Hassan Diarra fulfills a dream, sees championships in his future with UConn

[CL82]

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that my imagined scenario really did happen

Lol, if you realize that your “imagined scenario” is just that, imagined, then why are you still droning on about it?

[CL82 thinks to himself] Please don’t let him imagine some kind of alien abduction theory next.

 

[NotADime89]

If I thought I was proven wrong, I'd be happy to admit it. Look at it this way: Let's say, for the sake of argument, that my imagined scenario really did happen. What would Mamadou tell a reporter in that case? I would expect him to say exactly what he is quoted as saying in the article. (To do otherwise would be to unnecessarily invite scrutiny into the matter.) Now, of course, the quotes he gave to Borges would have also been expected if his claims are true. I am not claiming this article supports my suspicion. I am only saying it does nothing whatsoever to contradict it, in my opinion.

Good lord you spend your free time arguing with other people about idiotic scenarios you make up in your head.....

 

[District-Husky]

One of the greatest problems in our society is that it encourages, and even rewards, narcissists who completely lack the ability to admit when they are wrong.

 

[Get a Job]

I have apparently struck a nerve, so I apologize to the people I have hurt. Anyone care to clue me in at to why, though? I have seen crazier and more incendiary takes than mine go by without vitriolic response. Just curious.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Lol, if you realize that your “imagined scenario” is just that, imagined, then why are you still droning on about it?

[CL82 thinks to himself] Please don’t let him imagine some kind of alien abduction theory next.

I don't understand his motivation but he is determined to die on that hill.

 

[Get a Job]

I don't understand his motivation but he is determined to die on that hill.

You're the one guy who agreed with me (or at least was willing to discuss it without getting personal) last round!

 

[8893]

One of the greatest problems in our society is that it encourages, and even rewards, narcissists who completely lack the ability to admit when they are wrong.

@Get a Job for President!

 

[superjohn]

If what the article says is true, of course my point from a couple weeks ago is moot. The reported scenario is nothing like my admittedly imagined scenario.

Now, if you think it's more likely that the reported scenario is true compared to the likelihood of my imagined scenario being true, well, bridge for sale and all that.

Aside: I'd like to reiterate that I was never condemning Hassan, Mamadou, or Hurley. I was condemning the people who would cry tampering if this scenario played out anywhere else.

You started off good and then the wheels fell off, just take the L and move along.

 

[MDHuskFan]

I have apparently struck a nerve, so I apologize to the people I have hurt. Anyone care to clue me in at to why, though? I have seen crazier and more incendiary takes than mine go by without vitriolic response. Just curious.

It’s prob the fact that you made the argument as if it was fact, and it kinda wouldn’t make the program look in the best light (if there was any factual argument here)

Then as more and more information came out, insiders here, reporters, player & family, & coaches say your theory is wrong, you just follow it up with “still could have happened my way”.

Versus showing humility, you went 7th degree rabbit hole conspiracy theorist on this. Was just overkill.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

You're the one guy who agreed with me (or at least was willing to discuss it without getting personal) last round!

I absolutely did not agree with you. What I did was state that what you were claiming as a possibility could not happen.

Now, that considerable evidence is in, your stance is basically if certain things did happen behind the scenes and the parties involved lied about, then your premise could be correct. You are creating a conspiracy where one doesn't exist and you are adding layers to it in order to avoid claiming you were wrong.

 

[bendm]

Really, 20 mpg isn't much for the third guard. If you only play 2 guard lineups, there are 80 minutes and they could be split 30-30-20. If you often play three guard lineups, there are a lot more minutes.

as has been said, diarra is the 4th G and my guesstimate of 20 mpg is already based on the assumption that we start a small ball lineup with AJ at the 4. the starters should all be locked into 25-30 mpg so i dont see diarra getting more than 20 unless our young bigs (samson, karaban, clingan) aren't playing as much as we're hoping, thereby forcing us to play small a majority of the time. the more time we use traditional lineups the less time diarra will get.

Newton 30- Diarra 10
Alleyne 25-Diarra 10- Hawk 5
Hawk 20- Jackson 20
Jackson 10- Samson 15- Karaban 15
Sanogo 30- Clingan 10

 

[Get a Job]

It’s prob the fact that you made the argument as if it was fact, and it kinda wouldn’t make the program look in the best light (if there was any factual argument here)

Then as more and more information came out, insiders here, reporters, player & family, & coaches say your theory is wrong, you just follow it up with “still could have happened my way”.

Versus showing humility, you went 7th degree rabbit hole conspiracy theorist on this. Was just overkill.

You will not find one instance of me posting on this topic "as if it was fact". I have gone out of my way to point out that I acknowledge my suspicions are purely speculation. I am sensitive to this criticism because it is my one of my pet peeves when other people do it, and they do it a lot on here.

To the second half of your first sentence, I'm guessing you're exactly right. This whole time, I've been thinking to myself, "Jeez, these people are reacting as if I just said their wives are whores." I guess that's how my speculation was received.

I'd argue my claim was more along the lines of, "This looks like a case of our wives speeding, so let's make sure not to get all high and mighty next time we find out about Mrs. Boeheim speeding." But whatevs.

 

[Get a Job]

I absolutely did not agree with you. What I did was state that what you were claiming as a possibility could not happen.

Now, that considerable evidence is in, your stance is basically if certain things did happen behind the scenes and the parties involved lied about, then your premise could be correct. You are creating a conspiracy where one doesn't exist and you are adding layers to it in order to avoid claiming you were wrong.

This is what I was referring to.

 

[CL82]

I have seen crazier and more incendiary takes than mine go by without vitriolic response.

Conspiracy Kitty says:
Have you though? Dude, let it go. Even I think this is batshit crazy.

