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I love me some Kiah Gillespie but to say Geno dropped the ball on her is ludicrous. I'm sure UConn is very happy with KLS, Collier and Boykin. But KG has that "it" factor, especially when I saw her at the two exhibition games. I'm curious to see how she does against Pittsburgh and Syracuse later this month.
 
Bria Holmes is a senior now. If only Geno hadn't dropped the ball and missed out on her we might have won the championship every year she has been in college. Oh, wait. We did.
 
Come on Joe. Pulido, and she's not from CT, she's from FL. Lawlor is from CT. Geez, they've been on the team for 2 years.
They may have been on the team 2 years--but played like 2/3 minutes per game at the end when the game was decided.
When humans start out with 72 trillion brain cells, count them, after age 20 they start reducing in numbers at the Natural Log (e) rate. So just think how many I have to day and how many you'll have tomorrow (the rhetorical tomorrow). Then ask your self would you remember or care to remember unnecessary factoids?
Thanks for informing me.
 
Alyssa Thomas was a great college player; however, how many championships did she win? She played well her first season in the W.N.B.A., but Kiah outplayed her in her first season. How many people outside of UConn fans would have predicted that?
 
JS, you mentioned some salient and timely points, all of which must be taken into consideration before offering a scholarship to a recruit. When she announced that she committed to Maryland, someone asked her why she didn't commit to UConn. "They never offered me a scholarship" she said.

You know the coaches huddle in Geno's office regularly, and thoroughly discuss all of the potential recruits, and how they each feel about said recruit's potential value to the program, and their probability of fitting into, and being a productive member of the team.

Just because a player is tall, has handles, and can shoot the lights out in high school, does not mean those attributes will carry over into college. Usually they do, but not always. The 6'4" and taller girls rarely play against someone as tall as them in high school, so they usually have their way on the block. If they're shooting jumpers on the perimeter, no one has been blocking their shots.

In Geno I trust. He knows what he is doing!! He knows what type of player he wants to bring into his program and work with. During his 30+ years in coaching, he's made enough errors in judgement (recruits) in the past, to have it down pat by now.

Geno knows the difference between pyrite (fool's gold), and a real "pure gold" nugget when he sees it, as does his staff. There were reasons UConn didn't offer her a scholarship. Reasons we probably will never know. UConn is not for everyone. As fans, we want ALL of the best players to come to Storrs, and the Huskies carry on and perpetuate their championship legacy.

You can't have 14 girls on the team that were #1 or #2 in their class. Not enough basketballs on the court during the game. Some girls are going to be starters, and play the majority of the minutes, and some have to be role players and come off the bench. Sadie Edwards did not envision being a role player when she committed to UConn.

The combination of too many players that play the same position, who the coach is, where the school is, are their friends going there?, and other mitigating factors and circumstances, contribute heavily in determining where the recruit ultimately decides to go.

None of this is breaking news. Everyone here on the yard already knows this. So with that said, I leave you with the same thought that Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers imparted to the Packers fans recently...R-E-L-A-X. :cool:
Have you asked yourself what was the MOTIVATION for the posting that you gave this answer to?? Maybe he/she got what he/she wanted. I didn't know Geno was a Metallurgist . Coaching and Metallurgy too!!!
 
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I'm extremely amused at how certain you are a player will be a star when she has zero collegiate experience.


There are plenty of UCONN fans who do this :rolleyes:
 
No spitting match Dreamer but who really dropped the ball ? Was it the coach or the one posting here? Many here would wonder why a player with that much talent was not recruited but most realize there is a reason. There are many topics on a recruit a staff cannot or simply will not comment on. It will come out down the road as it has in the past.
Again not to be slanderous but you have been here since late August, do some homework on the history of the program. Enjoy the read, you can always come back and realize maybe Geno did not drop the ball. He just let it fall in someone else's court.
Here's hoping she has a successful carrier as a turtle and keeps them in the lime light. As for Geno, we can only hope he learns how to recruit and build some kind of decent legacy........:confused::confused::confused:
 
I've spoken to a couple of evaluators of basketball talent and all say Kiah is a good/great talent but would not be a good fit at UConn. She wouldn't thrive in the UConn system. This is not a knock on Kiah and/or her family.


