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I'm not sure what annoys me more. The trip or the initial defense. Allen is riding the hell out of the Elon kid. To top it off he argues with the ref for a moment. What a spazz.
 
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And the Duke coaches...what a bunch of coddling pansies. I can't imagine a player losing control like that on the bench under Calhoun. The concept is completely inconceivable. He was a complete authoritarian on the basketball court. His players did what he said and that's final. Even KO has done a decent job as a disciplinarian. Adams sat for a half last year against Temple for some sportsmanship issues. Adams issues were nothing like this....
 
NDakotaHusky said:
And the Duke coaches...what a bunch of coddling pansies. I can't imagine a player losing control like that on the bench under Calhoun. The concept is completely inconceivable. He was a complete authoritarian on the basketball court. His players did what he said and that's final. Even KO has done a decent job as a disciplinarian. Adams sat for a half last year against Temple for some sportsmanship issues.
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If a player did that on Calhoun's bench is legitimately be worried for the safety of not only that player but the entire team. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the locker room and practice the following day.
 
BUConn10 said:
If a player did that on Calhoun's bench is legitimately be worried for the safety of not only that player but the entire team. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the locker room and practice the following day.
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Agreed, but my point is it would never even get this far. JC was the boss on the court and his players were conditioned well before game time. There would never be any need for discipline like this on the court during an actual game. I have a hard time even imagining a player on a JC bench having some kind of tantrum that wasn't settled with one emphatic sit down and shut you ....or something along those line.
 
BUConn10 said:
People need to stop expecting K to do something about this. It's no longer just a coincidence or chance. When your players consistently play like this, flop, and cry to the refs while you tear into them for every single whistle they blow it becomes more of a culture you propagate more than anything. He's had a long history of Grayson Allen's under his tutelage.
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Totally agree. The walk-ons pat Allen on the bench. All the coaches but Scheyer completely ignore Allen. Scheyer totally coddles him. The Duke coaches and players reaction makes this appear as totally acceptable behavior by Allen.

And I'm knit-picking a little, but K asked the Elon coach and player to meet him and Grayson in his coach's room. I'm sorry, but if K feels the need to apologize, K and Grayson need to walk over to the opposing locker room. You don't setup a safe space where Grayson feels comfortable. Grayson and K need to enter the opposing locker room and apologize in front of the entire Elon team. Even K's apology attempt coddles his spoiled brat player.
 
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You let the guy back into the same game in which he deliberately trips an opponent, and THEN he gets suspended indefinitely? Wow.

Ratface and what passes for an athletic administration merely caved in to the media firestorm. How convenient. An indefinite suspension. That way he can come back anytime he wants, after they enroll him in some anger management seminar and make him do a little community service. Oh, and a sincerely worded written and spoken apology, that will likely be drafted for him by a staff member.

His parents are part of the problem. They just want the whole thing to go away by itself, something these nitwits must have been telling him his entire life when he screws up. They're enablers.

What's really too bad is that none of his three victims ever went ballistic and opened a can of whup ass on this little creep. That's the only lesson people like him might understand. They were all very classy to just walk away.
 
Yep, obviously he should have been suspended the first time and the second time. This one should be 3rd strike you are out. I just read the espn piece about the suspension and unbelievably it ends with saying Allen had the opportunity to leave Dook last year and be a first round pick?! I don't think anybody thinks he's an nba player. So he's still coddled & benefits from the Dook halo even in the article critical of his being coddled.
 
This quote from one of his teammates has me grinning ear to ear. Just perfect dook.

"I love Grayson. He's my brother," Jones said. "We've been to battle. We've won a [national] championship together. We won plenty of games together. So there's nothing really you can say.

"I just gave him a really big hug, told him, 'I love you.' That's all that was, and let the silence kind of fill the void. There's nothing really you can say about it."


 
intlzncster said:
This quote from one of his teammates has me grinning ear to ear. Just perfect dook.

"I love Grayson. He's my brother," Jones said. "We've been to battle. We've won a [national] championship together. We won plenty of games together. So there's nothing really you can say.

"I just gave him a really big hug, told him, 'I love you.' That's all that was, and let the silence kind of fill the void. There's nothing really you can say about it."
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Awwww I'm a little snow flake...
 
Rocktheworld said:
JC, even in his 74th year of age, could walk up to Grayson Allen and slap him around at will.

What he would do is nip it in the bud and not let it span the course of two seasons with little action taken, like Coach K has. Colossal failure there. And it's far from his first player who has pulled crap like Allen has; however, I'm not sure any have had a meltdown quite like that one tonight.
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Zero chance it would ever have gotten to this point though. After the first trip last year, JC probably would have killed the kid, revived him, and then punished him harshly.

It's amazing what the fear of god will do to a kid's attitude.
 
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intlzncster said:
This quote from one of his teammates has me grinning ear to ear. Just perfect dook.

"I love Grayson. He's my brother," Jones said. "We've been to battle. We've won a [national] championship together. We won plenty of games together. So there's nothing really you can say.

"I just gave him a really big hug, told him, 'I love you.' That's all that was, and let the silence kind of fill the void. There's nothing really you can say about it."
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WTF.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Suspended for indefinite amount of time. Guess it ends before Virginia
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Yeah, I'm skeptical on the "indefinite" part. Will he sit out until the first game in February or will he be back after the holidays. I'm thinking this will be like when Bobby Bowden would suspend Sebastian Janikowski at FSU - suspended indefinitely on Sunday, reinstated on Friday.
 
