Girls McDonald's Game

[IWearShoes]

24, that makes it worse. Like you, I did not hear much from the talking heads who was coming in and who went out.

It seems to me that the focus in announcing an all star game should be on constantly relating who is in the game. It is a game that is all about individual players rather than teams and that's what people are watching.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

I'was going to say it because no one else had. Haley did not play well today. As far as her being number 1 she did win the Wootten POY award.
Stanford recruit Haley Jones named Morgan Wootten Player of the Year

Not saying she isn't good. I just am not clear how she's #1 from this event and the FIBA Worlds.

With the right coaching Jordan Horston is going to be a 4 year PROBLEM for WCBB. She can dominate the game with sheer athleticism defensively and in transition. She can dominate the game as the primary ball handler (PG) & passer -pick and roll, pick and pop floater.... She can dominate the game playing off the ball because you have to honor every cut she makes to the basket and it is impossible to keep her off the offensive board. She took over the game tonight and didn't even break a sweat doing it. She has a flair to her game that going to keep fans on the edge of their seats.

I feel like the two highest upside players are committed to Tennessee and Miss State, sad to say, but I like South Carolina's very much.

Maybe a triumvirate at the top for a while, which will be a little more interesting and fun.

I'm keeping an eye on Arkansas to see where they go.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

It seems to me that the focus in announcing an all star game should be on constantly relating who is in the game. It is a game that is all about individual players rather than teams and that's what people are watching.

Yes, that would have been helpful.

Flashing a roster up at the beginning of the game doesn't really accomplish much.

Unless I had a reason to know who a reserve was it tended to be a mystery.

 

[SimpleDawg]

Not saying she isn't good. I just am not clear how she's #1 from this event and the FIBA Worlds.



I feel like the two highest upside players are committed to Tennessee and Miss State, sad to say, but I like South Carolina's very much.

Maybe a triumvirate at the top for a while, which will be a little more interesting and fun.

I'm keeping an eye on Arkansas to see where they go.

I think Arkansas will see a huge jump in the next 2 or 3 years. Dungee could get some help around her, and maybe add a few more "tougher" players that can play defense, and they're suddenly not a pushover anymore. Texas A&M is another team I think will be better next year. And if Tennessee gets Walz, they'll probably start to put South Carolina and Mississippi State on high alert.

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[TheFarmFan]

Yeah, in retrospect I think part of why the game this year wasn't great is that the point guards for both teams, to be honest, really weren't great at their jobs of distributing the ball, nor were they great at attacking the basket on their own. Cooke was the best, and not surprisingly led the game in assists. She was the only PG I was impressed by. The West team's weren't great, TBH, and Belibi of all players led the West team in assists, which should tell you everything you need to know, because she was pretty much always camped near the low post, and she is not known as a ball distributor.

I think for these games the players who stand out are the ones who can generate offense on their own - namely, this year, Horston, Peoples, Puisis, and to some degree Belibi and Jackson. If Jones usually ran the point in high school but served as a wing for this game, I can see why we didn't see her at her best, because most of her shots were from the wing off a pass - not really the best way to see how a "positionless" player plays. But more than anything, I felt like she just seemed a little slow and out of sync, and not playing with much confidence, so I suspect we didn't see what she's generally capable of, for whatever reason.

That's also why the post players seemed to disappear in this game - they don't get the ball all that much because neither team is really running a thoughtful offense that maximizes getting the ball inside. The quality of these games tends to rise or fall on the PGs, and this year's were not especially impressive compared to years past. Cooke + Sue Phillips as coach at least had a semblance of an offensive strategy, and the East was much better at maximizing fast breaks for quick points. I honestly have no idea what the West coach's offensive strategy was.

