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If he was vastly better, he wouldn’t have ended up at FAU. Any team in the BE could have taken him and they all passed. He was not good, like at all lol
What? Vastly better than the absurd opinion you lot have. That’s all. And yes, he was.
 
The man who thinks we’d have made the final four if only Hurley would have given Akok and Gaffney 30 mpg.
I never asked for more minutes for Gaff. As for Akok, if there is anybody who doesn’t think we would have been better playing him a lot more they didn’t pay attention. And have not looked at the stats. Almost all our best combined offense and defense lineups included him. He’s going to do well at Georgetown.
 
Better upgrade than any guard we would have had in his role (if true)…
 
Jalen was vastly better than the people here gave him credit for. His defense became adequate and his A to TO was fine at 2:1. His shot abandoned him but was fine as a sophomore. I doubted we’d replace him with anybody better and I still do.
I used to really like you (and @Fishy ) as posters, but this offseason was kind of sad for you.

Go back to the beginning of last season and look at my posts. I was higher on Gaffney than almost anyone on this board.

But I actually used my eyes to watch him (and Diggins) play this year.

I wish him the best because I think the fit here wasn’t right for him (he’s not a PG).

But damn. Y’all can’t keep up with the times.
 
think we're set with a 9 man rotation. sweet 16 or bust. you cant squeeze another 20-25 mpg out of the rotation for castle. we only have 3 frontcourt players that arent proven and they need PT. at least 10-15 mpg each.

Newton 30- Diarra 10
Alleyne 25- Diarra 10- Hawkins 5
Hawkins 20- Jackson 20
Jackson 10- Samson 15- Karaban 15
Sanogo 30- Clingan 10

30- newton, aj, sanogo
25- alleyne, hawk
20- diarra
15- samson, karaban
10- clingan
If the rotation is set, I’m not nearly as high as you are with the sweet 16 or bust.

My ideal situation is to bring in Castle, start him, & bring Alleyne off the bench as 6th man. Sure, Alleyne started at VT for 3 years, but if we want to win some postseason games here, one more break you down guard is still needed & sacrifices by some need to be made.
 
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If the rotation is set, I’m not nearly as high as you are with the sweet 16 or bust.

My ideal situation is to bring in Castle, start him, & bring Alleyne off the bench as 6th man. Sure, Alleyne started at VT for 3 years, but if we want to win some postseason games here, one more break you down guard is still needed & sacrifices by some need to be made.

If Karaban or Johnson step up Alleyne could be off the bench as you had hoped. Newton, AJ, Hawk, AK/SJ and Sanogo. We will see. The Castle situation could change the whole dynamic, no matter I hope both Karaban and Samson become good enough to demand minutes they are big pieces.
 
What? Vastly better than the absurd opinion you lot have. That’s all. And yes, he was.
Well, no BE or any other P5 coaching staffs agree with your assessment. The best mid major conferences don’t even agree with it either lol. But I’m sure you’re right, and all of those high major coaching staffs with 3 years of game tape and professional evaluation skills are wrong.
 
I want Castle here also and as someone above stated, Akok is DEFINITELY a loss that we all will see.
 
Just not sure what many saw in Akok that we will miss all that much. I mean he was nothing more than an 8-10 minute guy with the way he was playing. He blocked a few shots off the ball, made a few 3s and that’s good. He let everyone go by him on the baseline, couldn’t hold his ground being backed in to the basket. He hasn’t taken anyone off the dribble since his freshman year so that doesn’t make him much of an impact offensively. I mean granted if he suddenly gets all his gifts back maybe we will regret him leaving but honestly they guy who saw minutes last year rarely deserved any more than he got.

Good kid but looking forward to Samson and Alex time!
 
I never asked for more minutes for Gaff. As for Akok, if there is anybody who doesn’t think we would have been better playing him a lot more they didn’t pay attention. And have not looked at the stats. Almost all our best combined offense and defense lineups included him. He’s going to do well at Georgetown.
I’m just busting your chops.
 
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We weren't going to get a stud willing to come in and play only 15 mpg. This guy is willing to do it and should be a steady backup with solid defense despite the mediocre shooting numbers.

He fits the role we need.
He comes in with 3 years of eligibility left too, the same amount that Rahsool Diggins had when he left. I’ll take it.
 
The question isn’t is Diarra better than Gaffney. The question is is Newton better than Gaffney. The answer is yes.
Huh? Newton is replacing Cole. Diarra would presumably fill the 15 minute backup PG role. I am hoping Taliek can coach him up. That Assist to TO ratio is awful. His per 100 Ortg and Drtg are both worse than Jalen‘s. FG% is better for Diarra, but FT% is worse.
Diarra
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Gaffney
 
i beg to defer. In reality Newton is taking Cole’s role. Diarra Is a replacement for Gaffney and should be at least a slight upgrade with more upside
Huh? Newton is replacing Cole.
Two different conversations:

Are we better than last year?
Newton vs. Cole, SO Hawkins vs. Martin, Diarra vs. Gaffney, Alleyne vs. FR Hawkins, Johnson/Karaban vs. Whaley.

