Game of Thrones - Season 4

[Fishy]

I think the incesty-rape next to the dead incest-kid really has to top whatever creepy list you're putting together.

Yeah, the demon crawling out of the witch's vagina was kind of creepy, but it wasn't like it was an incest demon. And there were b oobs mitigating it all.

(I like how I can type 'incesty-rape' and 'witch's vagina', but the word b-o-o-b gets censored by the filter - you gotta wonder...)

 

[ZooCougar]

I think the incesty-rape next to the dead incest-kid really has to top whatever creepy list you're putting together.

Yeah, the demon crawling out of the witch's vagina was kind of creepy, but it wasn't like it was an incest demon. And there were b oobs mitigating it all.

(I like how I can type 'incesty-rape' and 'witch's vagina', but the word b-o-o-b gets censored by the filter - you gotta wonder...)

This show has desensitized me so much. I had just come to believe that in that world people (if they are in fact humans like us) just have different morals.

Pretty much any scene where Ramsey and Theon interact creeps me out still.

 

[John]

This show has desensitized me so much. I had just come to believe that in that world people (if they are in fact humans like us) just have different morals.

Pretty much any scene where Ramsey and Theon interact creeps me out still.

I'm reading the books, and am up to Dance with Dragons. I've come to the conclusion that George RR Martin is one f ucked-up individual. Kind of like a sadistic Stephen King (another author who I enjoy but think is probably a bit f ucked-up in the head)

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Even Ned Stark, who is still the beacon of morality 3 seasons and 4 books after his death, beheads someone in the first 15 minutes of the series because the guy doesn't want to fight ice zombies.

 

[Scalito]

I think the incesty-rape next to the dead incest-kid really has to top whatever creepy list you're putting together.

Yeah, the demon crawling out of the witch's vagina was kind of creepy, but it wasn't like it was an incest demon. And there were b oobs mitigating it all.

I dunno. The fact that a scene was so creepy that booobs weren't much of a mitigating factor says a lot to me. It's pretty dang hard to make naked booobs on a pretty woman insuficient, for anything, but that demon-birth thing did it for me.

 

[Scalito]

I am looking forward to the next few episodes. With the fight coming up to test Tyrion's guilt, I imagine that we are up for a couple really good endings that I've been waiting for ever since Joffrey was given his due. Won't say what, but it should be fun.

 

[SubbaBub]

I am looking forward to the next few episodes. With the fight coming up to test Tyrion's guilt, I imagine that we are up for a couple really good endings that I've been waiting for ever since Joffrey was given his due. Won't say what, but it should be fun.

Is anyone else a bit put off by Littlefinger as supreme puppet master. I know the text has him responsible for a lot of events, but I don't recall him responsible for everything the show claims. Or am I misremembering? Specifically, Aran's death and the Red Wedding

 

[Scalito]

Is anyone else a bit put off by Littlefinger as supreme puppet master. I know the text has him responsible for a lot of events, but I don't recall him responsible for everything the show claims. Or am I misremembering? Specifically, Aran's death and the Red Wedding

He is responsible for John Arryn's murder in the books. Tywin Lannister orchestrated the Red Wedding though (certainly in the books and I think in the HBO version too). The only true rival Littlefinger has that we know of is Varys. Both are overlooked due to lack of family heritage and power....

 

[SubbaBub]

He is responsible for John Arryn's murder in the books. Tywin Lannister orchestrated the Red Wedding though (certainly in the books and I think in the HBO version too). The only true rival Littlefinger has that we know of is Varys. Both are overlooked due to lack of family heritage and power....

Maybe it was Lysa's involvement that through me off. I do recall his being behind Arryn's death. I think I would have remembered her culpability, but honestly there is so much information in those books, I have trouble remembering the minor characters.

 

[Rocktheworld]

He is responsible for John Arryn's murder in the books. Tywin Lannister orchestrated the Red Wedding though (certainly in the books and I think in the HBO version too). The only true rival Littlefinger has that we know of is Varys. Both are overlooked due to lack of family heritage and power....

"Rival" as in has comparable stuff brewing behind the scenes? Or just similar characters

 

[Scalito]

"Rival" as in has comparable stuff brewing behind the scenes? Or just similar characters

Comparable schemes. Don't know what his objective is, but he's playing the long Game.

 

[John]

Comparable schemes. Don't know what his objective is, but he's playing the long Game.

seems to me that Varys grand scheme is to protect the realm by supporting the best king/queen for the realm, whereas Littlefinger's grand scheme is to do what's best for Littlefinger.

 

[Rocktheworld]

seems to me that Varys grand scheme is to protect the realm by supporting the best king/queen for the realm, whereas Littlefinger's grand scheme is to do what's best for Littlefinger.

And while even before these big reveals this season about all the stuff he's been behind, we've had glimpses, such as the whole backstory with Catelyn, with Varys all I remember us ever getting is some longing stares at the Iron Throne, some cryptic statements about as Spartacus said the long Game, and his backstory was he got castrated by some sorcerer. I feel like Varys really is the one most in the shadows

 

[John]

I keep reflecting on a quote by him, I believe in the first book, about how he is "serving (or protecting? I can't remember the exact term) the realm since no one else is"

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I think the incesty-rape next to the dead incest-kid really has to top whatever creepy list you're putting together.

Yeah, the demon crawling out of the witch's vagina was kind of creepy, but it wasn't like it was an incest demon. And there were b oobs mitigating it all.

(I like how I can type 'incesty-rape' and 'witch's vagina', but the word b-o-o-b gets censored by the filter - you gotta wonder...)

There may be a separate category for incest. In addition to Cersei/Jaime doing the nasty over almost 2 decades, there is Craster's Keep and the Targaryans. It is not clear in the show or books if Viserys and Dany actually did anything or not, but it seems to be implied.

