If true.....FSU and Clemson just executed a master class in blackmail.
The other schools in the conference should tell them to pound sand-although that won't happen.
What's crazy about the supposed plan is that it is based on media value. Well, if FSU and Clemson have most of their games on ABC/ESPN and BC and Syracuse have most of their games on ACCN/ESPN2, guess which schools will have the higher ratings? Rigged system.If true.....FSU and Clemson just executed a master class in blackmail.
The other schools in the conference should tell them to pound sand-although that won't happen.
Why would any of the current conference teams be receptive to adding another seat @ the table (UConn) to eat their conference provided food?The reports say that ACC members will get merit payments not just for football but also basketball. Will the ACC add UConn first in basketball and olympic sports and later in football as the B12 was chatting about?
UConn could add more revenue to conference overall by increased viewership of basketball games. It's cost benefit analysis thing.Why would any of the current conference teams be receptive to adding another seat @ the table (UConn) to eat their conference provided food?
This would make sense if they took UConn's pro rata share have UConn take say 12 million for the duration of the contract and add the remaining 18 million to the bonus pool. In that scenario it makes sense because they have to add money to be available to pay in an unequal revenue sharing withou squashing the existing members.Why would any of the current conference teams be receptive to adding another seat @ the table (UConn) to eat their conference provided food?
If Syracuse or BC were more desirable from a TV perspective, you can be sure they would be on ABC/ESPN.What's crazy about the supposed plan is that it is based on media value. Well, if FSU and Clemson have most of their games on ABC/ESPN and BC and Syracuse have most of their games on ACCN/ESPN2, guess which schools will have the higher ratings? Rigged system.
I think there is a built-in presumption in that hypothetical that ESPN would pay for our addition in a revenue, neutral manner, i.e. give us a full share. Given our lack of bargaining power, the ACC wouldn't necessarily have to distribute that full share to us. I could see that potentially getting the votes to pass because the FSU/Clemson block, which traditionally would vote against us, might vote for us if they thought that the excess amount that we receive was going to go to them.Why would any of the current conference teams be receptive to adding another seat @ the table (UConn) to eat their conference provided food?
Agree that it's a bad idea, and the conference should tell FSU to pound sand.Uneven revenue distribution is a terrible idea for a conference. Because the winners will take that extra revenue, invest more in their programs, the loser schools will lose even more revenue, invest less in their programs, and the conference will be even less competitive as a result. And FSU et al will leave anyway as soon as the GOR runs out. So what's the point of holding the conference together? Negotiate an exit fee, let them go, and rebuild a more stable conference with what's left.
You're trying to imbue logic into the ACC's CR dealings, but as their last few additions have shown, they don't think logically at all. By they way, I agree with you, but you know as well as I that the ACC has screwed up their past few decisions, and I don't think they'll get that "Eureka!" moment when it comes to UConn.UConn could add more revenue to conference overall by increased viewership of basketball games. It's cost benefit analysis thing.
It would not shock me if UConn is now having quiet discussions with ACC about joining. Duke may be one of our supporters.
- Why would some ACC schools vote to accept less money? They need the conference to hold together no matter the amount of bubblegum & shoelaces or they will be cast aside. Wake is Exhibit A, giving up a huge viewership game with Ole Miss
- Why would FSU & Clemson vote to accept more money in the ACC? Probably because they won't win their lawsuit. They still won't make P2 $$ and they will be signing yet another bad contract just to save face. Doesn't make much sense
- Why would anyone vote to expand with programs like UConn? UConn brings $$ regardless of how it is shared and there is strength in numbers
- The market will eventually prevail. The P2 are the P2. The Big XII has proactively made very solid moves to make it #3 going forward. OSU and WSU have been relegated to G# status. The ACC is fighting against the Tsunami which will not last
Excellent analysis. Once the ACC has stability, it will start looking for ways to remain stable. That means adding schools that increase their revenue in football and hoops. We are the top of that list for the ACC. We are the marquis hoops program in the country. That matters. Plus, the Big 12 commissioner gave us a boost by identifying us as juicy target for expansion (even if a minority of goobers in the Big 12 athletics departments didn't have the foresight to see that he was right). We fit academically and geographically with the ACC. This will happen.
