Herbst's responsibility in sports mess?

[MASSconn]

For what its worth, those students that they are attracting from China have very, very, wealthy parents, that like to throw money around...

This sounds like something someone from Arkansas would stay. We are a global university. Foreign students pay full tuition and broaden our scope in the job market.

 

[whaler11]

For what its worth, those students that they are attracting from China have very, very, wealthy parents, that like to throw money around...

Super. How do the taxpayers get an ROI on our UConn investment?

Spoiler alert - we don’t. We educate people who don’t live here and contribute to the state after they graduate. So we subsidize other places with our tax dollars.

Then they brag to us about where they are in the rankings. Wow - how exciting. I’m glad that you were able to take money from
this state to enrich other locations. Thanks!

 

[whaler11]

This sounds like something someone from Arkansas would stay. We are a global university. Foreign students pay full tuition and broaden our scope in the job market.

Wow we are a global university.

What is the ROI on this broke state funding that?

Our scope in the job market - what the hell does that even mean?

 

[Danzz]

Glad to hear Connecticut taxpayers are propping up a university that wants to attract more students from China.

That sounds like an awesome plan to get an ROI for the state on our investment!

Foreign students pay full out of state tuition with no financial aid of any kind available. They are the most profitable students. Connecticut students pay substantially less with in state rates along with financial aid.
Take a ride through the Yale. A large percentage of their students are Asian. It really is a question of income.

 

[whaler11]

Foreign students pay full out of state tuition with no financial aid of any kind available. They are the most profitable students. Connecticut students pay substantially less with in state rates along with financial aid.
Take a ride through the Yale. A large percentage of their students are Asian. It really is a question of income.

Last I checked I’m not funding Yale every other week.

If you guys don’t get this scam I don’t know how to help you. ‘Profitable’. Good one.

 

[UConnNick]

The Task Force report was very critical of John Toner and pretty specific about those criticisms, IIRC. That said on Toner's watch we: 1) joined the Big East (barely JT vacillated on it until the last moment), 2) hired Geno and 3) hired Jim Calhoun. Those are some pretty impressive wins regardless of the rest of tenure.

I guess I should add Toner was a very well respected NCAA president while he was the AD at UConn. I'll also add that my very limited interaction with him, he was a great guy.

Toner was criticised in the report for spending way too much time away from Storrs on NCAA business during his tenure. They pretty much blamed him for the AD being in the state it was in at the end of Perno's regime.

That said, he hit two home runs almost simultaneously by hiring Geno and Jim. The man clearly had an eye for talent. He pulled off a daily double the likes of which few ADs ever have. He did go on to be NCAA president, so he was very popular and personable among his peers. I can say the same as CL about my own personal encounters with him.

 

[huskyinfl]

International students pay $2k more than out of state, but some people can't comprehend "profit"

 

[Unsinkable]

She may be THE GREATEST at running the school. On her watch athletics have crashed and burned some if us have been questioning where this was headed for a few years.

It left a real impression on me when she made a disparaging remark about sending kids to Ames, Iowa. Instead now we send them Tulsa, Oklahoma, New Orleans, etc. I never felt she understood the stakes well enough to be pro active early on. The email from acting AD Paul Pendergast was another tell.

Nothing may have changed our current fate, but evidence points to being caught totally flat footed when the carousel started turning.

Spot-on. The conference re-alignment chess game is played mainly by the school presidents (not the ADs). She entered eight years ago in a fairly strong position and played the game terribly.

 

[B1GEast]

I don't know,Herbst hired Ward, who hired Diaco and we missed out on ACC expansion over Pitt and Louisville.

Now we don't have a flagship radio station to cover UConn games

It might be time for her to move on

 

[Deadrody]

This sounds like something someone from Arkansas would stay.

And that's something an arrogant jackass from MA or CT would say.

 

[J187Money]

Last I checked I’m not funding Yale every other week.

If you guys don’t get this scam I don’t know how to help you. ‘Profitable’. Good one.

You are, because Yale doesn't pay property taxes to New Haven, which in turn needs to be funded by the state.

 

[whaler11]

You are, because Yale doesn't pay property taxes to New Haven, which in turn needs to be funded by the state.

I figured someone would say that.

Hopefully someone fixes that soon, but it’s not really the same thing. Yale also has the benefit in this analysis of... being in Connecticut permanently and being one of the more important employers in the state - as opposed internationals who never darken our doors post graduation.