ETA: I just checked HoopGurlz, and sure enough, only one PG in the top ten who played - Cooke, who's #2 PG and #7 overall. Owusu, #1 PG/#5 overall, must have sat the game out? I didn't see her. Owens is #3 PG/#14 overall, and she was not amazing, and neither was Osborne at #5 PG/#22 overall. Peoples is listed as the #4 PG/#21 overall, though she seemed to play this game more as a SG than PG. She was probably the player I was most impressed with on the West team in terms of polished, all-around game. I don't know how she is as low as #21 overall - I'd have pegged her and Puisis as top ten recruits, easily. And Belibi at #23 is a joke, but it's clear she's such a late bloomer that her growth has probably been substantial since she was last rated in the fall.

 

[oldude]

Yeah, in retrospect I think part of why the game this year wasn't great is that the point guards for both teams, to be honest, really weren't great at their jobs of distributing the ball. Cooke was the best, and not surprisingly led the game in assists. She was the only PG I was impressed by. The West team's weren't great, TBH, and Belibi of all players led the West team in assists, which should tell you everything you need to know, because she was pretty much always camped near the low post, and she is not known as a ball distributor.

I think for these games the players who stand out are the ones who can generate offense on their own - namely, this year, Horston, People, Puisis, and to some degree Belibi. If Jones usually ran the point in high school but served as a wing for this game, I can see why we didn't see her at her best, because most of her shots were from the wing off a pass - not really the best way to see how a "positionless" player plays. But more than anything, I felt like she just seemed a little slow and out of sync, and not playing with much confidence, so I suspect we didn't see what she's generally capable of, for whatever reason.

While I agree with your assessment, I would add that I’ve been watching these McD AA games for a number of years now and I have to say that yesterday’s game was very much like past games; sloppy, a lot of one-on-one offense and not much defense.

 

[CBus13]

I think Arkansas will see a huge jump in the next 2 or 3 years. Dungee could get some help around her, and maybe add a few more "tougher" players that can play defense, and they're suddenly not a pushover anymore. Texas A&M is another team I think will be better next year. And if Tennessee gets Walz, they'll probably start to put South Carolina and Mississippi State on high alert.

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I believe next year they will have Amber Ramirez, former McDonald's All-American and TCU guard. I don't know she did during her TCU career, never saw them play, but she was a flashy guard. She's tough too. I don't know about defense. Averages 9.6 points over two seasons.

 

[meyers7]

Yeah, in retrospect I think part of why the game this year wasn't great is that the point guards for both teams, to be honest, really weren't great at their jobs of distributing the ball, nor were they great at attacking the basket on their own. Cooke was the best, and not surprisingly led the game in assists. She was the only PG I was impressed by. The West team's weren't great, TBH, and Belibi of all players led the West team in assists, which should tell you everything you need to know, because she was pretty much always camped near the low post, and she is not known as a ball distributor.

I think for these games the players who stand out are the ones who can generate offense on their own - namely, this year, Horston, Peoples, Puisis, and to some degree Belibi and Jackson. If Jones usually ran the point in high school but served as a wing for this game, I can see why we didn't see her at her best, because most of her shots were from the wing off a pass - not really the best way to see how a "positionless" player plays. But more than anything, I felt like she just seemed a little slow and out of sync, and not playing with much confidence, so I suspect we didn't see what she's generally capable of, for whatever reason.

That's also why the post players seemed to disappear in this game - they don't get the ball all that much because neither team is really running a thoughtful offense that maximizes getting the ball inside. The quality of these games tends to rise or fall on the PGs, and this year's were not especially impressive compared to years past. Cooke + Sue Phillips as coach at least had a semblance of an offensive strategy, and the East was much better at maximizing fast breaks for quick points. I honestly have no idea what the West coach's offensive strategy was.

ETA: I just checked HoopGurlz, and sure enough, only one PG in the top ten who played - Cooke, who's #2 PG and #7 overall. Owusu, #1 PG/#5 overall, must have sat the game out? I didn't see her. Owens is #3 PG/#14 overall, and she was not amazing, and neither was Osborne at #5 PG/#22 overall. Peoples is listed as the #4 PG/#21 overall, though she seemed to play this game more as a SG than PG. She was probably the player I was most impressed with on the West team in terms of polished, all-around game. I don't know how she is as low as #21 overall - I'd have pegged her and Puisis as top ten recruits, easily. And Belibi at #23 is a joke, but it's clear she's such a late bloomer that her growth has probably been substantial since she was last rated in the fall.