I liken it to a great/good looking guy/girl with a great personality but when you get to know him/her, you realize its just not going to work out. He/She is still good looking, with a great personality and your friends say you're a fool, but you know what's best for you. Time to move on.

I've criticized Geno for not having more CT High School players on the team and will probably do so again. Hopefully the next above average talent coming out of CT will be a fit at UConn. Would love to see another Nykesha Sales play AT UConn.

Your first and last sentences seem to contra each other. Would he actually turn down a Sales? Probably not!
 
You Sir, have just made an idiotic statement.

You can see the future huh? Top 3.

UCONN had 3 better and higher ranked frontcourt players in their class.
She's real nice for a Maryland
but Maryland is NO UCONN.

What is great for Maryland is middle of the road for UCONN.

You're just an agitator looking for attention. Go Home.

That's an absurd statement, to say the Uconn recruits are better the KG. How do you know? Because they play for Uconn, they are better right? KG in my opinion is a hybrid forward who's game is similar to Dirk Nowitzki. I'm sorry. You guys are delusional. Gillespie, to me will be the better player compared to your Uconn players in her class.
 
That's an absurd statement, to say the Uconn recruits are better the KG. How do you know? Because they play for Uconn, they are better right? KG in my opinion is a hybrid forward who's game is similar to Dirk Nowitzki. I'm sorry. You guys are delusional. Gillespie, to me will be the better player compared to your Uconn players in her class.

And what are you drinking? KG will be a fine player, but its very doubtful that she will be better then any of the UCONN recruits. Only time will tell!
 
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That's an absurd statement, to say the Uconn recruits are better the KG. How do you know? Because they play for Uconn, they are better right? KG in my opinion is a hybrid forward who's game is similar to Dirk Nowitzki. I'm sorry. You guys are delusional. Gillespie, to me will be the better player compared to your Uconn players in her class.

Hoop - you are a fan of Gillespie. Fine.

To say Geno dropped the ball - I don't think so.

As to who will be better, time will tell. However, our 3 freshman do have a big advantage - the UCONN coaching staff. Geno and company are superior coaches to Brenda and company. That is a fact. Geno will get the max and more out of our frosh - bank on it.

We hope Gillespie has a fine career at MD. No ill will here.

BTW - you do know this a UCONN board.
 
Hoop - you are a fan of Gillespie. Fine.

To say Geno dropped the ball - I don't think so.

As to who will be better, time will tell. However, our 3 freshman do have a big advantage - the UCONN coaching staff. Geno and company are superior coaches to Brenda and company. That is a fact. Geno will get the max and more out of our frosh - bank on it.

We hope Gillespie has a fine career at MD. No ill will here.

BTW - you do know this a UCONN board.

So are you saying there should be no debating? I brought up KG, because she resides in the State of Connecticut. But you guys feel Geno is the perfect basketball God. That's great! Happy for you. People like Tony C and others bleed Uconn to a point to where only Uconn should field a great team. If you don't wind up a Uconn, then you guys throw championships in players faces, which is find and dandy. Let's be fair and impartial
 
Tar and feather Geno!!

I'm extremely amused at how certain you are a player will be a star when she has zero collegiate experience.

In fairness, there is a tendency on this board that when a player commits to UConn, many here are certain she will be a star before she steps on the court.

That, of course, reflects faith in the coaching staff's recruitment efforts.
 
They may have been on the team 2 years--but played like 2/3 minutes per game at the end when the game was decided.
When humans start out with 72 trillion brain cells, count them, after age 20 they start reducing in numbers at the Natural Log (e) rate. So just think how many I have to day and how many you'll have tomorrow (the rhetorical tomorrow). Then ask your self would you remember or care to remember unnecessary factoids?
Thanks for informing me.
As a UCONN fan, I guess I don't consider the names of the players to be unnecessary factoids.

And, you're welcome. ;)
 
In fairness, there is a tendency on this board that when a player commits to UConn, many here are certain she will be a star before she steps on the court.

