Game of Thrones Season 8

[nelsonmuntz]

I don't doubt that with more time they would have done a better job wrapping up the story. It didn't happen. Whose fault that is is up for debate. Like ColchVEGAS, I have an issue not so much with the ending but with how it got there -- there was just no time to cover everything. It felt like someone rushing to thank everyone at an awards show before the music starts.

I liked episode 2 and episode 6 the best of this season because they were smaller, character development episodes, rather than giant battles. Most of the characters I wanted to spend more time with are gone. Maybe this season could have used one more episode just to slow it down a little. Episode 4 should have been 40 minutes longer, and split into two episodes. Give the characters a little more time to digest the Battle of Winterfell, and their futures. I think some of the tertiary characters that show up at the very end, like Royce and Tully, should have been in the battle of Kings Landing too, just to bring them back in the loop.

Edmure Tully didn't get enough air time in the show or the books for that matter, He was one of the more interesting characters, mostly a jackass, but just competent enough to be credible as a player. It happens off screen, but he does lead his army to victory over an army led by the Mountain.

I don't like Bronn getting Highgarden. I think it would have been more interesting for him to find out that the nobility of Westeros would never accept him as an equal, and he should have finished the show dependent on Tyrion's good graces.

These are quibbles though.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Drogon and dragons in general and their use in the show was fine. The ultimate resolution, was fine. It’s a shame Benioff and Weiss had to rush it to get to Star Wars, but whatever. We needed more from the Night King story line. Ultimately he acted mainly as a McGuffin which is a cheap storytelling mechanism.

Anybody notice the blades of grass peeking out of the snow as Jon started to walk north with the wildlings? Summer is coming?

The lack of Night King motivation is a massive plot hole, and my biggest complaint about the last two seasons.

 

[Mots010]

I think we are finding a big gap between fantasy fans and fans of the character. The fantasy fans are mad because fantasy stories generally have clean resolutions, and this one doesn't. The fans of the character development and the story are fine with the ending because the ice zombies and dragons were always the least interesting part of the story.

I am glad Drogon left the way he did.

Not sure how much cleaner if could have been. They spent the last 30 minutes wrapping up the story lines. My preferred ending is if the show just faded to black as Drogon rode off with Dany. Did we really need the last 30 minutes? Imagine the Breaking Bad finale tacking on 30 minutes following Jesse/Skyler/Walt Jr around as they rebuilt their lives. I don't think it was necessary. Although I guess we are getting a post-Breaking Bad movie, lol.

 

[Mano]

Not sure how much cleaner if could have been. They spent the last 30 minutes wrapping up the story lines. My preferred ending is if the show just faded to black as Drogon rode off with Dany. Did we really need the last 30 minutes? Imagine the Breaking Bad finale tacking on 30 minutes following Jesse/Skyler/Walt Jr around as they rebuilt their lives. I don't think it was necessary. Although I guess we are getting a post-Breaking Bad movie, lol.

A huge part of me was hoping Drogon would bend down to let his new master board him. And as we see Jon take his seat, the utter realization of how powerful he now is washes over him, the winner of the Game of Thrones flashes a look of malevolence as he and Drogon take flight. Cut to black.

Way too out of character tho.

 

[UConn Dan]

I think they did Jon dirty in the end. He either should have died a hero, or been king, not banished to the no longer necessary night's watch.

The only thing I can think of is that they're setting this up for a feature where Jon somehow gets another shot to come out of exile (they need him to summon Drogon or something). There's a new enemy coming from the west that Arya discovers.

 

[traitor71]

The way the show ended left the garage door wide open for the inevitable Sequel series. Though HBO denies any sequels in the works, this has to be its intent, Otherwise, why so many loose ends. Do you think that
-The Unsullied & Dothraki are going to stay put on the Red Witch's Isle when Greyworm so strongly feels that he has unfinished business with Tyrion & Jon?
-Arya is sailing off a cliff because the world actually IS flat? I see a whole series where she becomes an alterego if Leif Erikson.
-Sansa is satisfied ruling JUST the North when she can maneuver Bran as her proxy?
-What ABOUT Bran? Could it be that he "Hodored" Dany into madness as a pawn to achieve his actual goal of ascending to the throne & if so, what is the reaction of the Nobles of Westeros if this secret comes out?
-Then there's Ms. Greyjoy: She pledged allegiance to Dany, not the Starks. She wasn't a ward of Ned's as her brother was. Could she & Greyworm conspire in an uprising against House Stark?
There are all sorts of possible plot twists.

