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RuffRuff said:
They seem to be one of those teams able to turn it on and off when they want. I wouldn't look at that vs spread stat at all. When there was a purse at play to win big, they slaughtered teams. When they've had prime time matchups on the road, they showed up and then some. That said, they're not UConn 24 - beatable. I think a team with great guard play could be a problem, although not a lot of top teams with crazy good guard duos this year.
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So you agree with me lol. The truth is they don’t have to be 24 UConn good to win the championship. Because no one else is.
 
KingAG said:
So you agree with me lol. The truth is they don’t have to be 24 UConn good to win the championship. Because no one else is.
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Have said it many x, I think that 24 team was perfectly constructed.
 
KingAG said:
People forget 24 UConn went on a 30-0 run in an elite 8 game and damn near won by 30.

They played the most dominant player of this generation in the tile game and won VERY comfortably.

Like they are a top 5 team of the last 40 years. What they did doesn’t happen. Teams winning games in the regular season shouldn’t garner 24 UConn comparisons. Mara isn’t even Clingan if that’s the comparison lol.

It’s very possible that 24 UConn winds up with 5+ NBA players on the roster(Steph, Cam, Clingan, AK, Tristen) and multiple all stars(Clingan, Castle).
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No one here is forgetting that lol. Just throwing some praise Michigan’s way. Their lofty hype bringing in the greatness of our 24 team is cool. No one is saying they’re better, I am just very impressed by them. It isn’t some dig on ‘24.
 
navery12 said:
It's also worth noting that for all the talk of Michigan destroying teams this year they are now 14-12 against the spread. They are and should be the favorite, but they are much closer to the field than a runaway favorite despite what people want you to believe
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They’ve also cleared the spread very easily against a lot of their toughest opponents to date, which is where I think the comparison has some legs. SDSU, Zaga, Nova, Purdue, Mich. State. Didn’t of course against Nebraska and Wisco.

Our ‘24 team did that as well obviously.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
No one here is forgetting that lol. Just throwing some praise Michigan’s way. Their lofty hype bringing in the greatness of our 24 team is cool. No one is saying they’re better, I am just very impressed by them. It isn’t some dig on ‘24.
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Don’t see it as a dig. Just premature. In order to be “like” 24 UConn you have to take in the entirety of what they did/were. And anyone seriously mentioning their name alongside this Michigan team already is sort of forgetting the entirety of what they did imo. That’s all I’m saying.

Similar to people calling Cooper Flagg the next LeBron James before he’s made an all star team.

Let’s say Michigan loses in the sweet 16. Are they still like 24 UConn? Obviously not.

I think every year there will be another “the next 24 UConn”. And I think every year that will never come to fruition.
 
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RuffRuff said:
I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.
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A reactive get?

Was Okafor a reactive get? How about Kemba? How about Bazz? How about Boat? How about Daniels? How about Cam?

What is the prototype for the system?
 
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KingAG said:
Don’t see it as a dig. Just premature. In order to be “like” 24 UConn you have to take in the entirety of what they did/were. And anyone seriously mentioning their name alongside this Michigan team already is sort of forgetting the entirety of what they did imo. That’s all I’m saying.

Similar to people calling Cooper Flagg the next LeBron James before he’s made an all star team.

Let’s say Michigan loses in the sweet 16. Are they still like 24 UConn? Obviously not.

I think every year there will be another “the next 24 UConn”. And I think every year that will never come to fruition.
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Comparisons happen at all times, not just in hindsight. If you want to compare the teams at certain stages of year for it to be more organic, that’s fine. I’d assume a lot of statistics and advanced analytics may favor Michigan due to conference. At this moment specifically in each respective team’s season.

All in all, my point is they are impressive as heck and are reminding me of our ‘24 team the way they wear down teams and have 8+ very capable players. Time will obviously tell, that’s just one man’s observation in the moment.
 
aceboon said:
On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

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Totally agree. He almost got all ball. Lost a lot of respect for Cronin, embarrassing his own player for playing hard. This was nothing at all like Powell at PC who should be banned from ever playing another game. Cronin should issue a public apology. Neither player came close to starting a fight and it was an aggressive play to stop a grandstanding dunk. Mick Cronin may be on the hot seat

bcu was up on FSU 42-32 at the half and lost 80-72. I don't know if bc interruption is their best message board but apparently no one over there is following the basketball team anymore. it doesn't even belong in the A-10. that program is complete garbage
 
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total d b a g. it seems nothing is his fault. It's always all on the players. maybe he just sucks at recruiting and coaching. I can't imagine any of his players enjoy playing for him especially after tonight. and he blames the reporters if you watch the whole video. this guy is a loser

 
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Tonight we have:

Darius Acuff vs Philon

AJD vs Arizona

Wagler vs Arenas
 
aceboon said:
On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

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Dirty play builds on itself, and I don’t like watching street fights in basketball games. Cronin made the right move.
 
