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Gonazaga joins the Pac12

sarcasm aside let's say F$U, clemson, miami, and UNC join the BIG12. that would leave a 14 team conference with: UConn, Cuse, BC, Pitt, VT, UVA, NC St, duke, Wake, GT, Lville, SMU, Cal, Stanford and ND as a partial member.

if it paid out ~$15-20 mill/year (which seems realistic if the new PAC is projected to get ~$12mill/year) that could almost triple our current tv revenue.

so you're hoping to stay indy for football and in the BE for bball? cause that's the only other realistic option....
PS- you dont have to tag someone's username when you're replying to their post.
I think the more likely scenario is that FSU and Clemson join the SEC, UNC and Miami join the big ten, and then a few stragglers like Louisville, VT, and Duke/NC st join the big 12. That would make the ACC a lot less appealing as a conference of the remaining teams.

What would be an interesting scenario is if some of the remaining schools then join the PAC 12 for an East/West division (minus BC of course).
 
I think the more likely scenario is that FSU and Clemson join the SEC, UNC and Miami join the big ten, and then a few stragglers like Louisville, VT, and Duke/NC st join the big 12. That would make the ACC a lot less appealing as a conference of the remaining teams.

What would be an interesting scenario is if some of the remaining schools then join the PAC 12 for an East/West division (minus BC of course).
Nobody is leaving the ACC for the Big XII. At this point it is unlikely that the B1G or SEC want any of the ACC schools. The SEC might take FSU and Clemson, but I don't think the B1G is interested anymore, it got the 4 top programs from the Pac. Rumors of the ACC's demise are greatly exaggerated. It's still better off than the Big XII.
 
Nobody is leaving the ACC for the Big XII. At this point it is unlikely that the B1G or SEC want any of the ACC schools. The SEC might take FSU and Clemson, but I don't think the B1G is interested anymore, it got the 4 top programs from the Pac. Rumors of the ACC's demise are greatly exaggerated. It's still better off than the Big XII.
If Clemson and FSU leave, which is very realistic and only roadblock being the grant of rights, then that downgrades the ACC a lot. UNC would be the next biggest brand and absolutely one the big ten would want. That leaves Miami and maybe VT as next biggest brands, and also the big 12 as a lot more appealing. I think Miami fits well with the big ten geographically and academically, but maybe not (VT and Miami would still definitely be brands the big 12 would want though).

Point being, if the schools can get around the grant of rights, the ACC is going down.
 
Way down the line after the dust settles and everyone has poached everyone, they should form some sort of national association of collegiate athletes. They could create “divisions” so schools play against other schools in their region (i.e. the “Large Eastern Division” or something). Could probly even come up with a cool postseason structure where the best teams nationwide compete in a big single elimination tournament played at sites all over the country. Winner of the tourney is crowned “Basketball Champion of the Nation.” Idk that’s my vision for the future of college hoops..
 
Nobody is leaving the ACC for the Big XII.
No one from the PAC12 was supposed to leave for the big12 either but the same exact thing is going to play out in about 10 years. All 3 of the sec big10 and big12 are going to renew their tv contracts right before the acc leaving them scraps
 
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A conference with 6 teams would have no reason to add a big brand as a football only member as they are trying to get off the ground?
It would be a complete gesture of charity for anyone to add us football only. Won’t believe it until I see it.
 
I think the more likely scenario is that FSU and Clemson join the SEC, UNC and Miami join the big ten.
The only school the big10 deems worthy is notre dame. The big10 and sec don’t need the others but the big12 would gladly take them
 
Notre Dame is extremely unlikely to join the Big 10 due to things that happened as far back as the 19th century and a number of times since.

I saw a Youtube on this, but it's 30 minutes and rather nerdy... But here's an article that paraphrases the ideas from the video:

Worth a read...
 
No one from the PAC12 was supposed to leave for the big12 either but the same exact thing is going to play out in about 10 years. All 3 of the sec big10 and big12 are going to renew their tv contracts right before the acc leaving them scraps

Right now, the ACC media contract with ESPN ends in 2027. ESPN failed to renew it through 2036 by the contract required 2021 deadline (kept as a secret by the ACC office)....and the ACC is currently negotiating.
 
Wonder how UConn would feel about a 5 year GOR… on one hand we’d have a football home. On the other, we wouldn’t be able to put football anywhere else (like the Bug 12) if they came calling. Tough one.

The Big 12 didn't want us until 2031 and even then it was conditional. 5 years is nothing.
 
Wonder how UConn would feel about a 5 year GOR… on one hand we’d have a football home. On the other, we wouldn’t be able to put football anywhere else (like the Bug 12) if they came calling. Tough one.
Could always send BB 1st if it came to that as you continue to build FB toward something resembling respectability!
 
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No one from the PAC12 was supposed to leave for the big12 either but the same exact thing is going to play out in about 10 years. All 3 of the sec big10 and big12 are going to renew their tv contracts right before the acc leaving them scraps
It's different. The Pac was always the weakest and most vulnerable conference. It was also arrogant and misplayed an opportunity to expand. The simple reality is that Pacific time games are worth less than Eastern time games.