 

[hoopsknowitall]

I remember there being a thread about Herbst being a 3rdbass a while back. That’s when I realized I really wasn’t as bad off as I thought I was with some of the creepy comments posted.

Times have changed...

 

[J187Money]

I figured someone would say that.

Hopefully someone fixes that soon, but it’s not really the same thing. Yale also has the benefit in this analysis of... being in Connecticut permanently and being one of the more important employers in the state - as opposed internationals who never darken our doors post graduation.

I know it isn't the same thing - just being pedantic.

 

[noeynox]

I remember there being a thread about Herbst being a 3rdbass a while back. That’s when I realized I really wasn’t as bad off as I thought I was with some of the creepy comments posted.

Times have changed...

Yes, now some see her as a PILF. President I'd like to FIRE. Just kidding, but she seems to always get a pass for how bad things are.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Isn't who thinks she hasn't been great doesn't have a clue of what it means to be a University President.

Anyone who thins Warde was a mistake has no clue of the role of an AD or the situation at the time.

 

[DOZE860]

Super. How do the taxpayers get an ROI on our UConn investment?

Spoiler alert - we don’t. We educate people who don’t live her and contribute to the state after they graduate. So we subsidize other places with our tax dollars.

Then they brag to us about where they are in the rankings. Wow - how exciting. I’m glad that you were able to take money from
his state to enrich other locations. Thanks!

the return on investment would be, said wealthy parents donate money to the university, which benefits, guess who... us taxpayers... duh

 

[hardcorehusky]

Herbst made the call a few years ago to tighten admission standards for athletics. That has been one of the bigger issues from a competetive standpoint because we are in a conference with Memphis and other lower rated schools. RE had a problem with it- PP gave me examples of kids who couldn't get in that went to Temple. I was not close to KO so I don't know how that affected him.

 

[whaler11]

Isn't who thinks she hasn't been great doesn't have a clue of what it means to be a University President.

Anyone who thins Warde was a mistake has no clue of the role of an AD or the situation at the time.

A trained seal could fix the APR.

The guy hired Bob Diaco. Total loser. Must not be part of what an AD is responsible for.

I guess us ignorant dumb dumbs just can’t see the brilliance of a Warde Manual.

Maybe someday I’ll be bright enough to give everyone in leadership a pass for driving the ship into an iceberg.

 

[whaler11]

the return on investment would be, said wealthy parents donate money to the university, which benefits, guess who... us taxpayers... duh

Yeah sure - let’s see the books with all the huge donations from Chinese nationals.

That’s a good one. Maybe we should only have international students and the school can send us check every year like the casinos send the tribe members. It’s so profitable!

 

[shizzle787]

This sounds like something someone from Arkansas would stay. We are a global university. Foreign students pay full tuition and broaden our scope in the job market.

Globalist.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

A trained seal could fix the APR.

The guy hired Bob Diaco. Total loser. Must not be part of what an AD is responsible for.

I guess us ignorant dumb dumbs just can’t see the brilliance of a Warde Manual.

Maybe someday I’ll be bright enough to give everyone in leadership a pass for driving the ship into an iceberg.

At that moment in time, half the ADs in the country would have hired Bobby Red Pants. Many posters on this board were euphoric at the time. But he did more than just make one hire, and fixing APR legally is not that easy to do....but sure.

 

[uconnphil2016]

For what its worth, those students that they are attracting from China have very, very, wealthy parents, that like to throw money around...

They also aren't eligible for aid I don't think, so they pay in full out of pocket

 

[uconnphil2016]

You are, because Yale doesn't pay property taxes to New Haven, which in turn needs to be funded by the state.

Not that this is a reasonable replacement for paying property taxes, but I believe Yale pays the city of New Haven a good faith contribution each year instead of paying property taxes. I don't have the figures off hand, but they do pay the city. New Haven also has arguably the best economy of any CT city, so the net impact of Yale is probably positive on the city as a whole.

 

[huskymedic]

Not that this is a reasonable replacement for paying property taxes, but I believe Yale pays the city of New Haven a good faith contribution each year instead of paying property taxes. I don't have the figures off hand, but they do pay the city. New Haven also has arguably the best economy of any CT city, so the net impact of Yale is probably positive on the city as a whole.

Not to drive this further off topic but here’s your answer:

> all the people who come to the city to work or visit benefit from New Haven’s strong police and fire departments, with only Yale University paying $2 million toward fire service.

She said the $6.7 million voluntary payment by Yale to New Haven, as well as the $2.7 million from the Yale New Haven Hospital System...“ <<