Godfrey commits to Memphis

[CallMeBruce]

Cal/Memphis admissions sent Derrick's info through the NCAA clearing house twice, and both times they cleared him. If I had an amazing 5-star player, and the NCAA told me he was cleared to play...well, I would play him too.

AFTER the season was over...the ETS said they could not prove, nor disprove, that Rose took his SAT...so the NCAA ruled him "retroactively ineligible"

I would have made the same decisions Cal made in that situation.

If Memphis didn't have suspicions about Rose's eligibility, then why did they send his info twice?

 

[Jerry1714]

I can tell you that Duke and UConn don't have different admissions standards for basketball players, you and many others have clearly bought into this Duke nonsense.

You keep saying it without a shred of evidence. Unless, you have sources as good as Chief, which in that case, sorry, will not question it again.............

 

[UofMemphis]

If Memphis didn't have suspicions about Rose's eligibility, then why did they send his info twice?

His grades were very close...Memphis wanted it's 't's crossed' and 'i's dotted'

Then the NCAA simply changed it's mind after the season.

Memphis has always been willing to take a chance on kids...look at Mike Dixon and Geron Johnson under Pastner.

 

[boog204]

Agreed. UCONN definitely needs to combat all stigmas concerning their academic reputation in order to make it out of conference realignment purgatory, and this is a step in the right direction. As hilarious as Johnnie Selvie was, bringing in him and other bad news kids like him caused the program more harm off the court than good on the court. Also, I'm a fan of Ollie using the graduate transfer strategy on "character guys" who are proven scholars and leaders. Having guys like Evans and Kromah in the locker room did a heck of a lot for the teams they were on, and no way would Godfrey have been able to provide that same presence.

Didn't read the whole thread, but what exactly did Selvie do wrong? He was a Juco, but how are you pinning our crappy academic performance solely on him? There are many guys who shat on our APR. Leave Johnnie Time out of this!

 

[David 76]

So has Ollie taken over as coach because you better believe this kid would have been a Husky if Calhoun was still the coach.

WTF? Is this a shot at Ollie? If you are still not sure, Ollie took over 2 years ago. He won a ship. He strongly emphasizes character in a player. He did not fight for this kid after he was seen as not a candidate. I think a remember a little problem with the last guy JC pushed in.

 

[Jerry1714]

WTF? Is this a shot at Ollie? If you are still not sure, Ollie took over 2 years ago. He won a ship. He strongly emphasizes character in a player. He did not fight for this kid after he was seen as not a candidate. I think a remember a little problem with the last guy JC pushed in.

It was actually a shot at Calhoun, not Ollie (at least I think this is clearly what he is saying).

Simmer down

 

[David 76]

I'm not sure, But neither of them deserve a slap.

 

[TigerJ]

We strengthen our frontcourt and that is all the matters. Really don't care about this whole academic debate.

 

[Inyatkin]

We strengthen our frontcourt and that is all the matters. Really don't care about this whole academic debate.

Nobody really does. We watch basketball, not study hall.

 

[DonaldDraper]

Nobody really does. We watch basketball, not study hall.

+1

While fans appreciate good classroom performance, who really cares? People love to stoke the "we are better than they are" flames by saying that they got a player we wouldn't take. So long as the NCAA doesn't ban us, who truly cares about classroom performance?

UofMemphis has been nothing but cordial on this board and people were baiting him pretty hard. I'm really surprised he didn't just post this link and get on with his day: http://www.businessinsider.com/uconn-star-kemba-walker-has-read-one-book-in-his-entire-life-2011-4

 

[kibblesnbits]

Not sure if this post is a joke or not?

Our admissions standards are much lower then Duke's, for both athletes and non-athletes, and it is not a debate.

Duke has a 13%, UConn is 44%. So lets put this nonsense to bed.

Quoting overall admission rates tells us nothing about admissions standards for athletes. A friend of mine used to teach at Duke and he said admissions would bend tremendously for basketball players. He had multiple players in his classes that would not have gotten onto the Duke campus without a tour pass if they weren't capable of scoring more than 10 ppg. I'm sure UConn gives significant leeway to athletes as well, but there's been no evidence provided that it is more or less than other universities engaged in big time athletics.

 

[David 76]

You watch college basketball. And sometimes you don't because people didn't pay attention.

 

[Stainmaster]

Didn't read the whole thread, but what exactly did Selvie do wrong? He was a Juco, but how are you pinning our crappy academic performance solely on him? There are many guys who shat on our APR. Leave Johnnie Time out of this!

Perhaps I misrepresented myself -- I enjoyed Selvie very much as a player. I was referring to the legal trouble, which admittedly did come after his playing career was over. One JUCO doesn't throw the team's academic reputation; in fact, I have no idea what Selvie's grades looked like. But someone severely lacking in common sense and with a tendency to misbehave is not somebody I would go out of my way to put on the team, especially seeing as upperclassmen are looked to be leaders on the team. Where Godfrey relates to this -- look, I'm not dumb, I know most college kids enjoy pot, but if you don't have the wherewithal to keep yourself out of trouble for it, I don't think that sets the right example. KO seems to be huge on building a high-character team, and I don't know if Godfrey fits his mold as that type of player.