In the aggregate we are probably worse, maybe even, depending on Newton's play, Hawkins' improvement, and whether Johnson or Karaban can contribute positively right away. But JR Sanogo and JR Jackson should be better than their SO selves, so we're improved in the 2 other starting spots.

Are we better than we would have been with no transfers out?
Newton vs. Diggins, Alleyne vs. Gaffney, Diarra vs. Floyd, ? vs. Akok.

Unquestionably yes, for this upcoming year (and probably next as well).
 
Just not sure what many saw in Akok that we will miss all that much. I mean he was nothing more than an 8-10 minute guy with the way he was playing. He blocked a few shots off the ball, made a few 3s and that’s good. He let everyone go by him on the baseline, couldn’t hold his ground being backed in to the basket. He hasn’t taken anyone off the dribble since his freshman year so that doesn’t make him much of an impact offensively. I mean granted if he suddenly gets all his gifts back maybe we will regret him leaving but honestly they guy who saw minutes last year rarely deserved any more than he got.

Good kid but looking forward to Samson and Alex time!
You aren’t wrong at all but basketball is a game of rhythm and confidence and he never really got enough minutes to get a rhythm and thus his confidence went down along with Hurley’s confidence in him. That will usually happen to a couple players throughout the season because only 5 guys can play at a time. He might be better on a different team where his minutes are consistent and he’s allowed to play through mistakes. I think he has some basketball ptsd fron all he went through with the injury, the isolation and having his pro dreams basically shattered during his experience at uconn anyway and it’s great that he moved on.
 
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Two different conversations:

Are we better than last year?
Newton vs. Cole, SO Hawkins vs. Martin, Diarra vs. Gaffney, Alleyne vs. FR Hawkins, Johnson/Karaban vs. Whaley.

In the aggregate we are probably worse, maybe even, depending on Newton's play, Hawkins' improvement, and whether Johnson or Karaban can contribute positively right away. But JR Sanogo and JR Jackson should be better than their SO selves, so we're improved in the 2 other starting spots.

Are we better than we would have been with no transfers out?
Newton vs. Diggins, Alleyne vs. Gaffney, Diarra vs. Floyd, ? vs. Akok.

Unquestionably yes, for this upcoming year (and probably next as well).
Roster and lineup construction is undoubtedly better this year though. Last year’s roster had a pretty hard ceiling, but they had a high floor. This years team will have a much higher ceiling. We have shooters, ball handlers, and a junior year Sanogo.
 
Not hating on analytics! But I love seeing these basic statistical breakdowns from people who admittedly have never watched the kid play. Gaffney had better splits than Bazz at the same point. Did anyone expect Gaff to be better? I guess it's better than forming your entire season outlook based on Samson Johnson's AAU 3 point %, but it's still pretty stupid.
 
i beg to defer. In reality Newton is taking Cole’s role. Diarra Is a replacement for Gaffney and should be at least a slight upgrade with more upside
The reality is Cole was leaving to go pro. Players do that. The guy who would be next up, in theory, to run point was Gaffney. When Gaffney went into the portal we were essentially left without a point guard. His replacement was Newton. That’s an upgrade.

(Not that I don’t wish Jalen well, I do. I always felt like he gave his best for us. It just didn’t work out for him here.)

@HuskyHawk
 
Diarra (and Texas A&M as a whole) made some MAJOR strides towards the end of the season once Marcus Williams left.

The team played its last 13 games without him and went 11-2. Over that stretch Diarra averaged 19 minutes per game and put up 8/2/2 on 42/44/85 shooting splits. If he can replicate that kind of production as a plus level defender this is a perfect add.
 
Huh? Newton is replacing Cole. Diarra would presumably fill the 15 minute backup PG role. I am hoping Taliek can coach him up. That Assist to TO ratio is awful. His per 100 Ortg and Drtg are both worse than Jalen‘s. FG% is better for Diarra, but FT% is worse.
Diarra
SeasonSchoolConfGGSMPFGFGAFG%2P2PA2P%3P3PA3P%FTFTAFT%ORBDRBTRBASTSTLBLKTOVPFPTS
2020-21Texas A&MSEC18635236103.3502257.3861446.3041930.63373037301923833105
2021-22Texas A&MSEC40361478210.37144106.41534104.3275678.71876471562885254246
CareerTexas A&M589966114313.36466163.40548150.32075108.69414941088647109087351

Gaffney
You need to add another layer of context to the stats and then the real story becomes abundantly clear very quickly.

