February 2020 UConn Recruiting Thread

[hoophuskee]

Defense won today's game vs USF .. Aubrey, Liv & Danger .. we should prioritise defense & rebounding for next year: Liv, Aubrey, Mir, Paige & Aaliyah are my starters! that's eggzackly how the Celtics won all those titles, isn't that so?

Yes defense won today. That's what the good teams can do - they can win differently. How much you want to bet -- just kidding "bet" not meant to to be money or any value just a phrase Im saying-- that this lineup you believe in has even a prayer of happening? ANd I can tell you if you are thinking of "Bill Russell basketball" and trying to apply it to today's game - for the most part the game has passed you by. By a lot.

Kids want no part of your brand of basketball. Boring basketball in the 50-s low 60's. You own't win long-term. UCONN has a streak of final fours-- because it is part Geno and part talent. Read that "Generation thread" in which the poster cbaarj is saying Taurasi came to UCONN because she thought they played like "Showtime Lakers."

Those superstars don't want to play your brand of boring archaic basketball trying to win 55-52. You've got one ball-handler in your lineup. None are proven 3pt shooters. All you are thinking of is defense with no respect to shooting or passing. Remember when you said Liv was a good shooter when I mentioned she can't even hit ft's - she was just hitting 62% at the time. well now it's 53%.

I recommend if you have any friends that can reach out to a Div 1 coach and ask them if they think overall a 62% now 53% ft shooter is a good shooter - and they will all say absolutely NOT. None of these players are passers either other than Paige and the team is loaded with 3 frosh and 1 soph and 1 jr. You're enamored with athleticism and assume the athlete can easily shoot and pass. Well I refrain from talking about this further on this thread other than hope one signing we get is Fudd. I love fastbreak basketball and am thankful Geno would never put that lineup you suggest next year. You aren't getting the top recruits with your brand of basketball. And you won't be able to score consistently.

 

[Alydar]

I'm thinking more than five minutes .. when you say short on shooters, who did you have in mind?

Players who have shown an ability to hit from the arc against decent college teams.

 

[Jingo]

Yes defense won today. That's what the good teams can do - they can win differently. How much you want to bet -- just kidding "bet" not meant to to be money or any value just a phrase Im saying-- that this lineup you believe in has even a prayer of happening? ANd I can tell you if you are thinking of "Bill Russell basketball" and trying to apply it to today's game - for the most part the game has passed you by. By a lot.

Kids want no part of your brand of basketball. Boring basketball in the 50-s low 60's. You own't win long-term. UCONN has a streak of final fours-- because it is part Geno and part talent. Read that "Generation thread" in which the poster cbaarj is saying Taurasi came to UCONN because she thought they played like "Showtime Lakers."

Those superstars don't want to play your brand of boring archaic basketball trying to win 55-52. You've got one ball-handler in your lineup. None are proven 3pt shooters. All you are thinking of is defense with no respect to shooting or passing. Remember when you said Liv was a good shooter when I mentioned she can't even hit ft's - she was just hitting 62% at the time. well now it's 53%.

I recommend if you have any friends that can reach out to a Div 1 coach and ask them if they think overall a 62% now 53% ft shooter is a good shooter - and they will all say absolutely NOT. None of these players are passers either other than Paige and the team is loaded with 3 frosh and 1 soph and 1 jr. You're enamored with athleticism and assume the athlete can easily shoot and pass. Well I refrain from talking about this further on this thread other than hope one signing we get is Fudd. I love fastbreak basketball and am thankful Geno would never put that lineup you suggest next year. You aren't getting the top recruits with your brand of basketball. And you won't be able to score consistently.

You made a good point. I can envision Liv morphing into the 'Bill Russell' of WBB for next season. She has all the tools. And if we surround her with other defensive specialists - Aubrey, Mir, Paige & Aaliyah - we can generate terrific offense via steals, in transition and by pounding the glass. Unstoppable!
We should do this because we've already proven that we don't have any offensive stars on our roster, at least not in the big games. When John Wooden adopted this defensive philosophy at UCLA they were successful and exciting!

