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Going to say this here…. Every loss is not some validation to kill the program.
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It shouldn’t by any stretch but in a strange way it does. The minute we stepped back into the BE with a bunch of 1AA catholic schools, it told the world UConn is about basketball first and damn the rest. If 5 Nattys in 25 years doesn’t do the trick it’s never doing the trick. It makes no sense. It isn’t right, but that’s the way it is. it’s a special thing we have but it’s a lot sentimental value that doesn’t bring home the bacon in revenue.
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Football was held back by bad adminstrative decisions, not basketball. Basketball was floundering and has been resuscitated by a great hire. Basketball did not recover in one year, but in a few years. (Remember, "better get us now!") Same holds for football. It is not an impossible dream. For the umpteenth time, basketball is meaningless in conference realignment. UConn basketball will thrive in any conference with the right coach, facilities, and recruits. It can happen for football with proper assistance. Is it possible that the last ship has sailed? Yes it is, but for those of you who will still be alive in a decade or so, there is some hope.
I’m sorry to tell you this but administrative decisions didn’t score 35 points against us last Saturday.
I am talking about macromanagement over the last decade plus rather than one bad game. This had been discussed ad nauseum here. Hopefully football will be respectable sooner rather than later. It is possible.
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I agree with this and in that reality uconn might still be in the AAC
Bingo. When I was a grad student I had Hathaway pegged as useless because he and they wouldn't do the small things. I spent a lot of time at the hockey rink and I know they were an after thought but I always said "one thousand dollars in paint would go a long way". It is that era 04-09 when I was there that it was clear despite football being on the move and basketball winning that they were coasting.
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Hathaway was in many ways over his head. He wasn’t a fighter and always looked for the expedient route, the one that wouldn't require him to feel his stomach churn as he tried to sell the BOD on spending more. After Edsall left, we had just played in the Fiesta Bowl. That was the moment for him to announce to the BOD that “We can’t let our program backslide. We’ve seen the Big East get poached. We’ve seen us left behind already. We need to become a more committed and successful football program. And at this moment we need to spend the money for a big time coach with a national reputation.“ But when the idea of hiring Paul Pasqualoni became one of the options—JH liked that he came cheap and was already known and liked by the Chairman of the BOD. PP made it very easy for JH to avoid the confrontation he didn’t have the stomach for.
At bottom, JH was an administrator. What he lacked was what we needed—an AD with a leadership gene. Those institutions who had AD’s with juice, somehow maneuvered and lobbied and figured it out. In the end, Pasqualoni offered Hathaway the one thing he always sought—an easy way out,
OK genius, WHAT SPECIFIC MACROMANAGEMENT DECISIONS WERE MADE OVER THE LAST DECADE that were detrimental to the football program? Remember this macromanagement not decisions made by a coach or AD, but rather the school itself, school president, BOT, and the governor, the Robert Kraft fiasco, etc. please don’t mention whipping boy Jeff Hathaway. I will say that lack of any decisions by Warde could be an issue effecting the trajectory of the football program. I also think you have to go back more than one decade, I would go back two decades to get to the bottom of why the program has not blossomed, such as the decision to go on the cheap and build a stadium on an abandoned airfield 25 miles from campus.
I believe that you answered your own question. I think you can add a clueless president with lots of hubris as well at the time of Warde and a state political machine that only glows when basketball wins championships, but abandoned everything else...and that is still to this day.
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We lost two games - one home game against a superior opponent, and one road game that one could argue we should have won - but we were dogs in the game. We have to win the games we are supposed to win and steal enough of the ones we aren't to make a season of it. We were projected to be dogs in 9 games. GaSt was a stealable one - and we didn't steal it.
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Interesting ad for Custer’s last stand on this thread. Sure feels that way.
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Let's be honest. The athletic department has never signaled it is hungry for successful football. 25 years ago the running joke was UConn searched for the best coach in the country and then hired his son. To this day, the AD acts like it doesn't want to be bothered, and simply recycles failed coaches.
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How HCRE1 was a decent middle of the road quality coach.
Pasqualone he was delivered attempt to placate Connecticut high school coaches so we could keep the kids home.
Hard to call Diaco a has been. He was more of a never was.... and an insane never was at that.
HCRE2 was always a short term move to get us back to respectability. It didn't work out.
