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Going to say this here…. Every loss is not some validation to kill the program.

Beachview said:
If we are being honest… the MAC is probably the best conference for us.. but I’m not sure they would even want us… I’m not sure what our football value is
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We would make their football schedule worse lol
 
ZooCougar said:
Our value is pretty low. College Football is an old sport. And at the top level we are still extremely young. The program needs to be seasoned a bit. A good long spell somewhere might do us some good.
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The MAC would take us and UMass football only yesterday. We are not interested.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
conference affiliation is not life and death in NIL and Transfer Portal era. Plenty of G5 schools are beating P5 schools. UConn’s problems are because of UConn, nothing else.
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Not to mention, having to play all of their home games at what is essentially a neutral site. What do you think Geno and Calhoun would have said years ago if they were told that the HCC would be their home court for ALL home games? I don’t think people realize the advantages an on campus stadium (basketball or football) gives a program. Recruiting, intimidation to visiting teams, the student body can just walk to the games, and many more reasons. The sad thing is, if the Rent had had been built on campus, UConn would have received a P5 invite 15-20 years ago. There’s no telling what RE 1.0 could have done under those circumstances.
 
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shizzle787 said:
Because we weren't interested.
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Where are you getting this information that the MAC would take us for football only? I call BS.

The only conference that would touch our football program with a ten foot pole was CUSA, and that was about two years ago and they were DESPERATE. That may not be the case anymore.
 
ZooCougar said:
Where are you getting this information that the MAC would take us for football only? I call BS.

The only conference that would touch our football program with a ten foot pole was CUSA, and that was about two years ago and they were DESPERATE. That may not be the case anymore.
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Benedict has hinted at it. Also, CUSA and the MAC would both love to have one of the best public universities in the northeast in their league even if in a weakened state for football-only. The MAC has already had Temple and UMass for football-only in the past. UMass was given the boot because Temple left leaving the league with an odd number of teams. It wasn't due to their poor performance.

Also, I don't want to give a single basketball game to the MAC. It does nothing for the program.
 
shizzle787 said:
Benedict has hinted at it. Also, CUSA and the MAC would both love to have one of the best public universities in the northeast in their league even if in a weakened state for football-only. The MAC has already had Temple and UMass for football-only in the past. UMass was given the boot because Temple left leaving the league with an odd number of teams. It wasn't due to their poor performance.

Also, I don't want to give a single basketball game to the MAC. It does nothing for the program.
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Hinted at it? You’re making things up.

Go back to the realignment board and invent some crappy conferences for us to join.
 
ZooCougar said:
Hinted at it? You’re making things up.

Go back to the realignment board and invent some crappy conferences for us to join.
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Actually, I'm not. There are various UMass people who have stated that we killed it for them.
 
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ZooCougar said:
So credible. You’re completely full of it.
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Not at all. Every single MAC school would schedule us H/H if we asked them. That is your barometer right there.
 
shizzle787 said:
Not at all. Every single MAC school would schedule us H/H if we asked them. That is your barometer right there.
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They do not want us for football only. They don’t want any football onlies.

The MAC is very comfortable with what they have.
 
ZooCougar said:
They do not want us for football only. They don’t want any football onlies.

The MAC is very comfortable with what they have.
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If they were comfortable, they wouldn't have been sniffing WKU and MTSU two years ago. The issue isn't with football-onlies, it is with an odd number of schools for Olympic sports and football. WKU still wants to join the MAC but they can't due to no school joining that would give the league an even number of BOTH football and Olympic sports members, and WKU can't go football-only with UMass as they have no place to park their Olympic sports.

Also, history: the MAC has literally had multiple football-only members before. If Temple hadn't left for the American, both them and UMass would be football-only in the MAC right now.
 
shizzle787 said:
If they were comfortable, they wouldn't have been sniffing WKU and MTSU two years ago. The issue isn't with football-onlies, it is with an odd number of schools for Olympic sports and football. WKU still wants to join the MAC but they can't due to no school joining that would give the league an even number of BOTH football and Olympic sports members, and WKU can't go football-only with UMass as they have no place to park their Olympic sports.

Also, history: the MAC has literally had multiple football-only members before. If Temple hadn't left for the American, both them and UMass would be football-only in the MAC right now.
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WKU and MTSU are more attractive than us fit football.