Because the show runners mailed it in. There is no explanation, no justification, just the fact that these guys were washed and produced a pretty poor end to the series.

 

[Fishy]

Second viewing? I would rather remarry my ex-wife for another ten-year prison term than rewatch that mess. It was awful. God awful. I literally was yelling at the television "just end."

Yes, but you're kind of a nitwit who seems happier when you're miserable.

 

[whosurdaddy2720]

Aren't all the Unsullied eunuchs? Or is it just Greyworm? That's cool they got their own island and all but how exactly are they going to maintain a civilization without a single baby maker amongst them??

 

[traitor71]

So many things to pick at, but what's done is done I guess.

I am glad Bronn didn't get killed somehow, but you have to laugh that a guy who didn't understand how money was lent out and repaid is now the master of coin for the realm. And why does the North get to go off and be it's own kingdom? Wouldn't anyone else want the same deal? Seriously, how the hell would Bran the broken hold it all together with a capital in ruins and no army to speak of?

We have to make so many assumptions because of the way this thing was rushed at the end. Makes for a very unsatisfying conclusion.

 

[uconnbaseball]

Surprised Arya wasn't killed off.

 

[Deepster]

So, Arya's list ended up being nothing but BS. She killed Meryn Trant, Polliver and Walder Frey and no one else.

The Hound
Meryn Trant
Cersei
Joffrey
Ilyn Payne
Polliver
The Mountain
Walder Frey
Tywin Lannister
Melisandre
Beric Dondarrion
Thoros of Myr

 

[navery12]

Surprised Arya wasn't killed off.

She's about to walk off the end of the Earth so maybe she was

 

[Rico444]

And why does the North get to go off and be it's own kingdom? Wouldn't anyone else want the same deal? Seriously, how the hell would Bran the broken hold it all together with a capital in ruins and no army to speak of?

Yeah I was fully expecting Tyrion to suggest that there be no king and that all the kingdoms just rule themselves, especially since the capital was destroyed along with 90% of its population.

Would've made much more sense.

 

[SubbaBub]

Did you ever think that she got that postion by default because no one wants anything to do with her? Even her own family.

Arya sailing off the end of the earth to get the hell away from her
Bran takes a throne he doesnt care about to get the hell away from her
Jon will live beyond the wall just to put more distance between him and Sansa.

She got it for no other reason than because she was there. She had Littlefinger killed and stopped being a doormat. Still not the cleverest person in Westeros but made something if herself, kudos.

That Jon was moved out for her is not a plausible plot line. The guy saved the country, including killing the woman who burned King's Landing. They make him King of the North or the Six Kingdoms the second Grey Worm is over the horizon.

Bran is close to a coma patient and Arya is following the Greatful Dead on their tour of North America. Sansa beat out Robin Arryn. Not hard.

 

[HuskyHawk]

As far as the "Game" of Thrones, you could argue that Bran didn't really play it. He was destined to be the 3 Eyed Raven and fulfilled his destiny.

Sansa ruling the North? Played the game better than anyone. Sorry, ADub. She did.

She managed to get her father killed, and was tortured/raped by the two most evil characters in the story. She didn't play well for most of the "game", but nobody learned more about how to play it than she did.

Bronn indeed had the most dumb luck, along with Sam. Arya earned it.

Jon deserved a better fate, exiled for saving the world from a mad tyrant. Better ending would be him hopping on the dragon, nuking the unsullied while the Dothraki run away. He lands, lets everyone know he's Aegon and they make him king. He declares the North independent, Sansa is happy, Tyrion remains the Hand, Sam the Maester and all is well.