The ACC has a pretty good group of brands in rapidly growing states. None of those schools, including FSU, would be better off in the Big XII. The ACC earns more than the Big XII and probably will in the next contract. If they are smart, and they haven't been, they'd add UConn and try to poach WVU (which would prefer to be with rivals Pitt and VT).
 
If Clemson and FSU leave, which is very realistic and only roadblock being the grant of rights, then that downgrades the ACC a lot. UNC would be the next biggest brand and absolutely one the big ten would want. That leaves Miami and maybe VT as next biggest brands, and also the big 12 as a lot more appealing. I think Miami fits well with the big ten geographically and academically, but maybe not (VT and Miami would still definitely be brands the big 12 would want though).

Point being, if the schools can get around the grant of rights, the ACC is going down.
If Clemson and FSU leaving was realistic, it would've happened. It didn't, and the GOR isn't the hold up.
 
Utah state and probably UNLV to the pac8
 
I think the more likely scenario is that FSU and Clemson join the SEC, UNC and Miami join the big ten, and then a few stragglers like Louisville, VT, and Duke/NC st join the big 12. That would make the ACC a lot less appealing as a conference of the remaining teams.

What would be an interesting scenario is if some of the remaining schools then join the PAC 12 for an East/West division (minus BC of course).
UNC to the Big 10 is a no brained. They need a school that got blown out of its own building by James Madison. That’s the ticket all right.
 
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Wonder how UConn would feel about a 5 year GOR… on one hand we’d have a football home. On the other, we wouldn’t be able to put football anywhere else (like the Bug 12) if they came calling. Tough one.
The Big 12 didn't want to add us for football for 7 years. We can do a 5 year GOR in a different conference and still join the Big 12 as originally proposed.
 
Notre Dame is extremely unlikely to join the Big 10 due to things that happened as far back as the 19th century and a number of times since.

I saw a Youtube on this, but it's 30 minutes and rather nerdy... But here's an article that paraphrases the ideas from the video:

Worth a read...
They already agreed to join it 20 years ago, the President, the AD, and the Board of Trustees, but Alumni and boosters organized against it and killed it.
 
They already agreed to join it 20 years ago, the President, the AD, and the Board of Trustees, but Alumni and boosters organized against it and killed it.

The University of Notre Dame's Board of Trustees has rejected the idea of joining the Big Ten Conference, and instead decided to maintain the university's independence. The decision was made after the board considered information shared with them by the Big Ten Conference and the Committee for Institutional Cooperation (CIC).

Ultimately, football independence was too embedded into the university culture, and Notre Dame's board of trustees rejected a path to Big Ten membership. “From their perspective, they had historic, bad feelings about the Big Ten,” Delany said.Jul 13, 2023


 
The University of Notre Dame's Board of Trustees has rejected the idea of joining the Big Ten Conference, and instead decided to maintain the university's independence. The decision was made after the board considered information shared with them by the Big Ten Conference and the Committee for Institutional Cooperation (CIC).

Ultimately, football independence was too embedded into the university culture, and Notre Dame's board of trustees rejected a path to Big Ten membership. “From their perspective, they had historic, bad feelings about the Big Ten,” Delany said.Jul 13, 2023

Why are you linking the after the fact?

If the Board rejected it outright, the boosters and powerful alumni wouldn't have needed to travel to a Chalet in France to have it out with leadership.

You're missing what actually happened.

We all know Notre Dame ultimately rejected the invitation.

What I wrote is that the President, faculty, the AD and the BOT initially accepted it and were in favor of moving.
 
Of the PAC 7, 5 made The Dance in 2024 with only Oregon State and Fresno State missing. Maybe the play is to add Gonzaga and perhaps look at a few other Big East schools.
 
Of the PAC 7, 5 made The Dance in 2024 with only Oregon State and Fresno State missing. Maybe the play is to add Gonzaga and perhaps look at a few other Big East schools.
Come on man.
 
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Wait. Throught basketball doesnt matter.
Their full share will prob be around or less than UConn Bball makes Big East for the best bball team in the nation which is WAYYYYYYYY less than power football schools like Rutgers. So really over all bball doesn't matter for POWER conferences as evident by the Big12 presidents disrespecting their own commissioner.
 
Of the PAC 7, 5 made The Dance in 2024 with only Oregon State and Fresno State missing. Maybe the play is to add Gonzaga and perhaps look at a few other Big East schools.
Maybe we SHOULD look at the all sports option. I mean 5>3. Add Gonzaga and 6> 3 too.
 
Maybe we SHOULD look at the all sports option. I mean 5>3. Add Gonzaga and 6> 3 too.
Creighton is probably perfectly happy in the Big East but if a combo of Gonzaga and Creighton went PAC or a trio of Gonzaga, St. Mary's and Creighton, that would leave the Big East in a pretty bad situation. Unlikely, yes. But a big risk nevertheless. The PAC is desperate and taking Gonzaga, St, Mary's and Creighton would give it 3 more NCAA tourney teams. Those basketball schools may think being part of a football conference is a better bet long term and the Big 12 may still be in the market too.
 
I think if Pac-12 takes UConn football, that would be amazing.

That conference is about what the AAC is, probably better since osu, wsu are there.

For all sports? That's a tough sell to the basketball fan. That's a lot of west coast games, which are brutal if you live in the eastern time zone.
 
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