Facey's Presence in the Mix

[Huskyforlife]

Facey is not a short PF, and Jeff and KFree were not as tall as Facey is and neither were 'stretch' 4s. the whole concept of being a stretch 4 comes from the player's skillset, not their size.

i'd say that 6'8 is short for pf

 

[FfldCntyFan]

i'd say that 6'8 is short for pf

Who was our PF when we won it all in 2011? How did he compare physically to Facey? My guess is same height, Facey a few pounds heavier (but Kelis Fisher likely wont heave a 90 foot shot with 10 seconds left).

 

[tcf15]

i'd say that 6'8 is short for pf

Then you are going by NBA standards. 6'8" is the typical size for a college power forward.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Who was our PF when we won it all in 2011? How did he compare physically to Facey? My guess is same height, Facey a few pounds heavier (but Kelis Fisher likely wont heave a 90 foot shot with 10 seconds left).

this team doesn't have kemba. but he won't be starting anyway so this argument is kinda irrelevant. im not saying hes a bad player, but right now hes small for a pf

 

[joober jones]

napier samuel
boatright kromah
calhoun giffy tolksdorf
daniels facey
nolan olander brima

thats most likely the depth chart

Sounds reasonable to me. I think we're all more concerned with whether or not Giffey starts than Giffey is concerned with the matter himself. Whether he does it as a starter or as our 6th man, he'll bring the same all-out effort and do all the little things that make for wins. From all appearances, he doesn't seem to be an ego guy at all and I think he cares more about playing well and contributing to a W than he does about being on the court when the jump ball is thrown.

 

[aceboon]

i'd say that 6'8 is short for pf

you're watching a different version of college basketball than I am

 

[joober jones]

you're watching a different version of college basketball than I am

Adrien, though listed at 6'7'' is actually only 6'5'' and didn't perform too poorly as a PF.

 

[Huskyforlife]

you're watching a different version of college basketball than I am

its not just the height, thought i read somewhere he was not even 200 lbs. im just saying if we are concerned about being to small facey is not going to help with that. however i still think he will be a great player for us no matter what position he plays

 

[Huskyforlife]

Sounds reasonable to me. I think we're all more concerned with whether or not Giffey starts than Giffey is concerned with the matter himself. Whether he does it as a starter or as our 6th man, he'll bring the same all-out effort and do all the little things that make for wins. From all appearances, he doesn't seem to be an ego guy at all and I think he cares more about playing well and contributing to a W than he does about being on the court when the jump ball is thrown.

i hope giffy starts, i just don't think he will going in to the season, could earn it by the end though. He's my favorite player on the team besides bazz

 

[CL82]

I can see Facey getting situational time at the 5. KO is emphasizing speed, he may give up size to get that is some situations. I can't wait to watch this team this year. We're in for some entertaining basketball.

 

[Tenspro2002]

The issue isn't that Facey is under-sized for a 4 in college.

The issue is that Facey is likely under-sized for a 5 in college, but might be under-skilled for a 4 (depending on how Ollie wants to play his lineup). He could have trouble finding a role. That's the concern.

 

[Goat]

The issue isn't that Facey is under-sized for a 4 in college.

The issue is that Facey is likely under-sized for a 5 in college, but might be under-skilled for a 4 (depending on how Ollie wants to play his lineup). He could have trouble finding a role. That's the concern.

Ollie is not playing traditional combinations and I don't think there is a back to the basket 5 on the team. That said, Facey was not the 5 for the 2012 LI Lutheran H S program. He was a forward.

 

[tentoes4rings]

i'd say that 6'8 is short for pf

Some guy named Freeman was 6'6" and that seemed to work out okay.

 

[aceboon]

Ollie is not playing traditional combinations and I don't think there is a back to the basket 5 on the team. That said, Facey was not the 5 for the 2012 LI Lutheran H S program. He was a forward.

nah he played the 5, he was the tallest player on the team and the rest were guards who jacked up shots.

 

[aceboon]

its not just the height, thought i read somewhere he was not even 200 lbs. im just saying if we are concerned about being to small facey is not going to help with that. however i still think he will be a great player for us no matter what position he plays

if DeAndre just cleared the 200lb mark as has been reported I'd be shocked if Facey isn't over 200 because he has considerably more muscle definition in his upper body while being about the same height. he's a lil bit before your time but Gurleyman brought up a pretty good comparison in Marcus White, he has a similar body type and game as Facey, wouldn't surprise me if he fills the same kind of role that White did his freshman year.

 

[Goat]

nah he played the 5, he was the tallest player on the team and the rest were guards who jacked up shots.

Mr. Boon - I would not make a statement that was not clearly an opinion without a source. I do agree that Facey seemed to be the tallest player on his team, but Li Lu is a successful program and the 6' 7" center was a beast, not a "guard who jacked up shots."
https://secure.timesunion.com/ASPStories/Story.asp?storyID=1128316&newsdate=2/6/2012&BCCode=MBTA
"After a seesaw contest that featured nine lead changes and seven ties, Long Island Lutheran took control with superior work in the paint — led by the combination of 6-foot-7 senior center Ryan DiNicola, 6-9 junior forward Kentan Facey and 6-3 junior forward K.J. Lee. The trio combined for 48 points and 34 rebounds, including 20 points and 21 boards by DiNicola."

