February General CBB Discussion Thread

[KingAG]

You don't have to take offense to it. He's just saying their roster looks "bullet proof" because they have Mara. Because otherwise they aren't much like that UConn roster at all. They have bohemeths at the 4 & 3, their 2G is nothing like Cam and their PG is nothing like Newt. Really good, but not UConn 24 good.

Dude, who said I’m offended? This is why I hate engaging with you lmao. I said this ealier in the year when we were comparing our team to 23 and 24 UConn. Was I offended then? I’ve been very consistent. I don’t compare non champions to champions. If they finish the job compare away. You want to compare last years Florida to 24 UConn compare away. But we don’t know if they are bulletproof. We know that 24 UConn was bulletproof. Just a premature comparison imo. The chances they pull off what 24 UConn pulled off are extremely thin. I don’t think it’s a fair comparison to them.

 

[navery12]

I guess. I just think its a premature comparison. I get it. But they aren't 2024 UConn yet. They havent even won their conference tournament yet.

It's also worth noting that for all the talk of Michigan destroying teams this year they are now 14-12 against the spread. They are and should be the favorite, but they are much closer to the field than a runaway favorite despite what people want you to believe

 

[aceboon]

On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

 

[KingAG]

It's also worth noting that for all the talk of Michigan destroying teams this year they are now 14-12 against the spread. They are and should be the favorite, but they are much closer to the field than a runaway favorite despite what people want you to believe

People forget 24 UConn went on a 30-0 run in an elite 8 game and damn near won by 30.

They played the most dominant player of this generation in the tile game and won VERY comfortably.

Like they are a top 5 team of the last 40 years. What they did doesn’t happen. Teams winning games in the regular season shouldn’t garner 24 UConn comparisons. Mara isn’t even Clingan if that’s the comparison lol.

It’s very possible that 24 UConn winds up with 5+ NBA players on the roster(Steph, Cam, Clingan, AK, Tristen) and multiple all stars(Clingan, Castle).

 

[RuffRuff]

Reed and McNeeley were in that cycle, or did you just mean guards?

IIRC there was some early Boogie and Edgecombe interest but nothing happened there in terms of visits. I forget who else.

It wasn't a great PG year for recruits, or for transfers.

I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.

 

[RuffRuff]

People forget 24 UConn went on a 30-0 run in an elite 8 game and damn near won by 30.

They played the most dominant player of this generation in the tile game and won VERY comfortably.

Like they are a top 5 team of the last 40 years. What they did doesn’t happen. Teams winning games in the regular season shouldn’t garner 24 UConn comparisons. Mara isn’t even Clingan if that’s the comparison lol.

They seem to be one of those teams able to turn it on and off when they want. I wouldn't look at that vs spread stat at all. When there was a purse at play to win big, they slaughtered teams. When they've had prime time matchups on the road, they showed up and then some. That said, they're not UConn 24 - beatable. I think a team with great guard play could be a problem, although not a lot of top teams with crazy good guard duos this year.

 

[KingAG]

They seem to be one of those teams able to turn it on and off when they want. I wouldn't look at that vs spread stat at all. When there was a purse at play to win big, they slaughtered teams. When they've had prime time matchups on the road, they showed up and then some. That said, they're not UConn 24 - beatable. I think a team with great guard play could be a problem, although not a lot of top teams with crazy good guard duos this year.

So you agree with me lol. The truth is they don’t have to be 24 UConn good to win the championship. Because no one else is.

 

[RuffRuff]

So you agree with me lol. The truth is they don’t have to be 24 UConn good to win the championship. Because no one else is.

Have said it many x, I think that 24 team was perfectly constructed.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

People forget 24 UConn went on a 30-0 run in an elite 8 game and damn near won by 30.

They played the most dominant player of this generation in the tile game and won VERY comfortably.

Like they are a top 5 team of the last 40 years. What they did doesn’t happen. Teams winning games in the regular season shouldn’t garner 24 UConn comparisons. Mara isn’t even Clingan if that’s the comparison lol.

It’s very possible that 24 UConn winds up with 5+ NBA players on the roster(Steph, Cam, Clingan, AK, Tristen) and multiple all stars(Clingan, Castle).

