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SI and ESPN have not said a thing about this yet. Hmmm.
Wonder how warm this is.
 
methodology said:
I mentioned previously on this board I am very good friends with someone who has connections at UVA.

After just speaking with him he says from the person he knows UVA is not going anywhere or deciding on going anywhere until anoher ACC team leaves. Says UNC and UVA have a pact to stay put until they are forced to move.

MD lawsuit is also part of the decision making.
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Makes sense. UConn fans have to hope for somebody (B1G, B12, SEC) to make some ACC school an offer they can't refuse. Gotta dislodge that first brick (well the second brick, MD was the first) before the ACC gets dismantled, or partially dismantled and invites UConn.
 
hexlub said:
SI and ESPN have not said a thing about this yet. Hmmm.
Wonder how warm this is.
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SI and ESPN didn't say anything about RU, UMD until they were almost ready to schedule a press conference. So, either we're not quite there, or UNC is digging in its heels.

Heels... heh.
 
hexlub said:
SI and ESPN have not said a thing about this yet. Hmmm.
Wonder how warm this is.
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It's actually mentioned on ESPN insider rumor blog. They never pick up any of the WVU know nothing's so this does have some traction.

But reading the MDinsider tweet makes me skeptical about the legitimacy of this info.
 
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junglehusky said:
SI and ESPN didn't say anything about RU, UMD until they were almost ready to schedule a press conference. So, either we're not quite there, or UNC is digging in its heels.

Heels... heh.
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Tar Heels. "One such legend claims it to be a nickname given during the U.S. Civil War (conference realignment), because of the state's importance on the Confederate side (ACC), and the fact that the troops (school) "stuck to their ranks (conference) like they had tar on their heels"
 
ZooCougar said:
There is VALUE and POTENTIAL in crushing the leftover BONES in order to extract the nutritious OILS and MARROW.

Think BRANDING and POSITION. Memphis also has a new a scoreboard. LOOK OUT.
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Is it possible to be more Pudge than Pudge?
 
HobokenHusky said:
Tar Heels. "One such legend claims it to be a nickname given during the U.S. Civil War (conference realignment), because of the state's importance on the Confederate side (ACC), and the fact that the troops (school) "stuck to their ranks (conference) like they had tar on their heels"
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Actually the name was originally derisive, after the NC troops left the field, the north said you boys better put some tar on your heels so you'll stick.
 
CL82 said:
Actually the name was originally derisive, after the NC troops left the field, the north said you boys better put some tar on your heels so you'll stick.
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Saw both versions on Wikipedia. Will have to wait and see which version they live up to in CR.
 
ZooCougar said:
I said Ga Tech is about as popular as UVA. And it probably is, and it gives the B1G greater penetration in the south.

I'm simply pointing out that saying that Georgia Tech isn't that popular is pointless unless you can present a school that is a better option that is willing to leave their current conference for the B1G, and meets the B1G criteria, whatever that may be.

If the B1g is picking Georgia Tech over UGA or South Carolina, then maybe you guys would have a point.
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GT being only popular with 14% of the population is a huge deal. With close to zero demand to watch them the B1G would not get much in carriage fees and get into many households. No one in Georgia and going googley eyed about watching B1G football or sports with or without GT in the conference.

UVA is 180% more popular in VA than GT is in Georgia.

If you take the population of each state and multiply it by the % fans in the link I agve you come out with:

1.4 million GT fans vs. 2 million UVA fans

Not to mention by adding UVA you entirely lock down the DC/NOVA/beltway area. By adding GT you lock down nothing and become a 2nd/3rd rate option in the Georgia/ATL market. GT gives the B1G nothing except a very minor presence in ATL, smack dab in the middle of SEC country.
 
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It all makes sense. Not sure why UNC needs GT or UVA other than for a geographic component. If the Big 10 got UNC and anyone that would be huge for them.
 
methodology said:
GT being only popular with 14% of the population is a huge deal. With close to zero demand to watch them the B1G would not get much in carriage fees and get into many households. No one in Georgia and going googley eyed about watching B1G football or sports with or without GT in the conference.

UVA is 180% more popular in VA than GT is in Georgia.

If you take the population of each state and multiply it by the % fans in the link I agve you come out with:

1.4 million GT fans vs. 2 million UVA fans

Not to mention by adding UVA you entirely lock down the DC/NOVA/beltway area. By adding GT you lock down nothing and become a 2nd/3rd rate option in the Georgia/ATL market. GT gives the B1G nothing except a very minor presence in ATL, smack dab in the middle of SEC country.
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Rutgers may not even be the most popular college team in their region. Expansion is being played by a different set of rules. And 14% in Georgia, where college football is a big deal, might be better than 20 something % in Virginia where it really isn't as big.
 
whaler11 said:
It all makes sense. Not sure why UNC needs GT or UVA other than for a geographic component. If the Big 10 got UNC and anyone that would be huge for them.
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I don't think GT to the Big 10 is remotely real for reasons given in this thread and others, and makes me question the entire rumor. What the Big 10 may be doing is using GT as a hammer on UNC and UVa in case one of them is wavering. The ACC did the same thing to the Big East, telling each invited school that if they didn't say yes, one of their conference mates certainly would. That is an offer no school can refuse.
 
freescooter said:
I can see North Carolina. I can sort of see Virginia, though that is a very Southern school, much more so than even Carolina in my view. It will be a bad match long term for the Wahoos I suspect. Georgia Tech I think is a non-starter. Why in heck would you waste a pick, so to speak on a school that is a distant 2nd in its own state? Makes no sense. Nor does it have the theoretical upside potential of a Rutgers. It would be like taking Pitt over Penn State or Louisville over Kentucky or Cincinnati over Ohio State. It just makes no sense.
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Because Atlanta is a large and growing market and the BIG needs to expand south to follow the population trend. GT is second fiddle to UGA...but that isn't as bad as it sounds. Atlanta is still growing at a fast rate. Same is true for the immediate I-85 corridor (Greensville/Spartansburg SC, up to Charlotte). Adding GTech and UNC would be a nice addition.
 
