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Gandy Malou-Mamel on Ireland’s U20 team, will play July 6-14

Zonepress said:
Saw the game on live tv
Completely remember the out of bounds play right in front of st Anthony’s bench
Also remember thinking that st Anthony’s played defense like a college team
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Better than a college team. The Tournament of Champions game used to be at Meadowlands Arena. I went every year. I remember watching the team that was written about in the book having actual plays on defense. It was beautiful. He would hold up a number and suddenly there would be a pinch double right past half court and everyone else rotated so the only pass was a diagonal half court pass that even you could pick off. He was a defensive coach and the men's team has a lot of their similarities. Of course, their offense is also complicated, complex and the best in the country but I always think about that play. It was a series of picks that is eerily similar to this year's set offense on the NC team.
 
Someone else mentioned this, why is she (Gandy) not in the low post more? One would think her coach would park her under the basket and tell her to block shots, rebound, and look for passes into the post! She was the biggest girl on the court but was all too often roaming the perimeter. I don’t get it!
 
Cuango said:
Someone else mentioned this, why is she (Gandy) not in the low post more? One would think her coach would park her under the basket and tell her to block shots, rebound, and look for passes into the post! She was the biggest girl on the court but was all too often roaming the perimeter. I don’t get it!
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I'm wondering how much time GMM has spent with the Irish team prior to this tournament? By the time they play U20 most players have had a couple of years of USA play while MalouMamel may be a team newcomer.
 
Cuango said:
Someone else mentioned this, why is she (Gandy) not in the low post more? One would think her coach would park her under the basket and tell her to block shots, rebound, and look for passes into the post! She was the biggest girl on the court but was all too often roaming the perimeter. I don’t get it!
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Ireland plays a five out offense - Gandy is supposed to be on the perimeter. Hence my post about not understanding the offensive scheme. I have the same thought you do, that Gandy needs to be in the paint
 
I'm just glad to see that Gandy moves her feet well on the perimeter. Geno's sure to use her that way occasionally too.
 
HuskyNan said:
Ireland plays a five out offense - Gandy is supposed to be on the perimeter. Hence my post about not understanding the offensive scheme. I have the same thought you do, that Gandy needs to be in the paint
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Yes, that’s correct. The challenge is that for a 5-out offense to be effective, you have to have players constantly moving through the lane via back cuts, pick & rolls, flashing into the paint to post up a defender, etc.

All that takes practice, timing and execution. Ireland is young and their offensive execution is not particularly disciplined, so Gandy and her teammates sometimes end up standing around. That certainly won’t be a problem at UConn.
 
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She's starting to realize that she can play at a high level. U20 is a great learning experience in any case.
I think Ireland may retool their style of play by next year. Hopefully she'll get invited to practice with the national team.
 
FIRST QUARTER ICELAND 22 Ireland 16
Gandy two points on one for two shooting
two rebounds, two turnovers ( one not her fault )
Very frustrating watching the IRISH and their
chronic poor passing, and missing " bunnie".
Iceland is a guard oriented team and shows
good ball hawking skills, they anticipate and
steal even the good Irish passes.
 
Zarathustra said:
FIRST QUARTER ICELAND 22 Ireland 16
Gandy two points on one for two shooting
two rebounds, two turnovers ( one not her fault )
Very frustrating watching the IRISH and their
chronic poor passing, and missing " bunnie".
Iceland is a guard oriented team and shows
good ball hawking skills, they anticipate and
steal even the good Irish passes.
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Very Painful to watch. Iceland started out
the second Quarter on a 15 - 1 run. Iceland
hit a few 3 pointers, #4 their point guard
Jana Falsdottir is playing well offensively
and defensively. Ireland is rattled, out
of sync and their passing is HORRIBLE and
their shots roll off the rim.. The Irish
need to play Gandy in the LOW POST and
DESTROY this smaller ICELAND Guard
oriented defense. As we saw in other games
this is probably not going to happen.!!
 
