February General CBB Discussion Thread

[Flipside]

Transfer Portal for the win! ... if Cronin behaves like that in public, imagine what he does in private

 

[auror]

Texas Tech loses at Arizona St, and loses Toppin to a leg injury.

Storming a court for beating the #13 team when their best player gets hurt is not a choice I would make.

 

[Vuce]

Miami gets 2, zags 1, some random team (Santa Clara? McNeese?) 1

Miami is friggin good at offense.

Miami is going to be an interesting one to watch. Being undefeated at this point in the season is impressive no matter who you are playing. But, let's say they lose in the conference final or semi final. UMass had them on the ropes a couple weeks ago and gave them a good run last night. Akron could knock them off if they play really well. So Miami finishes the regular season with 1 loss but their metrics are horrendous. They are 84th on Kenpom now (49th NET) and their non conference SOS is 359th!! They are 1-0 in Quad 1 and 2 games combined. They also played THREE Division 2 team this season. If you do the blind resume thing there is no way they'd get in. Wondering if the committee would throw them in the play in games. All that said, they would be fun to watch as a 13, 14 or 15 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Their offense scores a lot and they take a bunch of threes - their defense isnt good so it'd likely be a high scoring game.

 

[Karmacop]

Miami is going to be an interesting one to watch. Being undefeated at this point in the season is impressive no matter who you are playing. But, let's say they lose in the conference final or semi final. UMass had them on the ropes a couple weeks ago and gave them a good run last night. Akron could knock them off if they play really well. So Miami finishes the regular season with 1 loss but their metrics are horrendous. They are 84th on Kenpom now (49th NET) and their non conference SOS is 359th!! They are 1-0 in Quad 1 and 2 games combined. They also played THREE Division 2 team this season. If you do the blind resume thing there is no way they'd get in. Wondering if the committee would throw them in the play in games. All that said, they would be fun to watch as a 13, 14 or 15 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Their offense scores a lot and they take a bunch of threes - their defense isnt good so it'd likely be a high scoring game.

Under the WAB metric, which apparently the Committee will be leaning on more heavily than predictive metrics like KenPom or Net, Miami (OH) is currently 27. Easily an at-large bid level.

 

[caw]

I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.

McNeeley was a reactive get but he was still a get. Reed may not be the perfect fit but he is also not a miss. You can argue he isn't a perfect 10/10 like Silas but he's not a zero like the three guys that came and left without doing anything from that class.

 

[aceboon]

Dirty play builds on itself, and I don’t like watching street fights in basketball games. Cronin made the right move.

Pretty much confirmation that Cronin was in the wrong

 

[RuffRuff]

McNeeley was a reactive get but he was still a get. Reed may not be the perfect fit but he is also not a miss. You can argue he isn't a perfect 10/10 like Silas but he's not a zero like the three guys that came and left without doing anything from that class.

True, I guess my point is that the cycle as a whole didn't feel really well thought out. It ultimately yielded two starting years.

 

[RuffRuff]

The next time you think the BY can compete with RR:

41-21 in two seasons with no recruits on the way. - Forums

Would you have taken that at the beginning of the Mark Pope era? He was an unforgivable hire. We may not make the tournament, gentlemen. We still have five games that we could lose. Even if we win too, we're sitting at 19 wins going into the SEC tournament. Think about that. This is Billy...

www.on3.com

 

[superjohn]

We got McNeeley late off an Indiana decommit, coming off a B2B. There was nothing strategic or planned about it.

Prototype is rim protector, lob runner.

What point are you trying to make? We got two good players and two bad players in that cycle. Nowell wasn't our first choice and they recruited Abraham thinking they would get his cousin Ngongba.

As for prototype. Samson and not Sanogo?

 

[RuffRuff]

What point are you trying to make? We got two good players and two bad players in that cycle. Nowell wasn't our first choice and they recruited Abraham thinking they would get his cousin Ngongba.

As for prototype. Samson and not Sanogo?

My point is that it was a poor recruiting cycle, theory being coaches not as focused after the B2B.

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[Excalibur]

It's also worth noting that for all the talk of Michigan destroying teams this year they are now 14-12 against the spread. They are and should be the favorite, but they are much closer to the field than a runaway favorite despite what people want you to believe

They have had their hiccups, but their A game is significantly better than anyone else's.

 

[bendm]

My point is that it was a poor recruiting cycle, theory being coaches not as focused after the B2B.

At least you stopped beating around the bush

 

[RuffRuff]

They have had their hiccups, but their A game is significantly better than anyone else's.