 

[Palatine]

i'd say that 6'8 is short for pf

You would be wrong if you said that.

You would be very wrong if you said it Charles Barkley's face.

 

[sledog]

Ah yes. Marcy White: 'never met a rebound he didn't like.'

 

[aceboon]

Mr. Boon - I would not make a statement that was not clearly an opinion without a source. I do agree that Facey seemed to be the tallest player on his team, but Li Lu is a successful program and the 6' 7" center was a beast, not a "guard who jacked up shots."
https://secure.timesunion.com/ASPStories/Story.asp?storyID=1128316&newsdate=2/6/2012&BCCode=MBTA
"After a seesaw contest that featured nine lead changes and seven ties, Long Island Lutheran took control with superior work in the paint — led by the combination of 6-foot-7 senior center Ryan DiNicola, 6-9 junior forward Kentan Facey and 6-3 junior forward K.J. Lee. The trio combined for 48 points and 34 rebounds, including 20 points and 21 boards by DiNicola."

the link you posted was from his jr season, not his sr season. between sny and msgvarsity, Facey was on tv/online about 5 times, he was most definitely their C.

edit, I now see you said 2012 season, understood. I was referring to his sr season, bad reading on my part.

 

[Dogbreath2U]

Using the "eye test," Kentan does resemble Deandre in overall size. Probably a little bit heavier, but not a lot. Both are definitely on the slender side and likely to get knocked around inside by heavier players.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Some guy named Freeman was 6'6" and that seemed to work out okay.

yea but not everyone is freeman

You would be wrong if you said that.

You would be very wrong if you said it Charles Barkley's face.

barkley is an all time great, i didn't realise facey was a barkley clone

 

[Marty Jackson]

Until we see all these guys and the various permutations of personnel combinations on the floor against real competition, we won't have any idea where we actually stand. But there's no question that we stand in a better place with Facey than without him.

spot on... these are the types of problems coaches like to deal with.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

The issue isn't that Facey is under-sized for a 4 in college.

The issue is that Facey is likely under-sized for a 5 in college, but might be under-skilled for a 4 (depending on how Ollie wants to play his lineup). He could have trouble finding a role. That's the concern.

Where do you guys come up with this stuff? That's the concern for who?

 

[Gurleyman]

yea but not everyone is freeman
barkley is an all time great, i didn't realise facey was a barkley clone

The larger point is that we're over analyzing this. Free was too small to be an ideal 4, Boone wasn't skilled enough, Adrien was too short, and Roscoe wasn't big enough. The one 4 they all have in common is the Final one.

If you can play, you can play. Our first NC team didn't have a prototype anything - a stocky PG, a shooting guard who couldn't shoot, a 3 who was too skinny, an undersized 4 and a 5 with no back to the basket game at all.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

yea but not everyone is freeman
barkley is an all time great, i didn't realise facey was a barkley clone

The point you don't seem to get is that you're not a "stretch 4" just because someone thinks you're not as big as a traditional power forward. Your skill set determines whether or not you're a stretch 4. Dirk is 7 feet tall for ***** sake.

 

[BUConn10]

I saw Facey at the bar with Brimah last night (go figure, both probably 18) and Facey was only an inch or so shorter than Brimah. I was a little bit intoxicated so I dont know if that means Facey is tall or if Brimah is shorter than advertised, but Im gonna go with option A.

 

[mauconnfan]

I saw Facey at the bar with Brimah last night (go figure, both probably 18) and Facey was only an inch or so shorter than Brimah. I was a little bit intoxicated so I dont know if that means Facey is tall or if Brimah is shorter than advertised, but Im gonna go with option A.

That's what it looked like when they were on the side during First Night to me......

Where was this "Huskies"?

I have always seen the players at the bar after games in the past also dating back to Ray Ray..........

 

[Huskyforlife]

The larger point is that we're over analyzing this. Free was too small to be an ideal 4, Boone wasn't skilled enough, Adrien was too short, and Roscoe wasn't big enough. The one 4 they all have in common is the Final one.

If you can play, you can play. Our first NC team didn't have a prototype anything - a stocky PG, a shooting guard who couldn't shoot, a 3 who was too skinny, an undersized 4 and a 5 with no back to the basket game at all.

this^

 

[uconnfan68]

Mr. Boon - I would not make a statement that was not clearly an opinion without a source. I do agree that Facey seemed to be the tallest player on his team, but Li Lu is a successful program and the 6' 7" center was a beast, not a "guard who jacked up shots."
https://secure.timesunion.com/ASPStories/Story.asp?storyID=1128316&newsdate=2/6/2012&BCCode=MBTA
"After a seesaw contest that featured nine lead changes and seven ties, Long Island Lutheran took control with superior work in the paint — led by the combination of 6-foot-7 senior center Ryan DiNicola, 6-9 junior forward Kentan Facey and 6-3 junior forward K.J. Lee. The trio combined for 48 points and 34 rebounds, including 20 points and 21 boards by DiNicola."

ok, but this wasn't last year, it was 2 years ago.

 

[B1GEast]

With Facey, this team now has tremendous depth, KO's going to have a lot of fun. This will be a season to remember.