That, of course, reflects faith in the coaching staff's recruitment efforts.

There is equally a rush to condemn them to be overrated. See the KLS can't hit the ocean thread. Last year it was Nurse. Before that it was Chong... Banks... Steph...
 
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That's an absurd statement, to say the Uconn recruits are better the KG. How do you know? Because they play for Uconn, they are better right? KG in my opinion is a hybrid forward who's game is similar to Dirk Nowitzki. I'm sorry. You guys are delusional. Gillespie, to me will be the better player compared to your Uconn players in her class.
Well there are a lot of people who actually make a living at this stuff, who disagree with you. They all had Boykin, Collier and Samuelson ranked higher than Gillespie. Now MAYBE, you're right and they are all wrong. But the likelihood of that is pretty small.

Personally, I think she's gonna be a good player. She's got a full ride scholarship to a great school. What's there to complain about??
 
Alyssa Thomas was a great college player; however, how many championships did she win? She played well her first season in the W.N.B.A., but Kiah outplayed her in her first season. How many people outside of UConn fans would have predicted that?

Thomas 8.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg
Stokes 5.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg

I don't exactly call this being outplayed. Stokes did have an excellent year blocking shots.

The Ogwumike sisters didn't win any NCAA championships either. A lot of this depends on the situation of your team is in and the timing of when you are there.

Alydar was a great horse. But Affirmed was better.
 
As a UCONN fan, I guess I don't consider the names of the pla
yers to be unnecessary
factoids.

I guess I don;t count as a TRUE UConn fan--Men since 1950's (on radio and in the field house parking in the snow wind driven parking lot)
Confess I only began watching Uconn WBB since they were on CPTV. Guys like Pender, Corley, Poughkepsie Popper, Bobby Boyd, Walker tend to block out end of bench players. (Walker took us to the NIT's, it was a fantastic year for Uconn)

An interesting factoid is : No matter what those who disable the Constitution may say, what you consider important--is not necessary for me.
Again, I really appreciate in getting corrected about Lawlor being a Connecticut girl--

And, you're welcome. ;)
 
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That's an absurd statement, to say the Uconn recruits are better the KG. How do you know? Because they play for Uconn, they are better right? KG in my opinion is a hybrid forward who's game is similar to Dirk Nowitzki. I'm sorry. You guys are delusional. Gillespie, to me will be the better player compared to your Uconn players in her class.


No-one knows, but scouts who have watched them play certainly like two of the UConn recruits a lot more than Gillespie. More importantly, Geno does and he has shown himself to be a tremendous judge of both talent and character. The fact that he never offered Gillespie a scholarship says something. You are the one who is delusional. Also clearly have some sort of relationship to Gillespie.
 
Did Geno drop the rope too?
I am glad that I was able to garner a lot of interest on this topic. You're welcome.
Unlike the Pope--Geno is Fallible, as all humans he makes mistakes in judgement. He gets some, he rejects some, and he misses some.
The huge question of this thread is: Are his successes greater than his failures, and I'll narrow it down a bit, THIS YEAR~!!!
 
Thomas 8.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg
Stokes 5.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg

I don't exactly call this being outplayed. Stokes did have an excellent year blocking shots.


Looking at things in more detail, Stokes also is way ahead in blocked shots (2nd in the league), had a much better shooting pct, and had a lot fewer turnovers:

Stokes . 5.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, .547 FG pct, 2.0 bpg, 0.8 spg, 1.1 tpg, 25.4 mpg
Thomas 8.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, .411 PG pct., 0.2 bpg, 1.2 spg , 1.8 tpg, 26.0 mpg


Also, Stokes leads in most advanced metrics, including:

Win Share: Stokes 3.6, Thomas 1.3
PER (player efficiency rating): Stokes 15.3, Thomas 14.5 (mostly measure offense)


Also Stokes was 2nd in ROY voting. Thomas got exactly zero votes in her rookie year. Stokes was the #2 vote-getter for the all-rookie team. Thomas was 5th.
 
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