 

[ClifSpliffy]

I have apparently struck a nerve, so I apologize to the people I have hurt. Anyone care to clue me in at to why, though? I have seen crazier and more incendiary takes than mine go by without vitriolic response. Just curious.

i had a longer explanation, but it got poofed.
here's the short answer:
lots of folks walking around here, just looking for things to be butthurt aboot. real or imagined.

 

[NJHoops]

”All I did was imply that the new guy and his brother, who has been on staff the last few years, are liars. What’s the big deal?!”

Anyway, a greatly improved Diarra would start. The more likely outcome is he‘s coming off the bench and is a constant reminder to get it together from jump or he’s taking your minutes.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

If some kid signed with another program where his brother had been on the staff for years only the usual crazies would be crying foul anyway so the entire “tampering” hypothetical that started this disaster seemed silly to begin with.

 

[MDHuskFan]

You will not find one instance of me posting on this topic "as if it was fact". I have gone out of my way to point out that I acknowledge my suspicions are purely speculation. I am sensitive to this criticism because it is my one of my pet peeves when other people do it, and they do it a lot on here.

To the second half of your first sentence, I'm guessing you're exactly right. This whole time, I've been thinking to myself, "Jeez, these people are reacting as if I just said their wives are whores." I guess that's how my speculation was received.

I'd argue my claim was more along the lines of, "This looks like a case of our wives speeding, so let's make sure not to get all high and mighty next time we find out about Mrs. Boeheim speeding." But whatevs.

You asked a question, I answered. Your need to rebuttal is indicative of the problem at hand. I won’t reply anymore to this, in an effort to not muddy up the thread.

 

[pj]

The vibe I get is a rich man's Terrence Samuel, with a jump shot.

A rich man's Terrence Samuel with a jump shot is a totally different player than Terrence Samuel.

 

[pj]

as has been said, diarra is the 4th G and my guesstimate of 20 mpg is already based on the assumption that we start a small ball lineup with AJ at the 4. the starters should all be locked into 25-30 mpg so i dont see diarra getting more than 20 unless our young bigs (samson, karaban, clingan) aren't playing as much as we're hoping, thereby forcing us to play small a majority of the time. the more time we use traditional lineups the less time diarra will get.

Newton 30- Diarra 10
Alleyne 25-Diarra 10- Hawk 5
Hawk 20- Jackson 20
Jackson 10- Samson 15- Karaban 15
Sanogo 30- Clingan 10

If Hawkins and Jackson are guards, then we're playing 3 guard lineups all the time and 4 guard lineups often. Then we have 5 guards, and they're splitting 130-140 minutes.

You have Diarra at 20 mpg and your "guards" at 130 minutes, so I take it we don't differ about much if anything.

 

[CL82]

If some kid signed with another program where his brother had been on the staff for years only the usual crazies would be crying foul anyway so the entire “tampering” hypothetical that started this disaster seemed silly to begin with.

You’re not wrong, but that is pretty normal Internet fodder. What’s weird is a UConn fan on a UConn board imagining violations, talking about them ad nauseam, and then asserting that a respected alumni and former staff member must be lying when he says the imagined scenario didn’t take place.

 

[Get a Job]

You’re not wrong, but that is pretty normal Internet fodder. What’s weird is a UConn fan on a UConn board imagining violations, talking about them ad nauseam, and then asserting that a respected alumni and former staff member must be lying when he says the imagined scenario didn’t take place.

• I never said anyone violated any rules.
• Is Mamadou not a current staff member? That would change things.
• Alumnus*

 

[superjohn]

A rich man's Terrence Samuel with a jump shot is a totally different player than Terrence Samuel.

A lot of us are El-Amin without the jump shot, dribbling, and passing. 5'10 fat guys who talk a lot of smack.

 

[jleves]

• I never said anyone violated any rules.
• Is Mamadou not a current staff member? That would change things.
• Alumnus*

You - out of the gene pool!

 

[CL82]

• I never said anyone violated any rules.
• Is Mamadou not a current staff member? That would change things.
• Alumnus*

No you just imagined it, over and over and over. It’s weird

 

[Huskyforlife]

There’s a lot of gullible people on this board.

 

[Improviser]

A lot of us are El-Amin without the jump shot, dribbling, and passing. 5'10 fat guys who talk a lot of smack.

Regarding the weight, this stuff happens and life happens, even to guys who used to be 5'10 and are now 5'8.

Live long enough and you either get fat or skinny compared to where you were when you were younger.

Maybe the older skinny ones because of loss of muscle mass or diminished appetite with age.

And, the older fat ones, less activity, or metabolism slowing down or enjoying pizza and not having the work stress that left because of retirement.

Look at the girth of some of the former UConn BB players from one of the championship teams, and they aren't even old.

 

[Jbirdp5]

' I was condemning the people who would cry tampering if this scenario played out anywhere else'
yup.

@Get a Job here’s the only person agreeing with you, that should tell you something

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I don't understand his motivation but he is determined to die on that hill.

...or maybe die trying.™

I'm finding it oddly fun, but I don't know if it's because I understand what's going on, or because I don't understand what's going, or because I don't really care all that much, or because I wonder if I ought to care.This might all just be a brand-building exercise, whether intentional or accidental. Or maybe the effort is required to pay off a lost bet.

I'd claim that I'm gonna fold, but I never anted.

"Life is just a game,
You fly a paper plane,
There is no end"

[Repeat until full fade]

 

[UCLJ0211]

I like the look of his game in those highlights -- physical guard not afraid to finish through contact.

The vibe I get is a rich man's Terrence Samuel, with a jump shot.

If he could give us what Kromah did in 2014 that would be amazing.