Margaery offered Renly a 3 some with her and her brother, but Renly chickened out. Wimp. If you are bi or bi curious and ok with a little incest, you are not going to do any better for threesome partners than Margaery and Loras. Seriously, that is literally as good as it is going to get.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

The scenes in Tyrion's cell have been the highlights of this season, and perhaps the entire series.

Agree that the scene with Gregor was gratuitous. As if the multiple references to his unfettered pillaging, murdering and raping aren't enough to convince us that he's not a nice guy . . .

I was surprised that they covered Lysa's murder so quickly -- almost as if Sansa's experiences in the Vale are an afterthought.

The Tywin/Arya scenes from season 2 are still the best done in the series.

 

[John]

There may be a separate category for incest. In addition to Cersei/Jaime doing the nasty over almost 2 decades, there is Craster's Keep and the Targaryans. It is not clear in the show or books if Viserys and Dany actually did anything or not, but it seems to be implied.

Margaery offered Renly a 3 some with her and her brother, but Renly chickened out. Wimp. If you are bi or bi curious and ok with a little incest, you are not going to do any better for threesome partners than Margaery and Loras. Seriously, that is literally as good as it is going to get.

the actress that plays Margaery is unbelievably photogenic.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Wooooooooow

That was grizzly

 

[jleves]

Holy Shat! That was intense.

The entire beetle smashing conversation was wonderful.

Maybe the best exchange of the series: "Size does not matter when you're on your back" (nice foreshadowing) with the response from the imp "Thank the Gods!"

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

The Mountain and the Viper absolutely lived up to the books.

 

[partial]

Add that to the gory list.

 

[JCSuperstar]

The Mountain and the Viper absolutely lived up to the books.

Yeah they did a great job.

Having read the books, I am enjoying this season more than any other. The most fun on TV and great to watch with someone who doesn't know what's coming.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

You could see what was coming in that battle scene....and they still found a way to make it shocking. Excellent scene making in this show.

 

[phillionaire]

CRUNCH

 

[phillionaire]

The Mountain and the Viper absolutely lived up to the books.

I just wish Tyrion had thrown up his firey Dornish peppers and eggs he had eaten for breakfast

 

[coachcap]

the actress that plays Margaery is unbelievably photogenic.

That would be Natalie Dormer. She also had a recurring role in Season II of Elementary as Sherlock Holmes's long lost love who turned in actuality to be Holmes's arch nemesis "M". She's being typecast as an alluring siren with a devious undercurrent. She comes in #3 on my list of favorite new generation actresses after Katheryn Winnick & Olivia Munn. (They All trail my all-time favorite-Ann Archer)

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I felt that the show has done a good job repairing several plot problems the books had by the end of the third book.

For example, bringing Sansa to the Vale and keeping her identity a secret from everyone did not make a lot of sense, but that is what Martin did in the books. I have no idea how Martin will undo that situation in the books, but the show just skipped it altogether because it was needlessly complex and unnecessary. Sansa is dangerous to hide, but also no longer just a pawn now like she was when she was in Kings Landing. The Vale is right next to the North, and one of the things that bugged me about the books is that it was not credible that all these high lords in the Vale had no one that would recognize the eldest Stark daughter. The scene last night enables the show to skip a confusing plot twist that Martin used in making Sansa anonymous, and makes the Lords of the Vale part of the conspiracy to resist the Lannisters. I also like that Sansa is playing the game better herself now. She and Littlefinger are co-dependent now rather than her just dependent on him.

One of the things that always bugged me about the books and the show was the Iron Islands' invasion of the North. They had no chance of success, but it was a huge plot twist and set into motion Robb Stark losing the War of the Five Kings. It is never explained why Balon Greyjoy did it, other than to maybe get revenge for his defeat by Ned Stark years earlier, but Ned was already dead by the time Greyjoy ordered the invasion. I get that Martin wanted the Theon/Ramsey plot line, but he should have explained how he got there. All the Iron Island's occupying armies are getting slaughtered now, as was completely expected. The show did handle Theon's betrayal of his countrymen at Moat Cailin well.

I was expecting Tywin to be a little more conflicted about the death of Oberyn Martell, since this creates a huge problem for him. He invited the Martells to Kings Landing to make peace, and now the #2 Martell is dead, killed by one of Tywin's bannermen. How does he expect Oberyn's brother to respond to this?

The scene with Jorah and Dany was well done. You could practically see Jorah's heart breaking as she banished him. I also like the subplot of Grey Worm and Missandei.

 

[coachcap]

Holy Shat! That was intense.

The entire beetle smashing conversation was wonderful.

Maybe the best exchange of the series: "Size does not matter when you're on your back" (nice foreshadowing) with the response from the imp "Thank the Gods!"

A five minute dissertation on smashing beetles: on one hand, filler to fill the lull in action, on the other a microcosm of Tywin's master plan for ultimate conquering of the entire of Westeros. And perhaps a foreshadowing of his ultimate Doom? (being kicked by a mule while his concentration is elsewhere)

 

[Rocktheworld]

I also like the subplot of Grey Worm and Missandei.

Actually one of my favorite parts of the episode was Grey Worm, a man who is literally castrated, feeling guilty and apologizing to her for being sexually attracted to her.

 

[uconn_jack]

Haven't read the books, and don't know (or want to know until subsequent episodes) what Tyrion's fate will be, but I hope they don't kill him off since he is the best character/actor on the show. I am just not sure how he gets out of it? Does the Mountain ultimately die too, leaving it a "draw" (although I would think that wouldn;t matter since Oberyn died first). Does Jaime man-up for his brother and confess to everyone that Joffery was his and not actually king (and therefore no regicide committed?).

Loved Arrya's uncontrollable laughing.