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It is always hard when someone leaves because you love depth when there are injuries, etc. - especially at the point. But I would be shocked if he is back based on how the season has evolved. If he wants to keep playing in college, he is a grad and can play immediately elsewhere next year. I can see him on a good mid major team and really contributing over him getting a spot 15 mins off the bench.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Cole is the primary PG next year, and Gaffney has been starting for this team for weeks. Not sure what the hell you are talking about.
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Gaffney is an intriguing player to me, he feels like the guy on the roster whose most likely to make the biggest leap improvement wise into next season. I like his poise and the style in which he plays, he’s just not quite there yet. You heard Seth Greenberg hit on it last night, talking about how certain plays (missed layup in traffic) are the next parts of his game and how he is almost a game manager out there, a bit timid. I think JG is gonna make a big jump into next season. He is going to fill out his body a bit more, tighten his handle, improve his jump shot etc, he’s going to be a really productive player. He to me is the guy where it’s gonna click and he’s going to be ready to produce at a higher level next season. Bouk obviously will as well, but I can’t help but feel like JG is going to be the guy who will most benefit from having a full offseason to train. You see the glimpses and it’s going to come together next season. All that being said, idk what AG will want to do, but he may look at being a back up guard to JG and RJ Cole and decide to move on.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Looked like a PG once someone was able to catch his lightning quick passes. He suffered for the talent around him more than anybody on this team. His defense was huge today and he shut down those easy layups Once he came in.
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Too much optimism from beating a bad team at home comfortably last night, especially given that we played our worst D of the year in the opening ten minutes. Against a better team we would have had to come back from being ten down.

Gilbert played more last night, and Gaffney less, in part becaue of Gilbert staying within himself and playing well, but far more because Gaffney was horrific defensively. If we had a ten man roster, my guess is Gaffney would have been nailed to the bench after the opening ten minutes.

He is capable of more and we'll need more consistently. We're not beating Houston with that effort. But it's nice to know that if Gaffney has an off night Gilbert seems to be broken of the habits that plagued the first half of the season.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Let Gilbert finish the season before we have a thread like this.
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This. I also wouldn't read too much into whether or not AG wants to be honored on Senior NIght. Dollars to donuts that he's been told "decide whether you want to be honored or not and then when the season's over let's sit down, I'll tell you what I see your role as next year and then it's your choice what you want to do."

Let's all remember one thing -- Gilbert has been practicing with and against Cole all season. My guess is he, Hurley and everyone on the team has a pretty good idea whether one is better than the other or they will truly be competing for minutes.
 
businesslawyer said:
He is capable of more and we'll need more consistently. We're not beating Houston with that effort. But it's nice to know that if Gaffney has an off night Gilbert seems to be broken of the habits that plagued the first half of the season.
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I just keep thinking what a nice luxury it is to have a guard of that caliber, and with that much history with this program, coming off the bench.

And then I think about our most pressing needs for next year and wonder whether we can afford that luxury.
 
sharonT said:
No room for AG next year. UConn needs a big to play along side Whaley. Better that he graduates and moves on. His is the only scholarship open without forcing someone to leave the program. Tough to force someone out a year from his degree.
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I don't know, with an appropriate stretching regime I think Alterique can be effective for us next year.
 
8893 said:
NO KETTLEBELLS!!!
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Agree. It's crazy that our guys are using them. Too much stress on the back.
 
8893 said:
I just keep thinking what a nice luxury it is to have a guard of that caliber, and with that much history with this program, coming off the bench.

And then I think about our most pressing needs for next year and wonder whether we can afford that luxury.
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He’s been playing well of late and finally starting to play within himself. I love going small as much as the next person, but one thing to remember is: we’re losing CV whose one of the best rebounding guards out there. That’s going to be tough to replace that if we stay small a lot next season. We have a large hole to fill with the absence of Akok and his ability to affect the game defensively. Not saying I want AG to leave, but one way or another, really think this team needs an impact 4 man.
 
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8893 said:
I just keep thinking what a nice luxury it is to have a guard of that caliber, and with that much history with this program, coming off the bench.