ZooCougar said:
Rutgers may not even be the most popular college team in their region. Expansion is being played by a different set of rules. And 14% in Georgia, where college football is a big deal, might be better than 20 something % in Virginia where it really isn't as big.
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Nope. None of this makes any sense at all.
 
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UConnSportsGuy said:
There is no chance that UConn is going to the B1G in this expansion round. UConn's only chance is to to get the AAU membership in the next few years and invest in their athletic department to grow the fanbase and football/athletic program (and hope the Maryalnd/NJ risk pays off for the B1G). If UConn does this, they will have an outside chance for the B1G if they go to 18 or 20 in 5-10 years. But until then, we do not have a chance at the B1G right now.
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If the B1G does not get UNC or UVA then Uconn chances are dead in the water of any invite to any other conference for years to come. Though if you are an ACC team that doesn't have a love affair with another team in the league why wouldn't you jump. UVA is the only one that would even make sense being so close to UMD and Penn St.
 
Whether I believe it or not (and I don't), according to Nate Silver's now famous blog post on college FB fanbases Atlanta is even with NYC in terms of the number of fans and GT has more fans than UGA.

Like I said, it's hard to belive but, it might help to explain the B1G's interest in GT.
 
methodology said:
GT being only popular with 14% of the population is a huge deal. With close to zero demand to watch them the B1G would not get much in carriage fees and get into many households. No one in Georgia and going googley eyed about watching B1G football or sports with or without GT in the conference.
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Don't sleep on Georgia Tech.

They are a toehold in a huge market.

I went back and looked at some of their television ratings in their DMA. The most watched Georgia game was against Florida and drew a rating of about 18. The most popular Georgia Tech game was against Clemson and drew about a 12.5.

That's very solid and anything but 'zero demand'.

The Big Ten is thinking 30, 40, 50 years out - a presence in the Atlanta market is something worth pursuing.
 
For some reason I see UNC in the SEC, I think they would prefer that and UVA, GT to the B1G.
 
If UNC is willing to join than the Big 10 has their pick since the schools know they are the canary in the coal mine. If UNC is willing to abdicate their throne, all bets are off.

I'm not sure I'm sold that Carolina can walk away without the state legislature weighing in but we'll see I guess.
 
B1G may take 2 of the 3 (UNC, UVA, and GT) with a promise that the third that they will come along when number 18 is in the books. The B1G will then put mega-pressure on ND to become #18. If ND balks then there is 1 spot open for FSU, UConn, BC, Syracuse and others.
 
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HobokenHusky said:
Saw both versions on Wikipedia. Will have to wait and see which version they live up to in CR.
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Wikipedia is a great resource. You can also see that I am the inventor of the forward pass in football on it. Just give me about me about five minutes before you go check.
 
CL82 said:
Wikipedia is a great resource. You can also see that I am the inventor of the forward pass in football on it. Just give me about me about five minutes before you go check.
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Yea, I honestly don't give a which version is correct. Just thought it was funny both could fit the current situation.
 
Fishy said:
Don't sleep on Georgia Tech.

They are a toehold in a huge market.

I went back and looked at some of their television ratings in their DMA. The most watched Georgia game was against Florida and drew a rating of about 18. The most popular Georgia Tech game was against Clemson and drew about a 12.5.

That's very solid and anything but 'zero demand'.

The Big Ten is thinking 30, 40, 50 years out - a presence in the Atlanta market is something worth pursuing.
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Exactly, and the bottom line is how many TV sets they can get their network on. ATL is the 8th biggest TV market in the country. Doesnt matter if you are a UGA, ALA, AUB, FL, or GT fan in Atlanta, you'll be getting the B1G network in your home. The more TV sets that have the B1G network, the more money they get.

The interesting part is Notre Dame. I find it very hard to believe that if the ACC has top football schools like FSU, Clemson, and VT defect to other conferences that they will want to stay and play those 5 mandated games against the likes of Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, etc.

This is the B1G flexing its muscle and trying to paint ND into a corner.
 
SubbaBub said:
Whether I believe it or not (and I don't), according to Nate Silver's now famous blog post on college FB fanbases Atlanta is even with NYC in terms of the number of fans and GT has more fans than UGA.

Like I said, it's hard to belive but, it might help to explain the B1G's interest in GT.
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That blogpost was utterly discredited. Some of the numbers he quoted wer ludicrous.
 
atlanta probably has a lot of B1G grads in it. it'd be a smart move to take gt.
 
Food for thought and not OT: do we have any games scheduled for 2014, at all? Why not? (25 words or less). Just musing.
 
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