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superjohn said:
A reactive get?

Was Okafor a reactive get? How about Kemba? How about Bazz? How about Boat? How about Daniels? How about Cam?

What is the prototype for the system?
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We got McNeeley late off an Indiana decommit, coming off a B2B. There was nothing strategic or planned about it.

Prototype is rim protector, lob runner.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
They’ve also cleared the spread very easily against a lot of their toughest opponents to date, which is where I think the comparison has some legs. SDSU, Zaga, Nova, Purdue, Mich. State. Didn’t of course against Nebraska and Wisco.

Our ‘24 team did that as well obviously.
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They have, which is definitely a good sign for them. It's just interesting to see the narrative around a team like Michigan who has played up and down to their competition all year versus the narrative around UConn doing the same thing this year. And the fact it's coming from UConn fans makes it even weirder
 
aceboon said:
On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

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Am I going crazy? Or is my bar for a dirty play just too high from what Powell did to Hopkins?

That looks like an honest play on the ball that just ended ugly
 
BFieldHusky said:
Texas Tech loses at Arizona St, and loses Toppin to a leg injury.
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Hope it's minor. I'm a big McCasland fan and Toppin is one of those veteran college basketball players that is easy to root for.

Tech has battled frontcourt injuries all season, so I'm hoping that Toppin/Bamgboye/Moseley all have a clean bill of health come the NCAA Tournament.
 
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aceboon said:
On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

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Transfer Portal for the win! ... if Cronin behaves like that in public, imagine what he does in private

 
uconnbaseball said:
Miami gets 2, zags 1, some random team (Santa Clara? McNeese?) 1

Miami is friggin good at offense.
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Miami is going to be an interesting one to watch. Being undefeated at this point in the season is impressive no matter who you are playing. But, let's say they lose in the conference final or semi final. UMass had them on the ropes a couple weeks ago and gave them a good run last night. Akron could knock them off if they play really well. So Miami finishes the regular season with 1 loss but their metrics are horrendous. They are 84th on Kenpom now (49th NET) and their non conference SOS is 359th!! They are 1-0 in Quad 1 and 2 games combined. They also played THREE Division 2 team this season. If you do the blind resume thing there is no way they'd get in. Wondering if the committee would throw them in the play in games. All that said, they would be fun to watch as a 13, 14 or 15 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Their offense scores a lot and they take a bunch of threes - their defense isnt good so it'd likely be a high scoring game.
 
Vuce said:
Miami is going to be an interesting one to watch. Being undefeated at this point in the season is impressive no matter who you are playing. But, let's say they lose in the conference final or semi final. UMass had them on the ropes a couple weeks ago and gave them a good run last night. Akron could knock them off if they play really well. So Miami finishes the regular season with 1 loss but their metrics are horrendous. They are 84th on Kenpom now (49th NET) and their non conference SOS is 359th!! They are 1-0 in Quad 1 and 2 games combined. They also played THREE Division 2 team this season. If you do the blind resume thing there is no way they'd get in. Wondering if the committee would throw them in the play in games. All that said, they would be fun to watch as a 13, 14 or 15 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Their offense scores a lot and they take a bunch of threes - their defense isnt good so it'd likely be a high scoring game.
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Under the WAB metric, which apparently the Committee will be leaning on more heavily than predictive metrics like KenPom or Net, Miami (OH) is currently 27. Easily an at-large bid level.
 
RuffRuff said:
I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.
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McNeeley was a reactive get but he was still a get. Reed may not be the perfect fit but he is also not a miss. You can argue he isn't a perfect 10/10 like Silas but he's not a zero like the three guys that came and left without doing anything from that class.
 
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caw said:
McNeeley was a reactive get but he was still a get. Reed may not be the perfect fit but he is also not a miss. You can argue he isn't a perfect 10/10 like Silas but he's not a zero like the three guys that came and left without doing anything from that class.
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True, I guess my point is that the cycle as a whole didn't feel really well thought out. It ultimately yielded two starting years.
 
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RuffRuff said:
We got McNeeley late off an Indiana decommit, coming off a B2B. There was nothing strategic or planned about it.

Prototype is rim protector, lob runner.
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What point are you trying to make? We got two good players and two bad players in that cycle. Nowell wasn't our first choice and they recruited Abraham thinking they would get his cousin Ngongba.

As for prototype. Samson and not Sanogo?
 
superjohn said:
What point are you trying to make? We got two good players and two bad players in that cycle. Nowell wasn't our first choice and they recruited Abraham thinking they would get his cousin Ngongba.

As for prototype. Samson and not Sanogo?
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My point is that it was a poor recruiting cycle, theory being coaches not as focused after the B2B.
 
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