NDakotaHusky said:
Totally agree. The walk-ons pat Allen on the bench. All the coaches but Scheyer completely ignore Allen. Scheyer totally coddles him. The Duke coaches and players reaction makes this appear as totally acceptable behavior by Allen.

And I'm knit-picking a little, but K asked the Elon coach and player to meet him and Grayson in his coach's room. I'm sorry, but if K feels the need to apologize, K and Grayson need to walk over to the opposing locker room. You don't setup a safe space where Grayson feels comfortable. Grayson and K need to enter the opposing locker room and apologize in front of the entire Elon team. Even K's apology attempt coddles his spoiled brat player.
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K didn't even know the opposing kid's name
 
StoweD210 said:
Yeah, I'm skeptical on the "indefinite" part. Will he sit out until the first game in February or will he be back after the holidays. I'm thinking this will be like when Bobby Bowden would suspend Sebastian Janikowski at FSU - suspended indefinitely on Sunday, reinstated on Friday.
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DURHAM, NC - January 2, 2017 - Duke Basketball has announced the reinstatement of Junior Grayson Allen after a 10 day suspension, including a game against Virginia Tech (an 87-69 Duke victory). Coach Mike Krzyzewski said, "Grayson is a great kid. He took some time during the holidays to reflect on his behavior and what it means to be a Duke basketball player. Grayson is ready to embrace the new year with a new attitude and we welcome him back with open arms (and then closed arms for a big hug) to battle Georgia Tech in two days. Grayson understands that his previous behavior is not acceptable and if he trips someone again I'll be very VERY disappointed." Asked if the suspension of one game was light considering Allen's third tripping incident, Coach K stated "go yourself. You don't get to question me! I'm a legend and my program is squeaky clean! Just ask anyone on my staff!"
 
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I love how Grayson and apologists are trying to say the Elon kid hooked or grabbed or squeezed his arm. Um no that's you reaching in and him falling over because you tripped him.
 
temery said:
His tantrum on the bench after the technical was on the pre school level. I was surprised he got back in for the 2nd half.
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It really is something the amount of direct comparisons multiple folks across networks are making between 21ish year old Allen and their own young children.
 
StoweD210 said:
Yeah, I'm skeptical on the "indefinite" part. Will he sit out until the first game in February or will he be back after the holidays. I'm thinking this will be like when Bobby Bowden would suspend Sebastian Janikowski at FSU - suspended indefinitely on Sunday, reinstated on Friday.
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I believe in this case "Indefinitely" means until the first conference game.
 
CL82 said:
He's like a more mentally unstable Laettner.
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That is a very scary concept to wrap your head around, although in Laettner's case, I found his mom far more terrifying than him.
 
temery said:
His tantrum on the bench after the technical was on the pre school level. I was surprised he got back in for the 2nd half.
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Coach K claims he didn't see and had no idea about the tantrum in the bench until after the game when he watched tape. Claims he wouldn't have played him the rest of the game if he saw the outburst.

It's interesting how coach k hasn't said he suspended him. He's been saying we as if the school instructed him to suspend Allen
 
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So is Coddler an official position on the Duke coaching staff?

Allen's mom did a nice job re editing his Wikipedia write up.

Here's the pertinent section (I'm wondering what the part I bolded has to do with the subject)


Tripping Incidents
Allen received national attention for intentionally tripping Louisville's Raymond Spalding on February 8, 2016, which led to a widely read ESPN.com article asking if he was, “the next hated white Duke player.”[12] In the second game against Louisville that season, he was elbowed in the head while scuffling for a ball on the ground[13] and later received a technical and ejection for yelling at a referee following his fifth foul on a charge call.[14] On Thursday, February 25, 2016, in the closing seconds of a 15-point win against FSU, Allen tripped FSU's Xavier Rathan-Mayes.[15] A day later, Allen received a reprimand from the ACC for his second tripping incident in less than a month.

Prior to the start of his junior season, Allen stated that he was ready to put the tripping incidents behind him.[16] He then tripped Elon Phoenix's Steven Santa Ana during their December 21 game. Allen was charged with a technical on the play.[17][18] The next day, Coach Krzyzewski suspended Allen from the team indefinitely.[19]

So was the ejection for the technical referenced above imposed for the next game? Because since he'd already fouled out, it couldn't have been imposed that game, could it?
 
methodology said:
Coach K claims he didn't see and had no idea about the tantrum in the bench until after the game when he watched tape. Claims he wouldn't have played him the rest of the game if he saw the outburst.

It's interesting how coach k hasn't said he suspended him. He's been saying we as if the school instructed him to suspend Allen
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Despite my earlier sarcastic response about the length of the suspension, I am hearing at least one month suspension. Duke wouldn't do anything without K's approval, but maybe K feel's betrayed after giving Allen a third chance. He demands loyalty for better or worse.
 
Chuck said:
Despite my earlier sarcastic response about the length of the suspension, I am hearing at least one month suspension. Duke wouldn't do anything without K's approval, but maybe K feel's betrayed after giving Allen a third chance. He demands loyalty for better or worse.
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He sure didn't sound like he was all that upset about "loyalty" in his postgame remarks. On the contrary, he inexplicably made a very lame attempt to try deflecting some of the blame onto the rest of the team. Plus why didn't he announce the suspension right after the game?

It sounds more like some higher ups at the school took a look at the unmerciful beating they were taking in the media and decided enough is enough, and they dictated that he suspend the punk.
 
"Grayson Allen leads the nation in triple triples and he's hoping his season ends with a trip to the National Championship game. If that doesn't happen, it'll be a crying shame for Grayson and Duke Nation."
 
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