And then I think about our most pressing needs for next year and wonder whether we can afford that luxury.
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We certainly could if we knew both Polley and Akok would be back at 100%, but in Akok's case that would be really unlikely. So if you're asking me what is best for the team, if you could get a 4 who is an impact starter -- like the kid at Yale -- you would want him. Towns, yes if healthy, but you can't take any injury risk given that you already have two injury risks, and that makes him probably not going to happen. Marfo at Quinnipiac? Don't see him being good enough at our level.

But based on what we've heard, it's going to be Gilbert's decision to make, not Hurley's, and I'm fine with that. There is a long term benefit to recruiting if kids know that they're not going to be pushed out if they are keeping their noses clean and giving it their best effort.
 
I expect Al to take center court on senior day whether he returns or not since he's a senior.
 
sharonT said:
It is not just about basketball. If Gibert has graduated, and ,Hurley, in order to keep Gibert on the team, has to pull the scholarship from a player entering his senior year, then it is just not the right to do.
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Or if he had to kill a guy. That would be wrong too.
 
sharonT said:
It is not just about basketball. If Gibert has graduated, and ,Hurley, in order to keep Gibert on the team, has to pull the scholarship from a player entering his senior year, then it is just not the right to do.
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The scholarship is open for AL so other plays ship would be pulled.
 
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I'd prefer to wait before speculating, but curious to know more about Cole. If he is a shooter and can play off the ball, he can fill into CV's shoes and JG and AG handle the primary ball handling duties. That way with Bouk we remain a 3 headed dog. But I trust in Hurley and Al coming to the best mutual conclusion. Personally, as a fan, I'd like to see him back. Just pleased that he's still fighting and got through the bumps to contribute in a limited role.
 
Alterique may not be the only guy graduating. Other players have enough credits after three years to graduate.

If Alterique comes back, he'll be the 3rd point guard and 3rd shooting guard. Not sure that's a role that makes sense for him. Grad transfer to a place where he can start, or earning money overseas, are good options.
 
Jay-Bone said:
I'd prefer to wait before speculating, but curious to know more about Cole. If he is a shooter and can play off the ball, he can fill into CV's shoes and JG and AG handle the primary ball handling duties. That way with Bouk we remain a 3 headed dog. But I trust in Hurley and Al coming to the best mutual conclusion. Personally, as a fan, I'd like to see him back. Just pleased that he's still fighting and got through the bumps to contribute in a limited role.
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Some on this board have been hyping up Cole a bunch, even talking about him immediately coming in and running the point/team. I think he's got a bunch of skill but I think if AG played against the competition Cole did he would look like a world beater as well. This board constantly comes down with the "backup qb" sickness - overrating the abilities of someone we don't get the chance to see and denigrating those of the ones we do. I think Gaffney is 100% the starting pg and hope Cole is a great piece next to him/first man off the bench. I think having a AG back next year, if he understands his reduced role, would be big.
 
Sphinx said:
Look, Hurley has already taken two shots at bringing in the "big fish" we need -- Springs and Brown-Ferguson. Why are we so quick to write these guys off? We are bringing back starters at both the the 4 and 5, and we've already recruited back-ups behind both. Further, we have two other bigs on the injured list who may well be giving us serviceable minutes by the second half on next year. Meanwhile we have exactly two ball-handlers -- Gaffney and Cole -- an injury to either one leaving us having to alternate Bouk at point, a position where he clearly would be less effective as the Richard Hamilton rover he naturally is. Further we have a coach who loves to play 4-guards and is showing postitive results doing it. Further, bringing in Jackson next year only enhances the opportunity to go small and athletic at the corners. Net-net, the best use of AG's scholarship may well be to have AG hold onto it.
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You're not wrong, Springs and Javonte Brown Ferguson will be great additions. But if we have the opportunity to bring in Cliff (seems unlikely, but "recruiting is fluid") or get our 2021 top center prospect Sanogo on a reclass it would be mind boggling to pass that up to bring back a guard who at best we can hope will be a second or third string PG.

