From the site that broke the Maryland to Big Ten news- UVA likely to join

[The Funster]

No one has joined the Big 12 because Texas likes 10 teams. I don't see that changing any time soon.

And yet you were the Lead Lemming banging the drum for FSU and Clemson to the Big 12 for months on end. This is why it's hard to take anything you post seriously.

 

[whaler11]

but, what does it take for Big12 to become 3rd choice over ACC. If ACC only loses UVA and GT, does that create a mass exodus?

Big 10 and SEC take 4 ACC schools. Then FSU and Clemson would take the Big 12.

 

[Durks07]

I think people are seeing the ACC is a little more cohesive than people originally thought. there is definitely a pecking order in the conference game, and no school has left for a perceived 'lesser' conference. And, it seems that the ACC schools aren't so quick to head for the Big12. Of course, that decision is easier if there is a possibility of the SEC or Big10 to come calling.
I hope UNC stays in the ACC, meaning UVA and Uconn to the Big10 gains traction.

They probably are more cohesive than we give them credit for, but there is a schism between the "Tobacco Road" schools (UVA, UNC, Duke) and the "football" schools (FSU, Clem). They added Louisville, and UNC's president couldn't even pretend that he didn't hate the decision. Normally, the new school and the conference play a game of "who can brown-nose more" when they introduce a new member. Looking at the additions, you can see why. Miami, VT, BC, Syracuse, Pitt, ND (all academically strong schools)...and Louisville (diplomas printed on two-ply toilet paper). All the moves prior to UL fit the "academic" requirement, UL assuages the football schools (hadn't happened until this point).

 

[RMoore1999]

Big 10 and SEC take 4 ACC schools. Then FSU and Clemson would take the Big 12.

And the B12 would have option of going even further by adding the likes of Gtch, Miami, LSVL and Pitt. Even if B1G and SEC stop at 16, post-avalanche, the ACC could conceivably be left with Duke, Wake, Cuse and bc.

Will be interesting to see what card ND plays as this all starts rolling....

 

[whaler11]

And the B12 would have option of going even further by adding the likes of Gtch, Miami, LSVL and Pitt. Even if B1G and SEC stop at 16, post-avalanche, the ACC could conceivably be left with Duke, Wake, Cuse and bc.

Will be interesting to see what card ND plays as this all starts rolling....

They could. Not sure there a lot of good candidates to go past 12, but I'm sure a school like WVU would love to get some more regional opponents.

 

[pj]

Miami, VT, BC, Syracuse, Pitt, ND (all academically strong schools)...and Louisville (diplomas printed on two-ply toilet paper). All the moves prior to UL fit the "academic" requirement, UL assuages the football schools (hadn't happened until this point).

Are you serious? Pitt and ND I can see as academically strong institutions. None of the others are. SAT scores of admitted undergrads are almost identical at Syracuse and Louisville (http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/louisville.htm and http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/syracuse.htm). Syracuse had to drop out of the AAU because they are #194 among universities in research funding, http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/05/syracuse_university_pulls_out.html.

The ACC gave up on academics a long time ago. The B1G still has that luxury. That is one aspect that makes it attractive to UVa / UNC / Ga Tech, and even FSU who would like to upgrade its research standing.

 

[Dann]

the acc gave up on academics in 1953. the whole academics thing was and is a ploy to act like they are better then the sec. which they are, but everyone is better than the sec. every time the sec adds they get a little smarter balancing out the hilbillies test scores and that threatens the belt notches of the silly private schools and there high horses.

 

[Durks07]

Are you serious? Pitt and ND I can see as academically strong institutions. None of the others are. SAT scores of admitted undergrads are almost identical at Syracuse and Louisville (http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/louisville.htm and http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/syracuse.htm). Syracuse had to drop out of the AAU because they are #194 among universities in research funding, http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/05/syracuse_university_pulls_out.html.

The ACC gave up on academics a long time ago. The B1G still has that luxury. That is one aspect that makes it attractive to UVa / UNC / Ga Tech, and even FSU who would like to upgrade its research standing.

The ACC never (that I know of anyway) has made "research" a criteria (or consideration) for membership. Only 5 ACC schools are members of the AAU (http://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476). Syracuse dropping AAU might be relevant to the discussion of whether they can go B1G, but not one about the academic quality of the ACC. While the B1G has that luxury, they choose to ignore it (Nebraska #102, not in the AAU) themselves.

U.S. News and World Report Rankings (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities)
#18 ND ('12)
#31 BC ('03)
#45 Miami ('03)
#60 Syracuse ('11)
#62 Pitt ('11)
#74 VT ('03)
#163 Louisville ('12)

If they gave up on academics a long time ago, then why is it that they didn't choose to add an absolute dumpster fire of a "college" until Louisville? If none of the other schools are strong academic institutions, then what does that make Uconn (#63)?

I'll grant that the SAT scores are similar, but when one of the two (hint: its Louisville) doesn't even report the SAT writing scores of their students I'm not exactly going to view that positively.