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Enoch is transferring

KSC94 said:
Some guys on the URI forum have heard he'll end up at URI or PC. Personally I could definitely see him at PC. They have a lot of depth next year while he'll sit out and then he'd be a 2 year starter for a local team in the NBE
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PC is adding 6'11" and 6' 10" players next year as freshman to go along with a 6'9" player who was a freshman this year. Not sure where he would fit.
 
Jaker said:
I would not be surprised if Enoch actually reconsiders. As other posters have mentioned, he may have limited options presented to him by other schools. If he works hard this summer, he would probably get quality minutes from Ollie next season.
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Yeah, I saw a tweet by Don Amore (maybe not actually sure) but it said that "the official word is that there is no official word on Steven Enoch" there was something else around the end of it that he might reconsider and was still weighing his options or something like that. Couldn't find the tweet so maybe it was deleted or something, but definitely saw it!
 
I think Enoch will draw a surprising amount of interest from mid-tier p5 programs and upper tier mid-majors. He's a tricky case study because there is such a dichotomy between his current production level and his potential. From a production standpoint, he's rated out as a below replacement level D-1 player through his first two years. Terribly inefficient from the field, poor rebounder, zero ball skills, and one of the worst defensive players you'll ever see. This kid doesn't get off the bench at most America East schools based on his play through two seasons.

But all the measurables are there, and given how young he is, there is still a lot to be enticed by. I've mentioned Creighton as a potential landing spot before - it wouldn't shock me to see a sharp offensive mind like Greg McDermott heavy on the phones. There are a lot of different ways a kid like Enoch can be utilized - he has the body and agility to be a killer dribble-hand-off guy and as a screener in general he's capable of things you can't teach. I don't think he's ever going to be great defensively just because his instincts are so poor, but you can hide a guy easier at the college level with zones and stuff. Give him a red-shirt year to prepare and he could be the second half of some teams platoon by 2018.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
This is flat out insane.
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Rod didn't have any post moves. At first I thought the post was a joke. Which part did you find insane, the claim that Enoch had good moves or the claim that Sellers did, or both?
 
businesslawyer said:
Does Providence want him? Why? I know him leaving unexpectedly leaves us in the lurch, and I know he looks like he should have potential, but his first two years of actual play were so far beneath a Tyler Olander or a Phil Nolan that I have trouble seeing a major conference team wanting him.
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His father mentioned the "UConn system" not being a good fit for his son. Regardless of whether there is truth to that comment Enoch is a stock I am buying low and selling HIGH. It would not surprise me to see a Justin Patton type of season for Steve after sitting out a year. Patton was not on the radar of anyone (except me :)) heading the season. As I vet every roster for undervalued teams. Ironically Patton's stat line was 12/6 similar to what the pez (fish in spanish) mentioned. I think this is reasonable and his senior year could be a 16/9 guy.

I remember going to a practice and watching Steve get on the court 45 minutes early before anyone else and shoot by himself until a manager joined him. He just needs the right direction. I believe in this kid.

JMHO...
 
FriarJ said:
PC is adding 6'11" and 6' 10" players next year as freshman to go along with a 6'9" player who was a freshman this year. Not sure where he would fit.
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Providence tends to have player retention issues. There'd be plenty of room for him.
 
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champs99and04 said:
I think Enoch will draw a surprising amount of interest from mid-tier p5 programs and upper tier mid-majors. He's a tricky case study because there is such a dichotomy between his current production level and his potential. From a production standpoint, he's rated out as a below replacement level D-1 player through his first two years. Terribly inefficient from the field, poor rebounder, zero ball skills, and one of the worst defensive players you'll ever see. This kid doesn't get off the bench at most America East schools based on his play through two seasons.

But all the measurables are there, and given how young he is, there is still a lot to be enticed by. I've mentioned Creighton as a potential landing spot before - it wouldn't shock me to see a sharp offensive mind like Greg McDermott heavy on the phones. There are a lot of different ways a kid like Enoch can be utilized - he has the body and agility to be a killer dribble-hand-off guy and as a screener in general he's capable of things you can't teach. I don't think he's ever going to be great defensively just because his instincts are so poor, but you can hide a guy easier at the college level with zones and stuff. Give him a red-shirt year to prepare and he could be the second half of some teams platoon by 2018.
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I didn't read your other posts but I am sure you mentioned Justin P.