- Why would some ACC schools vote to accept less money? They need the conference to hold together no matter the amount of bubblegum & shoelaces or they will be cast aside. Wake is Exhibit A, giving up a huge viewership game with Ole Miss
- Why would FSU & Clemson vote to accept more money in the ACC? Probably because they won't win their lawsuit. They still won't make P2 $$ and they will be signing yet another bad contract just to save face. Doesn't make much sense
- Why would anyone vote to expand with programs like UConn? UConn brings $$ regardless of how it is shared and there is strength in numbers
- The market will eventually prevail. The P2 are the P2. The Big XII has proactively made very solid moves to make it #3 going forward. OSU and WSU have been relegated to G# status. The ACC is fighting against the Tsunami which will not last
If true.....FSU and Clemson just executed a master class in blackmail.
The other schools in the conference should tell them to pound sand-although that won't happen.
I think this is generally correct. But as to why FSU and Clemson would take this new route, what choice do they have? I’m pretty sure they aren’t heading to the SEC/Big 10. So even if they win their suit, I think a low probability, what do they win? I guess they couldbrenegotiate their ACC deal or move to the B12. Unlikely worth the effort.
- Why would some ACC schools vote to accept less money? They need the conference to hold together no matter the amount of bubblegum & shoelaces or they will be cast aside. Wake is Exhibit A, giving up a huge viewership game with Ole Miss
- Why would FSU & Clemson vote to accept more money in the ACC? Probably because they won't win their lawsuit. They still won't make P2 $$ and they will be signing yet another bad contract just to save face. Doesn't make much sense
- Why would anyone vote to expand with programs like UConn? UConn brings $$ regardless of how it is shared and there is strength in numbers
- The market will eventually prevail. The P2 are the P2. The Big XII has proactively made very solid moves to make it #3 going forward. OSU and WSU have been relegated to G# status. The ACC is fighting against the Tsunami which will not last
Unfortunately, there are no more chairs at the table. The ACC has a lot of great teams and fans.Well, it's not like any other school in the ACC can bully the conference for more money. And if other schools get pissed and their eyes start wandering at other conferences it still helps FSU and Clemson.
If the GOR ends in 2030, FSU, Clemson etc. can leave a few years before and not pay a huge amount. That means the ACC very well may have seats at the table soon.Unfortunately, there are no more chairs at the table. The ACC has a lot of great teams and fans.
They need to regroup and create a strong brand.
If basketball mattered. UConn would be in the Big 12 already, or even the B1G. But it doesn't. I don't see the ACC expanding if FSU and Clemson remain. Sadly, UConn football remains abysmal. Ranked 126 at this time.Excellent analysis. Once the ACC has stability, it will start looking for ways to remain stable. That means adding schools that increase their revenue in football and hoops. We are the top of that list for the ACC. We are the marquis hoops program in the country. That matters. Plus, the Big 12 commissioner gave us a boost by identifying us as juicy target for expansion (even if a minority of goobers in the Big 12 athletics departments didn't have the foresight to see that he was right). We fit academically and geographically with the ACC. This will happen.
Just remember the GOR of the ACC will likely expire in 2030 under the new plan. Some of the remaining schools have strong basketball programs.If basketball mattered. UConn would be in the Big 12 already, or even the B1G. But it doesn't. I don't see the ACC expanding if FSU and Clemson remain. Sadly, UConn football remains abysmal. Ranked 126 at this time.
They still would have to pay the exit fee which is $130 million I believe. Agree, though, that at that point, the cost of returning the GOR is much easier to negotiate.If the GOR ends in 2030, FSU, Clemson etc. can leave a few years before and not pay a huge amount. That means the ACC very well may have seats at the table soon.
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It’s every man for themselves…