in summer I would drink
40-60 ounces of water during 18 holes and never once urinate.
Sweat evaporated so quickly you didn’t even realize you were sweating.
If you didn’t replace that loss
the consequences could be death.
Rarely will an Arizona resident leave home without water especially in summer. That’s something we never thought about or prepared for back east. When I first moved here I did get dehydrated once the symptoms were flu like. I thought I was dieing.
After that I added an electrolyte supplement to my water during summer golf.
 
mikedog10 said:
The City of Bridgeport used to have an athletic director?
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My guess is he was more likely the AD for the entire Bridgeport school system. When I was in HS in CT we had a Director of Athletics that worked for the school system, covering both high schools and all the junior high athletic programs.
 
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mikedog10 said:
The City of Bridgeport used to have an athletic director?
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Yes there was, the official title was director of physical education for the City of Bridgeport. Back in the MBIAC days it was an important post.
 
UConnNick said:
My guess is he was more likely the AD for the entire Bridgeport school system. When I was in HS in CT we had a Director of Athletics that worked for the school system, covering both high schools and all the junior high athletic programs.
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That's exactly right.
 
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