No one here is forgetting that lol. Just throwing some praise Michigan’s way. Their lofty hype bringing in the greatness of our 24 team is cool. No one is saying they’re better, I am just very impressed by them. It isn’t some dig on ‘24.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

It's also worth noting that for all the talk of Michigan destroying teams this year they are now 14-12 against the spread. They are and should be the favorite, but they are much closer to the field than a runaway favorite despite what people want you to believe

They’ve also cleared the spread very easily against a lot of their toughest opponents to date, which is where I think the comparison has some legs. SDSU, Zaga, Nova, Purdue, Mich. State. Didn’t of course against Nebraska and Wisco.

Our ‘24 team did that as well obviously.

 

[KingAG]

No one here is forgetting that lol. Just throwing some praise Michigan’s way. Their lofty hype bringing in the greatness of our 24 team is cool. No one is saying they’re better, I am just very impressed by them. It isn’t some dig on ‘24.

Don’t see it as a dig. Just premature. In order to be “like” 24 UConn you have to take in the entirety of what they did/were. And anyone seriously mentioning their name alongside this Michigan team already is sort of forgetting the entirety of what they did imo. That’s all I’m saying.

Similar to people calling Cooper Flagg the next LeBron James before he’s made an all star team.

Let’s say Michigan loses in the sweet 16. Are they still like 24 UConn? Obviously not.

I think every year there will be another “the next 24 UConn”. And I think every year that will never come to fruition.

 

[superjohn]

I meant the whole class - McNeeley was a reactive get as we got him late. I often wonder if they had to do it all over again, if they would have gone with Reed given he's not exactly the prototype for the system.

A reactive get?

Was Okafor a reactive get? How about Kemba? How about Bazz? How about Boat? How about Daniels? How about Cam?

What is the prototype for the system?

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Don’t see it as a dig. Just premature. In order to be “like” 24 UConn you have to take in the entirety of what they did/were. And anyone seriously mentioning their name alongside this Michigan team already is sort of forgetting the entirety of what they did imo. That’s all I’m saying.

Similar to people calling Cooper Flagg the next LeBron James before he’s made an all star team.

Let’s say Michigan loses in the sweet 16. Are they still like 24 UConn? Obviously not.

I think every year there will be another “the next 24 UConn”. And I think every year that will never come to fruition.

Comparisons happen at all times, not just in hindsight. If you want to compare the teams at certain stages of year for it to be more organic, that’s fine. I’d assume a lot of statistics and advanced analytics may favor Michigan due to conference. At this moment specifically in each respective team’s season.

All in all, my point is they are impressive as heck and are reminding me of our ‘24 team the way they wear down teams and have 8+ very capable players. Time will obviously tell, that’s just one man’s observation in the moment.

 

[Kolumbo]

On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

Totally agree. He almost got all ball. Lost a lot of respect for Cronin, embarrassing his own player for playing hard. This was nothing at all like Powell at PC who should be banned from ever playing another game. Cronin should issue a public apology. Neither player came close to starting a fight and it was an aggressive play to stop a grandstanding dunk. Mick Cronin may be on the hot seat

bcu was up on FSU 42-32 at the half and lost 80-72. I don't know if bc interruption is their best message board but apparently no one over there is following the basketball team anymore. it doesn't even belong in the A-10. that program is complete garbage

 

[Kolumbo]

total d b a g. it seems nothing is his fault. It's always all on the players. maybe he just sucks at recruiting and coaching. I can't imagine any of his players enjoy playing for him especially after tonight. and he blames the reporters if you watch the whole video. this guy is a loser

 

[HW611]

Tonight we have:

Darius Acuff vs Philon

AJD vs Arizona

Wagler vs Arenas

 

[nelsonmuntz]

On that last replay dude went for the ball, Cronin didn't have to embarrass him like that. If the player just stopped at midcourt and let him get the dunk Cronin probably would have took the time to cry and moan in the press conference about that too.

Dirty play builds on itself, and I don’t like watching street fights in basketball games. Cronin made the right move.

 

[RuffRuff]

 

[RuffRuff]

A reactive get?

Was Okafor a reactive get? How about Kemba? How about Bazz? How about Boat? How about Daniels? How about Cam?

What is the prototype for the system?

We got McNeeley late off an Indiana decommit, coming off a B2B. There was nothing strategic or planned about it.

Prototype is rim protector, lob runner.