Half TIME ICELAND 45 IRELAND 22
Gandy playing time approx 9 minutes 26 secs.
three points on one for 3 shooting one free throw
two turnovers, Zero.
Iceland guards are 5' 7" #4, mentioned above, and 5 ' 7" #7, their
tall player # 16 is 5'11" with 16 points. Irish
shots roll OFF the rim. Finally Ireland gets
Gandy to the low post and feed her but
she is SWARMED by three players (as seen in
previous games ). These are not easy finishing
shots, , but "do-able".
QUICK, ACCURATE PASSES by THE ICELANDERS.
 
Zarathustra said:
Half TIME ICELAND 45 IRELAND 22
Gandy playing time approx 9 minutes 26 secs.
three points on one for 3 shooting one free throw
two turnovers, Zero.
Iceland guards are 5' 7" #4, mentioned above, and 5 ' 7" #7, their
tall player # 16 is 5'11" with 16 points. Irish
shots roll OFF the rim. Finally Ireland gets
Gandy to the low post and feed her but
she is SWARMED by three players (as seen in
previous games ). These are not easy finishing
shots, , but "do-able".
QUICK, ACCURATE PASSES by THE ICELANDERS.
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FIELD GOAL % Ireland 6/36 16.37 % ICELAND 46.88%
two point % Ireland 5/ 27 18.52 % ICELAND 11/22 50%
three pointers IRELAND 1/9 11.11 % ICELAND 4/10 40 %
REBOUNDING: IRELAND 22 ICELAND 25 TURNOVERS: IRELAND 9
ICELAND 7.
 
Zarathustra said:
FIELD GOAL % Ireland 6/36 16.37 % ICELAND 46.88%
two point % Ireland 5/ 27 18.52 % ICELAND 11/22 50%
three pointers IRELAND 1/9 11.11 % ICELAND 4/10 40 %
REBOUNDING: IRELAND 22 ICELAND 25 TURNOVERS: IRELAND 9
ICELAND 7.
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One last stat before the final tally: # 7 for ICELAND,
5'7" guard , EVA Eliasdottir is shooting 8 for 9 with
a field goal percentage of 88.89 %! 7 for 8 on two pointers ..
(mostly on drives to the basket) and one for one on 3 pointers.
Her drives look like a hot knife going through butter!
Getting near the end of the THIRD QUARTER, Gandy
has not reentered the game since halftime. See you
after the game. THIRD QUARTER IS OVER 66 - 36.
GANDY eventually did get in. She made two free throw
for a total of 5 points total. Rebounds: 5 with five offensive.
 
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Final Score Iceland 88 Ireland 45
Gandy: 15 minutes 52 seconds, 8 points
on 2 for 9 shooting. Free throws: four for six,
8 Rebounds with 6 offensive. Three turnovers, and
one very nice block on a Iceland guard
driving in for a NON layup! : 5
 
Zarathustra said:
Very Painful to watch. Iceland started out
the second Quarter on a 15 - 1 run. Iceland
hit a few 3 pointers, #4 their point guard
Jana Falsdottir is playing well offensively
and defensively. Ireland is rattled, out
of sync and their passing is HORRIBLE and
their shots roll off the rim.. The Irish
need to play Gandy in the LOW POST and
DESTROY this smaller ICELAND Guard
oriented defense. As we saw in other games
this is probably not going to happen.!!
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So painful I moved on to other things at the end of first quarter.
 
I think it's safe to say that the offense/defense that UConn runs is slightly better than what Ireland runs! ;)

It was a terrific experience for Gandy. She's grown in leaps and bounds, and that's with (maybe) some decent coaching/development, but certainly not what she will see at UConn. I actually think it was maybe a good thing for her to work on playing out of position (or perhaps a better phrase would be "not being used properly") - getting better at lateral movement on defense, moving her feet, seeing what clearly didn't work...

By all accounts she's a terrific kid, hard worker, strong, good motor, athletic, and teachable. I honestly have no idea what her upside is, but look at a player like Tierra McCowan - averaged 6.7 and 8.6 PPG her first 2 years, then over 18 PPG her last 2 years. Not saying Gandy will be THAT good, but with her work ethic, size, etc... hopefully the sky's the limit for her!

Go Gandy! Keep working hard and come to UConn as prepared a you can possibly be!!!
 