Also the opportunity to bring in a much needed shooter on the grad transfer market, which AG is not, would be tough to pass up as well.

We know what the ceiling is for AG at this point. I'd love to see us have that spot to take a shot at an improvement. Worst case scenario, we bring in a grad transfer who can give us the same production as AG. Best case scenario, we bring in a game changer.
 
Sphinx said:
Look, Hurley has already taken two shots at bringing in the "big fish" we need -- Springs and Brown-Ferguson. Why are we so quick to write these guys off? We are bringing back starters at both the the 4 and 5, and we've already recruited back-ups behind both. Further, we have two other bigs on the injured list who may well be giving us serviceable minutes by the second half on next year. Meanwhile we have exactly two ball-handlers -- Gaffney and Cole -- an injury to either one leaving us having to alternate Bouk at point, a position where he clearly would be less effective as the Richard Hamilton rover he naturally is. Further we have a coach who loves to play 4-guards and is showing postitive results doing it. Further, bringing in Jackson next year only enhances the opportunity to go small and athletic at the corners. Net-net, the best use of AG's scholarship may well be to have AG hold onto it.
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You are forgetting Brendan Adams whose more than capable of playing the point.
 
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I have been an AG supporter. We are seeing many flashes of what he can be. Saying he's a god awful shooter or thinking any freshman will be better are probably off base. First of all, the kid has a beautiful stroke. His mechanics are near perfect. I guarantee his shooting has been a mental issue and he's lights out in practice. I think we are seeing a rebirth and I sensed Hurley was nurturing him last night a few times. Pulling him aside, teaching, praising and smiling. Hurley likes AG a lot. He's trying to help him get better and use all that talent, of which there is plenty.

Given his injuries and limited teammates, I will give AG a pass on a lot of his earlier mistakes. The people saying he looked good playing with people that can catch have a solid take. He looked like a PG to me. He was finishing in lane because there wasn't 3 defenders there waiting. Why? Because, now you can't leave our other guys open. They will burn you, before they couldn't do anything. The game is opening up primarily because everyone, especially Bouk and Whaley are playing so much better. I also love AG's on ball defense. He creates a lot of issues. The main reason Gaffney got the steal and reverse last night was AG bothering the passer. It was a team effort and I love them out there together. They handle pressure much better in tandem. We will be a much bigger threat nationally with Gilbert, Cole and Gaffney than without. Experienced guards win championships.
 
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Hoophound said:
We be a much bigger threat nationally with Gilbert, Cole and Gaffney than without.
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What about a Cole, Gaffney and Townes/Darling combo? Or Burner/Cliff/Sanogo? Plenty of options with as much, if not more upside out there. No one is saying get rid of AG and bring in some random freshman project. I think the smart play is to use that spot to try for an upgrade, and at the very least we can fall back on a grad transfer who can give us the production we will expect from AG (2nd/3rd string PG).
 
Jay-Bone said:
I'd prefer to wait before speculating, but curious to know more about Cole. If he is a shooter and can play off the ball, he can fill into CV's shoes and JG and AG handle the primary ball handling duties. That way with Bouk we remain a 3 headed dog. But I trust in Hurley and Al coming to the best mutual conclusion. Personally, as a fan, I'd like to see him back. Just pleased that he's still fighting and got through the bumps to contribute in a limited role.
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I think you are seeing it now when AG plays with Gaffney. I haven't seen Cole practice, but I expect that we will see some three guard lineups, with Cole, Gafney and Bouk all on the court (or Adams). Jackson is a point forward/guard who can also create for others. In short, I don't expect that we will have any one guy who is getting the majority of assists on this team. I expect a higher assist rate overall, spread across multiple guys.

The clear need right now is in the front court, and I expect Al would likely move on to pro ball somewhere. If not, I'm glad that UConn would welcome him back.
 
I want Gilbert back, more for his potential & described in past leadership than even his play. Idk who better to mentor Akok & polley on their way back than AG
 
Not speculating on anyone specific, but we could make room if AG wants to stay.
 
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