Next year's McD's game should be a lot of fun with Bueckers, Van Lith, Clark and Andrews all with PG abilities.

 

[SCspur]

I believe next year they will have Amber Ramirez, former McDonald's All-American and TCU guard. I don't know she did during her TCU career, never saw them play, but she was a flashy guard. She's tough too. I don't know about defense. Averages 9.6 points over two seasons.

She could potentially be better than monk for the hogs. Not as fast but definitely the better shooter. She and Dungee will make quite the duo for Neighbors.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Yeah, in retrospect I think part of why the game this year wasn't great is that the point guards for both teams, to be honest, really weren't great at their jobs of distributing the ball, nor were they great at attacking the basket on their own. Cooke was the best, and not surprisingly led the game in assists. She was the only PG I was impressed by. The West team's weren't great, TBH, and Belibi of all players led the West team in assists, which should tell you everything you need to know, because she was pretty much always camped near the low post, and she is not known as a ball distributor.

I think for these games the players who stand out are the ones who can generate offense on their own - namely, this year, Horston, Peoples, Puisis, and to some degree Belibi and Jackson. If Jones usually ran the point in high school but served as a wing for this game, I can see why we didn't see her at her best, because most of her shots were from the wing off a pass - not really the best way to see how a "positionless" player plays. But more than anything, I felt like she just seemed a little slow and out of sync, and not playing with much confidence, so I suspect we didn't see what she's generally capable of, for whatever reason.

That's also why the post players seemed to disappear in this game - they don't get the ball all that much because neither team is really running a thoughtful offense that maximizes getting the ball inside. The quality of these games tends to rise or fall on the PGs, and this year's were not especially impressive compared to years past. Cooke + Sue Phillips as coach at least had a semblance of an offensive strategy, and the East was much better at maximizing fast breaks for quick points. I honestly have no idea what the West coach's offensive strategy was.

ETA: I just checked HoopGurlz, and sure enough, only one PG in the top ten who played - Cooke, who's #2 PG and #7 overall. Owusu, #1 PG/#5 overall, must have sat the game out? I didn't see her. Owens is #3 PG/#14 overall, and she was not amazing, and neither was Osborne at #5 PG/#22 overall. Peoples is listed as the #4 PG/#21 overall, though she seemed to play this game more as a SG than PG. She was probably the player I was most impressed with on the West team in terms of polished, all-around game. I don't know how she is as low as #21 overall - I'd have pegged her and Puisis as top ten recruits, easily. And Belibi at #23 is a joke, but it's clear she's such a late bloomer that her growth has probably been substantial since she was last rated in the fall.

Belibi has played hoops only 4 years. She's an athletic freak, but still raw. I think the rating reflects that. She'll make dunks and miss layups. I understand that Geno was intrigued but passed, possibly because she was raw or possibly because she was a Stanford lean.

 

[TerpWomenFan]

I thought the 2015 McDonalds game with Asia Durrs was really entertaining. The 2016 game wasn't too bad either with Destiny Slocum. The last three were sort of duds.

 

[Reypl21]

I thought the 2015 McDonalds game with Asia Durrs was really entertaining. The 2016 game wasn't too bad either with Destiny Slocum. The last three were sort of duds.

The 2015 game was a lot of fun. I remember Durr, Ogunbowale, Mabrey, and Watts going off. The 2014 game came down to a go-ahead basket. I agree with you on the last three being pretty tame. Good thing they are just all-star games though

 

[MilfordHusky]

The Jordan Brand game 2 years ago featured Kiana Williams, Chasity Patterson, Anastasia Hayes, Chennedy Carter, and Dana Evans. It was full of speedy PGs.