I wonder where she stands with her academics? She would be a perfect candidate to follow Jana’s example and come to UConn early. She would, I’m sure, huuugely benefit from being able to practice with the team and get settled in before her official time started. Either way, I am very excited about her as I think she has the potential to be a very good player for us. It’s exciting to think what she may look like after a couple of years in the UConn system!

Someone had the audacity:) to suggest that she (Gandy) could possibly become Tina Charles by the final two years of her stay here. Though many will laugh and decry the “absurd” expectation, she does seem to have the physical foundation to become a dominant front court player. Will she be that good? Well, probably not, but she could miss that mark by quite a lot and still become a difference maker here! I personally, am very bullish on Gandy. She has all the basic requirements to become a monster in the post. I have every expectation that Chris & Geno will mold her into one of the better post players in the country by the end of her time here!
 
From what I see, it just appears that they are in a pickle where all their other players are small used to a 5 out scheme small ball even though they can't handle the ball. This is in conflict with a player like Gandy. I hope the Irish coaches see the opportunity they are missing and rethink their scheme for the future.

She will be just fine in a UConn scheme.
 
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Being a pragmatist/realist, I am looking at the game after Ireland plays Croatia: I predict a
rematch with Ukraine (I predict Ukraine losing to Great Britain in the next game on Saturday). Ireland
beat Ukraine 69 - 56 recently but Ukraine had a better FG % 35.7 % to 31.9 for the IRISH.
The " difference maker" was rebounding: Irish 49 to 41 with11 more for the Irish
on the offensive boards. Ireland also won the assist battle: 21 to 16 and the steals: 11 to 6,
and (surprisingly The Irish had fewer turnovers 16, 23 for Ukraine. Ukraine committed
28 fouls to Ireland's 20. Ireland also won the points off turnovers: 25 to 3 and the second
chance points 14 to 4. Despite the poorer FG % with the extra rebounding the IRISH were
able to get off 69 shots to Ukraine's 56. This will still be a problem game IMHO. In
many ways this was Ireland's best team effort (but not Gandy's best game: 4 points and
5 rebounds, 3 offensive). Sara Hickey # 6 had 22 points to lead the way for the IRISH. I did not
realize it at the time but perhaps with GANDY being doubled and tripled teamed, this
allowed Ms. Hickey to shine. However, I do not expect SARA HICKEY to repeat her 22 points, so
for the IRISH to Win and claim 7th place in the tournament, GANDY has to have a
solid game. How will the IRISH H.C. use her? How will the IRISH respond to the
added pressure? This could be a BARNBURNER or a straightforward win by
either side (again my opinion). GO IRISH, GO GANDY, GO UCONN. Nika probably
knows quite a few players on the Croatian team. Nika Rodek is # 8 and is the primary PG for
the Croatian with 6.6 assists per game. Nika is 5' 11".
 
Don't believe a poorly coached team teaches any lessons. It does allow bad habits to start which future coaching has to overcome. Hopefully this is a short experience that will resolve itself once she is back playing HS ball.
 
Gandy Malou-Mamel: 2024 U20 EuroBasket (through 5 games):
  • Minutes: 20.6 (4th)
  • EFFscore: 14.2 (1st)
  • Points: 8.8 (4th)
  • Rebounds: 9.8 (1st)
  • Assists: 0.4 (10th)
  • Steals: 0.7 (Tie 7th)
  • Blocks: 1.2 (1st)
  • Turnovers: 2.2 (4th)
  • 2 Pt %: 53.3% (1st)
  • 3 Pt %: 0.0% (Tie 7th)
  • FT %: 57.1% (5th)
  • FGA: 6.0 (5th)
Ireland: 2024 U20 EuroBasket: Overview | Roster | Games | Statistics | Videos | News | Photos |
 
reelfan said:
Don't believe a poorly coached team teaches any lessons. It does allow bad habits to start which future coaching has to overcome. Hopefully this is a short experience that will resolve itself once she is back playing HS ball.
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Watched a few minutes of a past game and came away with two thoughts:
-Gandy is better than I had anticipated. Brings back memories of Kiah Stokes. Likely will need 1-2 years of UConn coaching to reach her potential.
-The Irish system is so different than what she will find at UConn or compete against in college that I wonder what she can learn from it. -She is frequently playing outside on defense and getting swarmed when she gets the ball inside on offense. Little opportunity to refine skills she will need at the US college level. While I don't agree that this will be a negative experience for Gandy, don't see much value for her development.
 