Mora's was, in my opinion, an excellent hire with both NFL and P5 head coaching experience. How it will pan out we will see.
But I think it's unfair to say that the school does not care about football. And but as the P*conferences continue to make more money, it becomes increasingly hard to catch up.
We are in a hole and I'm not sure how to get out of it.
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Mora is not a failed coach, he’s got a pretty good resume. Dave Benedict hired a HOF coaches son too, and the son just won a NC. UConn does need to hire a good DC so Mora can keep his eyes on the road. Maybe Todd Orlando if he’s still coaching. As for the OC, cut Charlton loose at the end of the season.
Insulting comment.
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He can say that all he wants but he hired the OC and made him the assistant head coach. He brought in Fagnano and Robeson. Outside of Buckman, his receiving corps has done nothing. His tight ends have done nothing. His big back from Louisville can’t get on the field and has been passed on the depth chart by a dl. His defense got run off the field in Georgia and did not show much in the first half today.
Something happened or is happening behind the scenes. You don’t return all the players UConn has after a 6 win season and turn around and make it a 2 win season without something going on.
Something happened or is happening behind the scenes. You don’t return all the players UConn has after a 6 win season and turn around and make it a 2 win season without something going on.
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Agreed- and to that point- what the hell happened to Brewton?
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Unless last season wasn’t as good as it appeared to be.
The big wins happened at the low points of every team.
I see the same flaws this season that I saw last season.
Honestly, I would try to curry favor with the ACC. It is only a matter of time until some teams are poached and they need to add someone
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1 of the worst halves of football I have ever seen (considering the stakes, the competition, etc.). Mora's got a talent problem, a coaching problem, and a buy-in problem. He can say what he wants, but its hard to win consistently until he fixes all 3 areas.
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I think Independence is the best route forward until the ACC ultimately implodes and re-evaluate then. But I can't help but wonder if teaming up with UMass and begging the MAC to be football only members is the best course for UConn currently.
The problem is the MAC would obviously know we’re using it as a springboard. They don’t want our garbage program for 4 years before we try and leave for another conference. Also those teams would all smack us right now lol.
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There are obviously some pretty upset people here, me included.
But not every game is referendum on the program. It just doesn't work like that.
Demand better from the coaches and the school. Demand that bad coaches get removed and replaced. Demand that we do something about getting into some conference, any conference as a football only. But acting like a win or loss is going to secure our fate is utterly stupid. It just doesn't work like that.
Guess what? EVERY PROGRAM IN AMERICA has preseason hype. And most programs don't live up to it. Deal with it.
So we lost to Georgia State and FIU. Guess what? Even if we won they would just be wins against middling programs like us.
I think we have a head coach that has a bunch of desire and wants to be successful again here.
This place isn't exactly the garden spot of football. We won't pull anyone like him anytime soon. And he also probably pulls in better coaches than we would get with anyone else.
It totally sucks that we have now lost 2 of our winnable games. That bowl game doesn't really look like it is going to happen.
But not every game is referendum on the program. It just doesn't work like that.
Demand better from the coaches and the school. Demand that bad coaches get removed and replaced. Demand that we do something about getting into some conference, any conference as a football only. But acting like a win or loss is going to secure our fate is utterly stupid. It just doesn't work like that.
Guess what? EVERY PROGRAM IN AMERICA has preseason hype. And most programs don't live up to it. Deal with it.
So we lost to Georgia State and FIU. Guess what? Even if we won they would just be wins against middling programs like us.
I think we have a head coach that has a bunch of desire and wants to be successful again here.
This place isn't exactly the garden spot of football. We won't pull anyone like him anytime soon. And he also probably pulls in better coaches than we would get with anyone else.
It totally sucks that we have now lost 2 of our winnable games. That bowl game doesn't really look like it is going to happen.
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Not being in a conference is a major burden. Year in, year out, our schedule is a total grab bag. It helps to play opponents annually. That familiarity levels the playing field greatly.
If we are being honest… the MAC is probably the best conference for us.. but I’m not sure they would even want us… I’m not sure what our football value is
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Our value is pretty low. College Football is an old sport. And at the top level we are still extremely young. The program needs to be seasoned a bit. A good long spell somewhere might do us some good.
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