 

[The Viking]

I have not been one to gripe about the writing the last two years as I have still found the shows entertaining.
The first 40 minutes last night right through the burning of the throne were great then the last 30 minutes were a joke.
Sansa, Arya, Bran and Tyrion all know that Jon is the rightful heir to the throne and would do a damn good job of it but they basically end all meaning to his life while they all end up doing exactly what they wanted?
Tyrion begs for Jon to put his life on the line for him and do the right thing then says sorry bud. Maybe I'll see u in 10 years if u haven't offed yourself yet.
And we dont get to see how Jon is caught after the dragon takes off with Dany? That's kind of important and could turn out to be a hell of an intense scene with him trying to escape no?

 

[The Viking]

Some of u are correct though they have left an opening for a resurrection of this show if they choose.
Especially if the next HBO show is a bomb.

 

[tzznandrew]

Jon deserved a better fate, exiled for saving the world from a mad tyrant. Better ending would be him hopping on the dragon, nuking the unsullied while the Dothraki run away. He lands, lets everyone know he's Aegon and they make him king. He declares the North independent, Sansa is happy, Tyrion remains the Hand, Sam the Maester and all is well.

His ending is perfect: he dithered about making pretty much every major decision and that indecision in the end cost him the chance at a normal life.

But he grew: forced to take the black (for whatever reason), he ignored word and went to live north of the wall with the Wildlings.

 

[Walker11]

I think we are finding a big gap between fantasy fans and fans of the character. The fantasy fans are mad because fantasy stories generally have clean resolutions, and this one doesn't. The fans of the character development and the story are fine with the ending because the ice zombies and dragons were always the least interesting part of the story.

I am glad Drogon left the way he did.

I think this is completely off. I am not a fantasy fan at all. Most of the complaints here and from the podcasts I listen to are that several characters acted in ways that didn't seem true to themselves based on their characters development throughout the first 6 seasons. Did anyone really want a fairytale ending?

I think the writers dug themselves into a hole with the way last season ended. The zombie goose chase plot and the destruction of the wall really forced the writers hands.

 

[calluke]

 

[Horatio]

Greyworms in pain

 

[methodology]

Got a text from an aquaintance that works at waters edge said john snow is there and staying there

No clue if its legit or not

 

[navery12]

Got a text from an aquaintance that works at waters edge said john snow is there and staying there

No clue if its legit or not

I heard the same from someone at work, so I think it's legit

 

[Excalibur]

I heard the same from someone at work, so I think it's legit

Was spotted in Madison today.

 

[SubbaBub]

Alternate ending...

 

[Walker11]

Tyrion gives a spiel about how a good story is the most powerful thing in the world before suggesting Bran. Nobody ever mentions the story of the bastard son of the one time Hand and protector of the North who became the commander of the Nights Watch, is murdered and comes back from the dead, is found out to be the rightful heir and the last living Targaryen, the man who killed the mad queen in order to save the people of Westeros.

I get why John isn't the king and have no issues with him being sent to the Wall. But mentioning the power of a story while ignoring the single most powerful story is ironic. Dumb writers write dumb things.

 

[Mots010]

Here's a pretty accurate summary of season 8.

 

[crazyUCfan23]

Here's a pretty accurate summary of season 8.

spot on

 

[nwhoopfan]

Those pitch meeting videos are great, there are a crap ton of them for a bunch of movies.


edited--seriously that guy is awesome, I stayed up too late last night watching a bunch of these. "It's easy, barely an inconvenience."

 

[Walker11]

Those pitch meeting videos are great, there are a crap ton of them for a bunch of movies.


edited--seriously that guy is awesome, I stayed up too late last night watching a bunch of these. "It's easy, barely an inconvenience."

This was pretty good. Never heard of the channel before. Some of the simpletons in this thread should watch the video, especially the guy who said the finale was a top 5 episode. And the guy who actually said this:

"I think it’ll play better with a second viewing. There’s a lot going on - someone said the show felt like it was written by second-graders. I think the problem for most is that it wasn’t...."