Jalen scored 131 points last year; 40 of those came in the first four games of the season against very weak competition, and to take that a step further: 56 came in those 4 games + 2 more with MD-ES and Grambling. He also had 24 of his 65 assists in those 6 games.

Against representative competition, we're talking about a sub-.300 FG% with a 3P% of 15 in 27 games. From the start of Big East play on, he shot .286% from the field, .188% from 3 and scored 44 points in 22 games with a 1.3 to 0.7 assist to turnover ratio. That is not a playable high-major player by any standard whatsoever.

You seem stuck on the assist to turnover ratio, but both Jalen's and H. Diarra's are misleading.

Jalen's fatal flaw is an inability to handle high-major ball pressure. To compensate for that, he turned his back to the defender and backed the ball up the court, eating up a large amount of the shot clock. His inability to initiate offense cratered our shot quality and offense efficiency because of the number of times it led to a game of hot potato to get a shot up for whomever ended up with the ball and less than 10 seconds to make something happen when he finally got us into a half-court set.

Diarra, meanwhile, played in a Buzz Williams system that has always led to low assist-to-turnover ratios.

Remember all those great guards he had at Marquette? Vander Blue averaged 1.8 assists to 2.3 turnovers his final year and a 2.0 assists/2.0 turnovers for his career. Darius Johnson-Odom posted a 2.7 assist to 2.4 turnover mark as an All-Big East first teamer in 2011-12. These are future NBA players on Sweet 16/Elite Eight teams. Look up and down last year's A&M roster and it's the same thing. It's the way they play.

Diarra also improved considerably as the season went on last year against high-major competition. I took his final 15 games as what seems like a fair indicator: He shot 434% from the field, .378% from 3 from that point on and as many have mentioned, there's reason in Texas A&M's roster construction change during the season to believe that is not a coincidence.

All this is to say that Jalen 100% did the right thing in leaving UConn for a level where his skillset can flourish without his inability to handle ball pressure destroying his production. And perhaps more importantly, to nip any idea of using a misrepresentation of what Gaffney was to cut down Hassan before he even plays his first game for us.
 
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Another thing to consider is that Gaffney posted his numbers/minutes largely against early season cupcakes and in garbage time throughout the season while Diarra, I believe, had more against better opponents/non-garbage time. So, if my assumption is accurate, another bit of a nod to Diarra.
 
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I’m wondering if people are being too rigid in him being labeled a “point guard.” Yes, he’s going to come in for 15-20 mins and probably dribble the ball a lot, but I still think Jackson will be the one initiating the offense when Newton’s not on the floor (and a lot of the time when Newton is on the floor). In a nutshell, I’m unfazed by a poor A/TO because I don’t expect that to be his primary role.

This is a very strong add for the kind of opening we had, especially if he really is OK with that bench role. I understand the concerns if we were indeed going to be relying on him as a second, strict lead guard, but that won’t be the case. Positionless basketball; no one has strict roles anymore defined by their positions (except Sanogo).
 
You need to add another layer of context to this stats and the real story becomes abundantly clear very quickly.

Jalen scored 131 points last year; 40 of those came in the first four games of the season against very weak competition, and to take that a step further: 56 came in those 4 games + 2 more with MD-ES and Grambling. He also had 24 of his 65 assists in those 6 games.

Against representative competition, we're talking about a sub-.300 FG% with a 3P% of 15 in 27 games. From the start of Big East play on, he shot .286% from the field, .188% from 3 and scored 44 points in 22 games with a 1.3 to 0.7 assist to turnover ratio. That is not a playable high-major player by any standard whatsoever.

You seem stuck on the assist to turnover ratio, but both Jalen's and H. Diarra's are misleading. Jalen's fatal flaw is an inability to handle high-major ball pressure. To compensate for that, he turned his back to the defender and backed the ball up the court, eating up a large amount of the shot clock. His inability to initiate offense cratered our shot quality and offense efficiency because of the number of times it led to a game of hot potato to get a shot up for whomever ended up with the ball and less than 10 seconds to make something happen when he finally got is into a half-court set.

Diarra, meanwhile, played in a Buzz Williams system that has always led to low assist-to-turnover ratios. Remember all those great guards he had at Marquette? Vander Blue averaged 1.8 assists to 2.3 turnovers his final year and a 2.0 assists/2.0 turnovers for his career. Darius Johnson-Odom posted a 2.7 assist to 2.4 turnover mark as an All-Big East first teamer in 2011-12. These are future NBA players on Sweet 16/Elite Eight teams. Look up and down last year's A&M roster and it's the same thing. It's just the way they play.