 

[hoophuskee]

You made a good point. I can envision Liv morphing into the 'Bill Russell' of WBB for next season. She has all the tools. And if we surround her with other defensive specialists - Aubrey, Mir, Paige & Aaliyah - we can generate terrific offense via steals, in transition and by pounding the glass. Unstoppable!
We should do this because we've already proven that we don't have any offensive stars on our roster, at least not in the big games. When John Wooden adopted this defensive philosophy at UCLA they were successful and exciting!

Nothing I agree with you on here. Nothing. You're just a fan of old style basketball that I'm glad Geno has done away with a long time ago. But you can keep hoping but imo nothing you're saying is what any Div 1 coach would do. Have a good night!

 

[hoophuskee]

While your 3/4 press lineup may be short on shooters, if they can generate TO's they can score in transition. Not as a primary lineup but against the right opponent they can be a majorly disruptive force for 5 minutes of play a couple of times a game. And if Bueckers, whose quickness and length fits a pressing style, is passing to them their effectiveness is enhanced.

This lineup in their frosh year would never work only vs the worst of teams. Years ago Dean SMith used to put in a complete new 2nd team for a stretch and one year he was playing Indiana and Knight's team crushed the 2nd unit for however long Smith kept them in which cost NC the game. I think he stopped it shortly thereafter.

There is no way vs a decent team unless it's a blowout you would risk putting that lineup in with 3 frosh, 1 soph and 1 jr. There is an assumption "you would steal the ball." But when you press you can also get whooped by good passing teams with good guard play. There is no way you are going to keep your better players like Walker, CW AM and Westbrook all on the bench and risk this type of pressing team that would have a horrendous halfcourt set.

This lineup completely disregards fundamental offensive basketball and even what a triple threat is. You have one player on the team as a triple threat as of right now. SO Geno is going to cash in his offensive flow coaching style that he pushes so much and instead throw all of his chips in on 5 minutes of a predominant freshmen / soph pressing lineup?

You think Geno is just going to give up his attempt to have his team run an offensive flow - and play his lesser talented players so he can press? This is a proposal that someone would make (not just jingo) who has over-inflated view of defense vs minimal respect for offense. Walker was just projected a few weeks ago if she left to be 8th in the draft. Westbrook was a good player. Anna has outplayed AUbrey overall. Cwill's frosh year was superior to Aubrey's this year. All this is going to be dumped for 5 minutes of pressure rather than continually work on offensive flow? It won't happen.

Geno is looking for offensive flow. This lineup breaks the flow. Secondly, you aren't going to risk a game with most of your stars on the bench. Third, Kiss Azzii fudd and any terrific high school scorer's future commits goodbye with something like this. They'll say "If Geno isn;t going to stick with me - then I'm not going to risk going there and play behind someone that I know I'm better than." You can't use these South Florida games as a barometer and think a lineup with such limited offensive skill is going to work vs the better teams with good guards. Very good guard play should overall defeat an aggressive press. And I'm thankful Geno believes in 3pt shooting. This lineup would be extremely limited. There is no reason to intentionally limit the lineup.

 

[Jingo]

Nothing I agree with you on here. Nothing. You're just a fan of old style basketball that I'm glad Geno has done away with a long time ago. But you can keep hoping but imo nothing you're saying is what any Div 1 coach would do. Have a good night!

"night...

 

[Sluconn Husky]

2/16

Shay Bollin: 15 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists

 

[Sluconn Husky]

2/16

Azzi Fudd scored 20 points today including this late three:

Fudd had 7 assists as well.

 

[HopJim]

Defense won today's game vs USF .. Aubrey, Liv & Danger .. we should prioritise defense & rebounding for next year: Liv, Aubrey, Mir, Paige & Aaliyah are my starters! that's eggzackly how the Celtics won all those titles, isn't that so?

