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Holy black eye, batman!

connie said:
Wow! From that angle, it sure looks like a foul. I am not faulting the refs (don’t know how they see half of what’s going on). But Lou was sliding over, and whoever on TX stepped down into the lane to cut off penetration, arm moving back. What a shot. Don’t know the rules enough to know whether it is incidental contact.
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In the NFL, you do that to a quarterback, they call roughing. :D
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
Replay shown during the game was from behind the basket, not over mid court as the one posted here. From behind the basket, it looked like the elbow was out there already and Lou didn't see it, but walked right into it. From this angle, it looks like the elbow went swinging back...whether she knew Lou was there or not is up for speculation.
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Doesn’t matter. Many fouls are inadvertent but fouls nevertheless. That was a foul no matter what the talking heads thought.
 
Kaizen said:
How can Lou run into the kid's elbow? See yourself ..

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On the replay #31 for Texas starts at the FT line and takes 2 steps back, with elbow high, and hits Lou. I dont think she did it intentionally but it was a foul that at least should have been looked at by the officials. Lou didnt walk into #31.
 
Padutch5 said:
Doesn’t matter. Many fouls are inadvertent but fouls nevertheless. That was a foul no matter what the talking heads thought.
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Ummm... not to be argumentative in the least... but it must not have been a foul since of course it wasn't called a foul by the only people involved in the game with the authority to make such a call... just sayin'. maybe they didn't see it? maybe they thought it was a "no call"... MY Point was simply to explain that the replay shown during the game was from a different angle that did not definitively show the impact and movement of the elbow. If it weren't for the black/blue/swollen eye, SOME on this board would have said Lou was doing a "flop" had she gotten the foul called... again... just sayin'. ;)
 
Biff said:
I didn't see it real time but after that replay it seemed to clearly be a foul by the rules. Not intentional but a foul nontheless.
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Even Rebecca blamed her. Bad B.
 
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ochoopsfan said:
On the replay #31 for Texas starts at the FT line and takes 2 steps back, with elbow high, and hits Lou. I dont think she did it intentionally but it was a foul that at least should have been looked at by the officials. Lou didnt walk into #31.
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If Lou run into the kid's elbow her face would be forward to the kid, not be hit and faced backward.
 
chrissaran said:
Intent doesn't matter. If you hit someone in the eye with an elbow, the call goes against you.
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Not true at all. Lots of times players are moving their arms in a normal legal fashion and happen to contact someone who is moving. Frequently no foul should be called.
 
Centerstream said:
I agree 100%. I was just stating how the ESPN crew, especially Kara, was adamant that it was Lou's fault.
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It was more Rebecca than Kara who was adamant about what happened.

Thanks to Lou's mom for video evidence that the elbow flew in to lou's face.
 
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I remember a play from last year sometimes where Lou was running on a break with her hand flinging backward and hit one of the other team player in the throat area by accident and the ref stopped the game to look at the film and called a flagrant foul on Lou, I think.
 
augustaTC said:
Apparently she managed to walk/run into the elbow or forearm. She has the knack. Gonna be a beaut tomorrow.
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If this keeps up, perhaps she'll have to resort to wearing "goggles" like Kareem and James Worthy did.
The injury to her eye (depth perception) may have been the reason she missed those 2 free throws late in the game. Not making excuses, just saying maybe. :rolleyes:
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Just found out from another thread that it was Rebecca Lobo who claimed that KLS "ran into" the Texas players elbow. Just wow. Head bangHead bang

She should call herself Rebecca Elbo from now on. :mad:
 
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How come only Katie Lou's dad attends the games? Doesn't the rest of the family want to come see her play?
 
MSGRET said:
The Refs should have stopped the game and looked at the replay, since Lou had to leave the game.
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30 to 60 point wins by UCONN Women's Basketball, HAVE and WILL continue to have, a built-in reaction, especially with TV networks, other teams, referees seeking to accomplish the RIGHT or BEST way to call a game. Seeking to "be nice" to the poor underdogs is
now rampant and understandable. PROBLEM is that rugby, hockey, wrestling have NO place in the sport of basketball. A little sympathy and seeking more competitive, close games, is nice, HOWEVER that turns into allowing grabbing, holding, blocking, charging, slapping, etc. Not being as quick, in as good condition, as athletic and more (all do to GOOD OLD HARD WORK) is negated for other objectives, mentioned above.
 
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Siestakeyfan said:
30 to 60 point wins by UCONN Women's Basketball, HAVE and WILL continue to have, a built-in reaction, especially with TV networks, other teams, referees seeking to accomplish the RIGHT or BEST way to call a game. Seeking to "be nice" to the poor underdogs is
now rampant and understandable. PROBLEM is that rugby, hockey, wrestling have NO place in the sport of basketball. A little sympathy and seeking more competitive, close games, is nice, HOWEVER that turns into allowing grabbing, holding, blocking, charging, slapping, etc. Not being as quick, in as good condition, as athletic and more (all do to GOOD OLD HARD WORK) is negated for other objectives, mentioned above.
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Agree with the OP. It is a natural reaction to show a little benevolence to the underdog whether its the refs swallowing their whistles or sports journalists reporting what they think they saw. Factor in the sway of home court and 12,000 screaming fans and fairness and objectivity go by the boards. I guess it comes with the territory for UCONN.
Nevertheless, KLS's shot to the eye should have been reviewed, IMO.
 
I was screaming at the TV in real time: "FOUL!" Apparently no one else even saw it happen, not the refs, not the announcers, who had to wait to see the replay before making the wrong call. The elbow definitely went back into Lou's face, likely inadvertently, but still.....
 
HoopsFan21 said:
How come only Katie Lou's dad attends the games? Doesn't the rest of the family want to come see her play?
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Mom has been to plenty games, Dad gets the air time. When Lou was in HS one parent was at every game while the other was at a Stanford game. They also have two dogs now and someone has to take care of them. Karlie was overseas and Bonnie is in Med school and doesnt get a lot of time off to travel. I think they were all at the FF last year in Dallas.
 
Scoop said:
If this keeps up, perhaps she'll have to resort to wearing "goggles" like Kareem and James Worthy did.
The injury to her eye (depth perception) may have been the reason she missed those 2 free throws late in the game. Not making excuses, just saying maybe. :rolleyes:
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When I was playing pickup ball in my early twenties, a guy ripped off half my cornea. Hurt like a .... It healed very nicely, by the way. The eyes are amazing. Anyway, afterwards, when playing pickup ball, I would always wear goggles. I was often made fun of, but then I would kick their butts and that was that. To me it's surprising that more injuries of the kind that happened to me don't occur and that more players don't wear goggles.

As far as the arm in Lou's face, I think it may very well have been intentional. There is no way to tell. (Anybody here personally know that player?) It was clearly a foul and in no way did the leaning back Lou run into the arm.
 
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