And now that they added them they definitely don’t want us.
 
shizzle787 said:
If they were comfortable, they wouldn't have been sniffing WKU and MTSU two years ago. The issue isn't with football-onlies, it is with an odd number of schools for Olympic sports and football. WKU still wants to join the MAC but they can't due to no school joining that would give the league an even number of BOTH football and Olympic sports members, and WKU can't go football-only with UMass as they have no place to park their Olympic sports.

Also, history: the MAC has literally had multiple football-only members before. If Temple hadn't left for the American, both them and UMass would be football-only in the MAC right now.
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Also, history: They had football onlies before and don’t want to live that dream again.
 
ZooCougar said:
WKU and MTSU are more attractive than us fit football.

And now that they added them they definitely don’t want us.
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LOL. WKU and MTSU are not more attractive than us in football. The MAC wanted them to get into the Nashville market. Full stop.
 
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shizzle787 said:
LOL. WKU and MTSU are not more attractive than us in football. The MAC wanted them to get into the Nashville market. Full stop.
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I guess they wanted that more than they wanted us.

Our football has no appeal. You guys are detached from reality.
 
The MAC would be appealing..the league is somewhat close… playing in a league with teams we can compete with… bowl games…a path to the playoffs… but the money would be awful….I don’t think any of us would truly know if the MAC would be interested in us or if we would be interested in them unless we did join
 
We need to stop blaming conference affilation as one of main cause of our issues. There is absolutely no excuse losing to schools like FIU and Georgia State in the manners we did. This is on our coaching and recruiting. It is an internal UConn issue, and we just need to fix it.
 
shizzle787 said:
Benedict has hinted at it. Also, CUSA and the MAC would both love to have one of the best public universities in the northeast in their league even if in a weakened state for football-only. The MAC has already had Temple and UMass for football-only in the past. UMass was given the boot because Temple left leaving the league with an odd number of teams. It wasn't due to their poor performance.

Also, I don't want to give a single basketball game to the MAC. It does nothing for the program.
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Football only in the MAC would be a gigantic mistake on many fronts.
 
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I’m not advocating for joining the MAC for football only as we’ve no real history with them. From a regional perspective though, having some scheduling agreement with them (along with games against ACC, MW, and other conferences), isn’t terrible. They’re not flashy or big draws, but neither are we, and we need games that we reasonably have a shot of winning. Right now, several of those teams would beat UConn.
 
KryHavok said:
I’m not advocating for joining the MAC for football only as we’ve no real history with them. From a regional perspective though, having some scheduling agreement with them (along with games against ACC, MW, and other conferences), isn’t terrible. They’re not flashy or big draws, but neither are we, and we need games that we reasonably have a shot of winning. Right now, several of those teams would beat UConn.
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I hate the move from the "we are better than this and we won't settle for this" perspective but on the other hand are we better than that? Also it's nice to have a ladder to climb and as an independent there really isn't one
 
I agree with a lot of these comments. The MAC doesn’t really make sense and also they don’t want us. But beyond that - conferences do give teams something to play for. There’s a reason they exist in almost every major team sport. They provide scheduling consistency, rivalries, bowl tie ins, and a metric to measure oursleves against YOY. I don’t know the answer but being independent just has so many negatives.
 
Patman said:
I hate the move from the "we are better than this and we won't settle for this" perspective but on the other hand are we better than that? Also it's nice to have a ladder to climb and as an independent there really isn't one
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BYU was an independent all those years.
 
CONN78SEJ said:
Football only in the MAC would be a gigantic mistake on many fronts.
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We won’t have anyone to play soon. Time to park the program in a FB only conference.
 
shizzle787 said:
If they were comfortable, they wouldn't have been sniffing WKU and MTSU two years ago. The issue isn't with football-onlies, it is with an odd number of schools for Olympic sports and football. WKU still wants to join the MAC but they can't due to no school joining that would give the league an even number of BOTH football and Olympic sports members, and WKU can't go football-only with UMass as they have no place to park their Olympic sports.

Also, history: the MAC has literally had multiple football-only members before. If Temple hadn't left for the American, both them and UMass would be football-only in the MAC right now.
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I recall UMass being given the ultimatum to join in all sports in the MAC or ELSE. They chose Independence.
Are you saying if Temple had stayed the MAC would not have demanded it from both?
 
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