It looks like he may enter the draft.
 
Enoch getting dumped on for what he didn't do in his 12 minutes a game. Of course we're pretty rock solid in the 5 position but if we weren't there could be some blowback as early as say.........October?
 
jibsey said:
Enoch getting dumped on for what he didn't do in his 12 minutes a game. Of course we're pretty rock solid in the 5 position but if we weren't there could be some blowback as early as say....October?
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I am in the minority here but look at it as the kid went bankrupt as a player at UConn and will get his fresh start somewhere else. With that fresh start and new management he grows and prospers. The physical attributes are all there. You can not teach that. I am buying his untapped potential.
 
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BLUEDOGHOUSE said:
I am in the minority here but look at it as the kid went bankrupt as a player at UConn and will get his fresh start somewhere else. With that fresh start and new management he grows and prospers. The physical attributes are all there. You can not teach that. I am buying his untapped potential.
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That's actually a great way to look at it. And in quite a few cases, an accurate one.
 
Wish him the best of luck, but we were committed to tossing the ball to Brimah on the block 5 or 6 times a game even with terrible results. It's a shame Enoch didn't see that and think "man this is really going to work for me."

Also worth noting that our best run of form last season was the 3 weeks when Facey was a legit post threat, so I kind of reject the notion that we run a guard-centric system. If we'd had better big men, we'd have gone to the post a TON more than we already did. Oh well.
 
Wish the young man nothing but the best, and I'd rather have him than not next year because I don't know that we have a better option.

But do I stick with my looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane analysis? That would be totally fair even if he was coming back to UConn.
 
businesslawyer said:
Wish the young man nothing but the best, and I'd rather have him than not next year because I don't know that we have a better option.

But do I stick with my looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane analysis? That would be totally fair even if he was coming back to UConn.
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Kinda like the legal term:

Res judicata "a matter (already) judged..."

Fair enough time will tell.
 
I was thinking what about Seton Hall? Delgado on the fence about declaring. If he stays he bangs against Delgado for a year and then moves in after he leaves??
 
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dennismenace said:
This is an interesting exchange. 1964 Dodgers (Koufax and Drysdale) beat the vaunted NY Yankees offense
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1963.

In 1964, the Yankees lost to the Cardinals (and then fired Yogi Berra to hire the Cardinals' manager) in their last World Series until 1976
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I hope it works out well for him, wish he had stayed. If playing time was the issue, I wonder when he raised it? I noticed that late in the year, Ollie stopped splitting time between Durham and Enoch, and Enoch got almost all the minutes as reserve C. I found that a bit odd, because, if anything, I saw a bit more in Durham's overall game.
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Noticed that too. His father must have been complaining. When you look back UCONN did a lot for Enoch. They got him on the Armenian National Team and they him gave him minutes that Durham should have gotten. I thought that after having that international experience he would improved the way Giffey did.
FWIW
2016-17 UConn Huskies Roster and Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
- Enoch had the lowest Offensive rating on the team by far.
- Had the lowest win shares per 4o minutes.
- His offensive box plus or minus (-6.1 it should be positive) was the lowest on the team
Statistically he was a below average player and least productive player on the team.
 
Fishy said:
Providence tends to have player retention issues. There'd be plenty of room for him.
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All schools have player retention issues. Every single one. Except maybe Ivy League Schools.
 
Go_Huskies said:
Noticed that too. His father must have been complaining. When you look back UCONN did a lot for Enoch. They got him on the Armenian National Team and they him gave him minutes that Durham should have gotten. I thought that after having that international experience he would improved the way Giffey did..
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'Could' have gotten. Not 'should' have gotten. Having Durham play less minutes was a good idea. The number 1 goal for JD this year was to not get injured while dipping his toe in the water, by far. After having a couple years off from Bball, playing less minutes was ideal. I don't think it would have helped his development appreciably to get more minutes this year -> too tentative, reaction time subpar, getting his legs under him, etc etc
 
Want to take the high road, but this move really annoys me.

When's the last time we've had a Connecticut HS grad play out 4 years at UConn? Austrie?
 
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