They'd be undefeated if not for Whisky coming in and surprising them with their Center and PF going 8-14 from 3.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

They have, which is definitely a good sign for them. It's just interesting to see the narrative around a team like Michigan who has played up and down to their competition all year versus the narrative around UConn doing the same thing this year. And the fact it's coming from UConn fans makes it even weirder

I think that’s a bit of generalizing the situations of the two. We peaked early (due to competition, remains to be seen about our peak in playing) while Mich had a huge stretch early of blowouts but have also continued to beat very good to great teams. We are also 9-17 ATS, so 14-12 is a significant bit better.

I wouldn’t call it weird seeing some narrative from our fans. I’m not saying they would demolish us or even beat us in a neutral setting, just simply that they have been impressive. I think even some of the most loyal UConn fans can admit that while we’ve been winning, a lot of it hasn’t necessarily been impressive.

 

[superjohn]

They'd be undefeated if not for Whisky coming in and surprising them with their Center and PF going 8-14 from 3.

They would've lost to Wake if Wake didn't choke. They would've lost to Penn State if PSU had their best player and didn't choke at the end.

 

[FightOnCT]

I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.

Reed wasn’t a miss regardless of prototype

 

[RuffRuff]

They would've lost to Wake if Wake didn't choke. They would've lost to Penn State is PSU had their best player and didn't choke at the end.

And Uconn would have........ Does it bother you if another team is good? Whisky went 15-34 from 3 that game, it was an outlier. They are the team to beat, as recognized by the quality of their roster months ago, thank you. It wasn't hard to see, yet people like you can't stomach acceptance of it for whatever bizarre reason. It's weird. You're bringing up games in the first couple weeks of the year with team that was made up entirely of transfers.

Hopefully we get a shot at them in the F4 and pull off an outlier.

Reed wasn’t a miss regardless of prototype

He's the one grab.

 

[jibsey]

They have had their hiccups, but their A game is significantly better than anyone else's.

Just get us a shot at them and we’ll take our chances.

 

[Excalibur]

I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.

Hard to take this comment seriously. Was Adama the prototype? We desperately needed muscle and defense at the 5, and that's what we got. He's a plus defender. Every defensive metric backs that up.

 

[superjohn]

And Uconn would have........ Does it bother you if another team is good? Whisky went 15-34 from 3 that game, it was an outlier. They are the team to beat, as recognized by the quality of their roster months ago, thank you. It wasn't hard to see, yet people like you can't stomach acceptance of it for whatever bizarre reason. It's weird. You're bringing up games in the first couple weeks of the year with team that was made up entirely of transfers.

Hopefully we get a shot at them in the F4 and pull off an outlier.

He's the one grab.

No, I'm just calling out your nonsense. If you're going to say they would be undefeated if the other team didn't shoot well while disregarding the games they should've lost you're going to get called out on it.

Wake was in the first couple of weeks of the season, Penn State certainly was not.

Michigan was 13 for 23 from three last night, it was an outlier.

You change who the team to beat is every couple of weeks. Sorry if I'm not impressed with your definitive proclamations which are always changing.

 

[Excalibur]

As for prototype. Samson and not Sanogo?

Our "prototype" is a generationally great 7'2" defender. Who knew?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Pretty much confirmation that Cronin was in the wrong

That is just a stupid post by you.

There is a direct correlation of people who think cheap shots are cool and their level of cowardice in real life. Thank you for confirming that.

 

[navery12]

I think that’s a bit of generalizing the situations of the two. We peaked early (due to competition, remains to be seen about our peak in playing) while Mich had a huge stretch early of blowouts but have also continued to beat very good to great teams. We are also 9-17 ATS, so 14-12 is a significant bit better.

I wouldn’t call it weird seeing some narrative from our fans. I’m not saying they would demolish us or even beat us in a neutral setting, just simply that they have been impressive. I think even some of the most loyal UConn fans can admit that while we’ve been winning, a lot of it hasn’t necessarily been impressive.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it's weird when even if we haven't improved as much as some would like we also haven't really dropped off either. We have leveled off at an elite level which seems like something fans should be excited to watch

 

[KingAG]

And Uconn would have........ Does it bother you if another team is good? Whisky went 15-34 from 3 that game, it was an outlier. They are the team to beat, as recognized by the quality of their roster months ago, thank you. It wasn't hard to see, yet people like you can't stomach acceptance of it for whatever bizarre reason. It's weird. You're bringing up games in the first couple weeks of the year with team that was made up entirely of transfers.

Hopefully we get a shot at them in the F4 and pull off an outlier.

He's the one grab.

Are you a bot? I’m seriously starting to question lmao. You pull the same card anytime someone disagrees with you. “Why are you offended someone else is good”. It’s so strange.