Celts won most of their titles with Bill Russell controlling the bucket and KC Jones a shut down guard. This was before the 3 pointer so while I would love to see a dominate center, the game has evolved to players like Stewie who do it all. Even MoJeff, one of the most dominate defensive guards ever, could score consistently. Once Paige was doubled, who would score on your team?

 

[HopJim]

"night...

By the way, while I disagreed with your ideas on next year's starters, I enjoyed the post. Creative thoughts like these make this one of the better sports blogs out there.

 

[PacoSwede]

please keep on topic (this is interesting stuff, but it would get more attention on from the whole BY on its own thread ... and NOT gum up this one)

 

[Jingo]

Celts won most of their titles with Bill Russell controlling the bucket and KC Jones a shut down guard. This was before the 3 pointer so while I would love to see a dominate center, the game has evolved to players like Stewie who do it all. Even MoJeff, one of the most dominate defensive guards ever, could score consistently. Once Paige was doubled, who would score on your team?

First of all, the lineup I proposed - Liv, Aubrey, Mir, Paige & Aaliyah - all scored bigly in high school, one of the reasons they were heavily recruited. Pls don't tell me that CW&MW are big-time scorers after their showing in the SC, Baylor & Oregon games, that ship has sailed.
I can clearly envision Griff & Mir et al defending out to the arc [and beyond] rendering the 3-point-shot moot, with Bill Russell [Liv] protecting the paint like Stewie did.
Offense will be large via numerous steals and traps resulting in transition baskets and our half-court game will be heavily augmented by pounding the glass with our quick leapers.
The PLAN: Score 60 points; hold the opposition to 40. Game over!

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Some Poffenbarger highlights from her last two games below:

https://vg.hudl.com/p-highlights/Team/78255/5e490442e97adf0868725319/4cf5409b_720.mp4?v=F385DBFEBEB2D708

https://vg.hudl.com/p-highlights/Team/78255/5e4900eab0195717404a6ea2/6dcc4f92_720.mp4?v=6187B13AC4B2D708

 

[Alydar]

Celts won most of their titles with Bill Russell controlling the bucket and KC Jones a shut down guard. This was before the 3 pointer so while I would love to see a dominate center, the game has evolved to players like Stewie who do it all. Even MoJeff, one of the most dominate defensive guards ever, could score consistently. Once Paige was doubled, who would score on your team?

Anyone who enjoys uptempo basketball has Red Auerbach to thank. The Celtics' game revolved around defense and a fast break when the rest of the league had just transitioned out of set shots and offense was 90% half court. The Celtics' defense was designed to force guards down the middle where Russell was waiting. The bulk of their scoring came in transition. Their fast break got down the court before the defense had a chance to set up, again, much like UConn has done for years.

 

[Jingo]

Anyone who enjoys uptempo basketball has Red Auerbach to thank. The Celtics' game revolved around defense and a fast break when the rest of the league had just transitioned out of set shots and offense was 90% half court. The Celtics' defense was designed to force guards down the middle where Russell was waiting. The bulk of their scoring came in transition. Their fast break got down the court before the defense had a chance to set up, again, much like UConn has done for years.

Next season, the Huskies have the tools to reprise the Celtics scheme with Bill Russell [Liv] and a slew of lockdown KC Joneses [most notably ultra athletic Griff&Mir] .. lookin' good!

 

[Alydar]

This lineup in their frosh year would never work only vs the worst of teams. Years ago Dean SMith used to put in a complete new 2nd team for a stretch and one year he was playing Indiana and Knight's team crushed the 2nd unit for however long Smith kept them in which cost NC the game. I think he stopped it shortly thereafter.