That being said, I could be completely off the mark. Godfrey may have cleaned up his act and become the most upstanding citizen out there, and I'm just some jerk on the internet.

 

[caw]

It's not a half truth at all...if your standards are higher than the NCAAs, that's on you. We meet the guidelines laid out by the NCAA as that's all we're required to do.

You just don't get it, you said the NCAA sets the standard and not Memphis. That is blatantly untrue, I was being nice by saying it was a half-truth. The NCAA sets a minimum, Memphis then sets it's standard at or above that minimum. The part I was saying was a half-truth was that Memphis had no say in setting it's standards, it has complete control. Memphis chooses the minimum and is the entity solely in control of setting that as the standard. The NCAA doesn't tell Memphis to set it's standards so low, only that it can.

The NCAA does not set standards only minimums, they are inherently different things even though sometimes they overlap. Do you get my point now?

 

[Gurleyman]

You keep saying it without a shred of evidence. Unless, you have sources as good as Chief, which in that case, sorry, will not question it again...

The best example was Sean Dockery. His high school info was leaked and he got into Duke with something like a 2.2 high school GPA and a 15 on his ACT. Barely qualified to be able to play.

 

[Gringo]

You just don't get it, you said the NCAA sets the standard and not Memphis. That is blatantly untrue, I was being nice by saying it was a half-truth. The NCAA sets a minimum, Memphis then sets it's standard at or above that minimum. The part I was saying was a half-truth was that Memphis had no say in setting it's standards, it has complete control. Memphis chooses the minimum and is the entity solely in control of setting that as the standard. The NCAA doesn't tell Memphis to set it's standards so low, only that it can.

The NCAA does not set standards only minimums, they are inherently different things even though sometimes they overlap. Do you get my point now?

So your saying each conference should standardize their standardization standards?

 

[David 76]

No, but there are bottom feeders

 

[DogMania]

We strengthen our frontcourt and that is all the matters. Really don't care about this whole academic debate.

Hopefully he works hard on the court and in the classroom. If he doesn't do what is needed with the books that could hurt Memphis down the road.

 

[mauconnfan]

Hopefully he works hard on the court and in the classroom. If he doesn't do what is needed with the books that could hurt Memphis down the road.

Oh well……that is not on Mr Godfrey anymore it's on the school who takes the chance. I agree we don't want one of our leagues best programs getting busted but they're running on that fence as we speak!

 

[caw]

So your saying each conference should standardize their standardization standards?

No, I couldnt care less if Memphis chooses to wear the dunce cap. I'm just pointing out its inaccurate to say they (Memphis) are not in charge of setting their standards and it's the NCAA that sets it.

 

[UofMemphis]

You just don't get it, you said the NCAA sets the standard and not Memphis. That is blatantly untrue, I was being nice by saying it was a half-truth. The NCAA sets a minimum, Memphis then sets it's standard at or above that minimum. The part I was saying was a half-truth was that Memphis had no say in setting it's standards, it has complete control. Memphis chooses the minimum and is the entity solely in control of setting that as the standard. The NCAA doesn't tell Memphis to set it's standards so low, only that it can.

The NCAA does not set standards only minimums, they are inherently different things even though sometimes they overlap. Do you get my point now?

So you're all up in arms because I said "the NCAA sets the standards"

Instead of "the NCAA sets the minimum standards"

Clearly this is something I understood, because I went on to say: "if your standards are higher than the NCAAs, that's on you. We meet the guidelines laid out by the NCAA as that's all we're required to do"

Talk about arguing over minutiae, you must be a lawyer.

I could just as easily say: Memphis didn't tell the NCAA to set it's standards so low, only they could do that.

 

[UofMemphis]

Hopefully he works hard on the court and in the classroom. If he doesn't do what is needed with the books that could hurt Memphis down the road.

Folks said the same things about Geron Johnson and Mike Dixon...they both graduated from Memphis.

 

[TigerJ]

Lulz

 

[caw]

So you're all up in arms because I said "the NCAA sets the standards"

Instead of "the NCAA sets the minimum standards"

Clearly this is something I understood, because I went on to say: "if your standards are higher than the NCAAs, that's on you. We meet the guidelines laid out by the NCAA as that's all we're required to do"

Talk about arguing over minutiae, you must be a lawyer.

I could just as easily say: Memphis didn't tell the NCAA to set it's standards so low, only they could do that.

You are the one that jumped on one sentence of what I wrote to "coreect" me, when you clearly had no clue what I was saying.

Clearly you didn't get it and from the looks of it, still don't judging from the silliness of you last sentence, but that's OK.

If I'm frustrated at anything, it's having to explain things to a simpleton.

 

[Jerry1714]

Quoting overall admission rates tells us nothing about admissions standards for athletes. A friend of mine used to teach at Duke and he said admissions would bend tremendously for basketball players. He had multiple players in his classes that would not have gotten onto the Duke campus without a tour pass if they weren't capable of scoring more than 10 ppg. I'm sure UConn gives significant leeway to athletes as well, but there's been no evidence provided that it is more or less than other universities engaged in big time athletics.

I was referencing the admission rates to shoot down the absurd notion of the poster I was replying to who said UConn was harder to get into then Duke for non athletes.

Obviously they mean nothing for athletes.