Diarra also improved considerably as the season went on last year against high-major competition. I took his final 15 games as what seems like a fair indicator: He shot 434% from the field, .378% from 3 from that point on and as many have mentioned, there's reason in Texas A&M's roster construction change during the season to believe that is not a coincidence.

All this is to say that Jalen 100% did the right thing in leaving UConn for a level where his skillset can flourish without his inability to handle ball pressure destroying his production. And perhaps more importantly, to nip any idea of using a misrepresentation of what Gaffney was to cut down Hassan before he even plays his first game for us.
We were typing at the same time, lol. Thanks for some of the data. :)
 
You need to add another layer of context to this stats and then the real story becomes abundantly clear very quickly.

Jalen scored 131 points last year; 40 of those came in the first four games of the season against very weak competition, and to take that a step further: 56 came in those 4 games + 2 more with MD-ES and Grambling. He also had 24 of his 65 assists in those 6 games.

Against representative competition, we're talking about a sub-.300 FG% with a 3P% of 15 in 27 games. From the start of Big East play on, he shot .286% from the field, .188% from 3 and scored 44 points in 22 games with a 1.3 to 0.7 assist to turnover ratio. That is not a playable high-major player by any standard whatsoever.

You seem stuck on the assist to turnover ratio, but both Jalen's and H. Diarra's are misleading.

Jalen's fatal flaw is an inability to handle high-major ball pressure. To compensate for that, he turned his back to the defender and backed the ball up the court, eating up a large amount of the shot clock. His inability to initiate offense cratered our shot quality and offense efficiency because of the number of times it led to a game of hot potato to get a shot up for whomever ended up with the ball and less than 10 seconds to make something happen when he finally got us into a half-court set.

Diarra, meanwhile, played in a Buzz Williams system that has always led to low assist-to-turnover ratios.

Remember all those great guards he had at Marquette? Vander Blue averaged 1.8 assists to 2.3 turnovers his final year and a 2.0 assists/2.0 turnovers for his career. Darius Johnson-Odom posted a 2.7 assist to 2.4 turnover mark as an All-Big East first teamer in 2011-12. These are future NBA players on Sweet 16/Elite Eight teams. Look up and down last year's A&M roster and it's the same thing. It's the way they play.

Diarra also improved considerably as the season went on last year against high-major competition. I took his final 15 games as what seems like a fair indicator: He shot 434% from the field, .378% from 3 from that point on and as many have mentioned, there's reason in Texas A&M's roster construction change during the season to believe that is not a coincidence.

All this is to say that Jalen 100% did the right thing in leaving UConn for a level where his skillset can flourish without his inability to handle ball pressure destroying his production. And perhaps more importantly, to nip any idea of using a misrepresentation of what Gaffney was to cut down Hassan before he even plays his first game for us.
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Two different conversations:

Are we better than last year?
Newton vs. Cole, SO Hawkins vs. Martin, Diarra vs. Gaffney, Alleyne vs. FR Hawkins, Johnson/Karaban vs. Whaley.

In the aggregate we are probably worse, maybe even, depending on Newton's play, Hawkins' improvement, and whether Johnson or Karaban can contribute positively right away. But JR Sanogo and JR Jackson should be better than their SO selves, so we're improved in the 2 other starting spots.

Are we better than we would have been with no transfers out?
Newton vs. Diggins, Alleyne vs. Gaffney, Diarra vs. Floyd, ? vs. Akok.

Unquestionably yes, for this upcoming year (and probably next as well).
I think this team is probably better. But them I’m high on Johnson and Karaban playing well and significantly. Hawkins showed a lot of improvement in short time, so that’s encouraging. Hoping for more from Jackson certainly. Newton vs Cole is a tough one. Alleyne probably won’t be as good as Martin. But would be much better than Polley, so it depends on how you think about it.

Real key is this lineup better fits what Dan wants to do. Should be better for that reason alone.
 
I think this team is probably better. But them I’m high on Johnson and Karaban playing well and significantly. Hawkins showed a lot of improvement in short time, so that’s encouraging. Hoping for more from Jackson certainly. Newton vs Cole is a tough one. Alleyne probably won’t be as good as Martin. But would be much better than Polley, so it depends on how you think about it.

Real key is this lineup better fits what Dan wants to do. Should be better for that reason alone.
I agree with this but I also hate the idea on these threads that we have to do a 1:1 comparison of who we brought in vs who we lost. We do not want to bring in clones for the guys we lost, because that means we have the same lineup issues as last year. We had 1 guy last year who would (or could?) beat his man off the dribble, and that guy was barely 6’ tall. This year we should have at least 3 of those guys on the court assuming Jackson and Hawkins develop like we expect them too. Add in a junior year Sanogo, and this team is going to be so much more fluid and versatile.
 
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