There is no way vs a decent team unless it's a blowout you would risk putting that lineup in with 3 frosh, 1 soph and 1 jr. There is an assumption "you would steal the ball." But when you press you can also get whooped by good passing teams with good guard play. There is no way you are going to keep your better players like Walker, CW AM and Westbrook all on the bench and risk this type of pressing team that would have a horrendous halfcourt set.

This lineup completely disregards fundamental offensive basketball and even what a triple threat is. You have one player on the team as a triple threat as of right now. SO Geno is going to cash in his offensive flow coaching style that he pushes so much and instead throw all of his chips in on 5 minutes of a predominant freshmen / soph pressing lineup?

You think Geno is just going to give up his attempt to have his team run an offensive flow - and play his lesser talented players so he can press? This is a proposal that someone would make (not just jingo) who has over-inflated view of defense vs minimal respect for offense. Walker was just projected a few weeks ago if she left to be 8th in the draft. Westbrook was a good player. Anna has outplayed AUbrey overall. Cwill's frosh year was superior to Aubrey's this year. All this is going to be dumped for 5 minutes of pressure rather than continually work on offensive flow? It won't happen.

Geno is looking for offensive flow. This lineup breaks the flow. Secondly, you aren't going to risk a game with most of your stars on the bench. Third, Kiss Azzii fudd and any terrific high school scorer's future commits goodbye with something like this. They'll say "If Geno isn;t going to stick with me - then I'm not going to risk going there and play behind someone that I know I'm better than." You can't use these South Florida games as a barometer and think a lineup with such limited offensive skill is going to work vs the better teams with good guards. Very good guard play should overall defeat an aggressive press. And I'm thankful Geno believes in 3pt shooting. This lineup would be extremely limited. There is no reason to intentionally limit the lineup.

You make a lot of good points. I am not suggesting that in every game Geno employ what I have said nor am I saying that should be "the lineup". I agree that star players would go elsewhere. I don't state that this is going to be the "New UConn style of play". While I enjoyed watching Rutgers stymie less talented teams with their press I agree, like Geno has stated, that good guards/passers can break any press. But there are a limited number of good guards in college and on many teams there is but one, who is going to expend a lot of energy defeating that press. Tired guards miss shots in the second half.
There are going to games next year when ONO picks up a second foul midway through the second period. With Westbrook, Bueckers and Griffin already on the court Geno can pull ONO and the 5th player and insert McClean and Edwards or Muhl and press/trap a team that is usually tired and likely to make mistakes that lead to easy transition baskets.
It isn't as if Geno hasn't done this before.

 

[JS]

please keep on topic (this is interesting stuff, but it would get more attention on from the whole BY on its own thread ... and NOT gum up this one)

I agree. PLEASE put your thoughts on matters other than UConn recruiting elsewhere.

Fair warning. Don't want to start deleting posts into which people have put thought and effort, so kindly stay on the thread topic.

Thanks.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

2/17

Ashlon Jackson: 19 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists

Azzi Fudd: 25 points

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Found this video from December of 2018:

 

[Sluconn Husky]

Hopkins' game will be streamed tonight at 7:00 central.

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[eebmg]

Hopkins' game will be streamed tonight at 7:00 central.

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So this is the rematch when STMA gave Hopkins everything they can handle with unconscious 3pt shooting.





In their home court now.

 

[BobbyJ]

Found this video from December of 2018:

The footwork and body control for a HS sophomore post player is tremendous. Actually for a college sophomore too.

 

[HuskylnSC]

In an aside, from their logo I would guess that Huntington Beach teams are the Oilers. I wonder how many protests that has led to in environmentally-conscious California?

They are the Essential Oilers so its all PC.

 

[Alydar]

They are the Essential Oilers so its all PC.

LOL A lot better than "The Notorious Polluters"

 

[DEpup]

The footwork and body control for a HS sophomore post player is tremendous. Actually for a college sophomore too.

I'm trying not to get too excited until I get more of a feeling that she is willing to leave the left coast for college.