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Zarathustra said:
First Quarter IRELAND 24 Croatia 24 A nice surprise!
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HALF TIME IRELAND 51 Croatia 36 In the second
period IRELAND 27 !! Croatia 12. I am unable to
access the link to stats. Gandy with some nice rebounds,
scoring on some "dump offs" into the low post. Finally
the Irish have found their shooting touch! Hopefully some
stats later. Being wrong so far on this game, I was also
wrong on the other "Qualifying game" with Ukraine beating
Great Britain. So maybe, just maybe, Ireland will play
Ukraine, but for the # five postion rather than a game for
the # 7 position ( tomorrow ).
 
Half time Stats Gandy 8 minutes 43 seconds
6 points on 3/5 shooting Five rebounds two offensive.
no Blocks, no assists, no turnovers, Efficiency 9
#6 for Ireland 15 points Sara Hickey, # 14 10 points.
# 18 13 points === Balanced scoring!
 
Zarathustra said:
Half time Stats Gandy 8 minutes 43 seconds
6 points on 3/5 shooting Five rebounds two offensive.
no Blocks, no assists, no turnovers, Efficiency 9
#6 for Ireland 15 points Sara Hickey, # 14 10 points.
# 18 13 points === Balanced scoring!
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Third Quarter IRELAND 68 Croatia 50
Again trouble with accessing stats. Gandy with
a nice " dive" to the basket with a good pass
and 2 points. Gandy is on the " high" post
for offense when she is in there.
 
Final Score Ireland 87 Croatia 73
No complete stats as of yet ( that I could
access ). Gandy with a nice steal, a good
offensive rebound with a "kick out" for
an Irish three pointer. Croatia's bench was
unhappy with the second half officiating.
They were warned. Repeated comments
later... an expected " T ". Then more
comments from a coach on the bench.
He got the next "T" and was directed "OFF
THE COURT"! Gandy had a pretty good
second half. Still needs a bunch of "polishing".
So,... I had the Sunday game correct: IRELAND
vs Ukraine ( a repeat ) but not in the loser's
bracket battle for 7th vs 8th place, but in the
WINNER's BRACKET for a possible 5th Place!
Go GANDY! GO IRISH!, GO HUSKIES!
STATS: Gandy 18 minutes 43 secs
17 POINTS! 6/9 2 point shooting, 5/7 Free
throws, 7 rebounds: 4 offensive, one assist,
two steals, two personal fouls ( KEEP THOSE ARMS
UP STRAIGHT !) of 22! NICE!
 
Gandy Malou-Mamel: 2024 U20 EuroBasket (through 6 games):
  • Minutes: 20.3 (4th)
  • EFFscore: 15.5 (1st)
  • Points: 10.2 (4th)
  • Rebounds: 9.3 (1st)
  • Assists: 0.5 (9th)
  • Steals: 1.0 (Tie 5th)
  • Blocks: 1.0 (1st)
  • Turnovers: 1.8 (Tie 6th)
  • 2 Pt %: 56.4% (1st)
  • 3 Pt %: 0.0% (Tie 7th)
  • FT %: 60.7% (5th)
  • FGA: 6.5 (5th)
Ireland: 2024 U20 EuroBasket: Overview | Roster | Games | Statistics | Videos | News | Photos |
 
FIRST QUARTER IRELAND 25 Ukraine 20
Gandy 5:26 minutes Six Points, four
rebounds one offensive 7. Ireland had
a big lead and then Ukraine hit 3/5 three pointers
Gandy is a good facilitator from the high post and
she is showing nice speed ( for her size ) on
transition offense. ( She does NOT trail the
flow!) One AIR BALL from the foul line...
not an Aaliyah Edwards... YET!
 
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