 

[Dillon77]

I'm not certain Geno was looking. When she first came on the scene there was an article that stated that both ND and UCONN had "major" interest in Sammie. Things just kind of fizzled after that seemingly for both UCONN and ND. @Dillon77 thoughts?

I don't remember anything specific re Puisis and her recruitment. She verballed to FSU in September of '17, so about 14 months before the early signing period.

I just looked up an article on her commitment. ND atnd UConn are said to have had interest but are not listed among her offers. It seems like maybe she wanted to commit early and she wasn't willing to wait and see if she would get an ND or UConn offer?

At any rate, she shot very well both in this game and in the 3-point contest. Seems like a very good get for Semrau. Florida State was really young this year. They bring everybody back and add these two. Future is looking good for the Seminoles.

Hey 'yarders. Sorry for the delay (between being in a very long jury selection process and family birthdays, free time is hard to come by! ). So, time to take advantage of this lunch break.

I do remember Sammie Puisis and there was talk about some degree of mutual interest, with ND coaches spotted in southern Ohio watching high school and/or AAU games. And Sammie did come to see an ND women's hoops game unofficially in March 2017. Of course, looking back in retrospect: the ND coaching staff may very well have been looking at Sammie P.'s high school competitor, AAU teammate and (now) buddy, one Abby Prohaska (now an ND frosh). And that game Sammie came to see? It was ND vs.....Florida State. So there may have been a misinterpretation by the Bench (ahem, me.).

In any case, as she explained upon committing, Sammie's older sister plays volleyball for Florida Gulf State and I think other family is in the Sunshine State.

In any case, in the Mickey D game, at one point Sammie P. and Sam B. were spread out and wide open on either side of the three point line and I was wondering who would get the pass to unleash a three. Neither...Cooke drove to the basket!

Back to the courtroom!

 

[OneTrickPony]

Aubrey looked good, especially on defense. Wish we could’ve seen more.

Jordan Horstan stole the show...graceful and athletic...

 

[SCspur]

Hey 'yarders. Sorry for the delay (between being in a very long jury selection process and family birthdays, free time is hard to come by! ). So, time to take advantage of this lunch break.

I do remember Puisis and there was talk about some degree of mutual interest with ND coaches spotted in southern Ohio watching high school and/or AAU games. And Sam did come to see a game unofficially in March 2017. Of course, looking back in retrospect: the ND coaching staff may very well have been looking at Sammie P.'s high school competitor, AAU teammate and (now) buddy, one Abby Prohaska. And that game Sammie came to see? It was ND vs.....Florida State. So there may have been a misinterpretation by the Bench (ahem, me.).

In any case, as she explained upon committing, her sister plays volleyball for Florida Gulf State and I think other family is in the Sunshine State.

In any case, at one point Sammie P. and Sam B. were spread out on either side of the three point line and I was wondering who would get the pass. Neither...Cook drove to the basket!

Back to the courtroom!

*COOKE !!!

 

[Dillon77]

*COOKE !!!

My apologies for the misspelling: duly corrected. Not deliberate I assure you (but not sure it merited three of your exclamation points ) I'll be very interested to see how Dawn meshes all her returning starters and this incoming class.

 

[nwhoopfan]

One thing that jumped out at me, haven't seen it mentioned. There's been talk of Kennedy Brown wanting to play the 3 and Oregon St. maybe giving her the opportunity to do it. It was a limited sample size, but for some reason she was guarding Puisis during the 3rd quarter. Well, trying to guard her, not successfully. Kept losing her for open 3's or drives. Brown looked fairly coordinated and fluid for 6-6, but can't see her guarding on the perimeter at this point.

 

[Dillon77]

Aubrey looked good, especially on defense. Wish we could’ve seen more.

I think you'll see a lot more of her within a year

 

[SCspur]

My apologies for the misspelling: duly corrected. Not deliberate I assure you (but not sure it merited three of your exclamation points ) I'll be very interested to see how Dawn meshes all her returning starters and this incoming class.

The extra exclamation points were due to finger slippage