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Well there goes the Dave Benedict is MIA theory. Another boneyard rumor proven to be bullcrap.

Dave has been looking to jump ship ever since he got here. Whether or not he showed up at a gala has no bearing on that.
 
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It's too early to fully judge Edsall's recruits. Lets not forget that players like Byron Jones, Scott Lutrus, Blidi, Gratz, Kendall Reyes all redshirted before playing, it takes time. Obviously we could make that redshirt list much bigger.
Are you edsall?
 

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Just fire crocker and let one of the players call the defense.....can't get any worse
Here’s the thing that I can’t reconcile. Crocker had one of the best defenses in FCS. Did he become stupid all of a sudden? Did Andy Talley call all of defensive plays and Crocker just wore a headset? Has Edsall totally handcuffed him? All of the above? I don’t get it. Hate to make a change, because we have gone through so much leadership and scheme change. We need to invest in a someone that can coach and as important, RECRUIT.
 
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Here’s the thing that I can’t reconcile. Crocker had one of the best defenses in FCS. Did he become stupid all of a sudden? Did Andy Talley call all of defensive plays and Crocker just wore a headset? Has Edsall totally handcuffed him? All of the above? I don’t get it. Hate to make a change, because we have gone through so much leadership and scheme change. We need to invest in a someone that can coach and as important, RECRUIT.

I’m hearing Edsall is calling the defensive plays.. not Crocker. .
 

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Here’s the thing that I can’t reconcile. Crocker had one of the best defenses in FCS. Did he become stupid all of a sudden? Did Andy Talley call all of defensive plays and Crocker just wore a headset? Has Edsall totally handcuffed him? All of the above? I don’t get it. Hate to make a change, because we have gone through so much leadership and scheme change. We need to invest in a someone that can coach and as important, RECRUIT.

I've been giving this a lot of thought lately. Here's my two cents:

In many sports, some coaches are system coaches, requiring the appropriate personnel to carry out a scheme. Others fit schemes to what they have, with varying success.

I have little doubt that if we had two "lock down" corners, that Crocker would be able to do a great job. But then again, if we had two lock down corners, ANYONE would do a great job! We're paying the DC to do exactly that; to coordinate! Look at what you have and make it work better.

If Edsall is interfering, then it's in Crocker's best interest to make that known somehow. But at some point, he has to take responsibility for the worst NCAA defense of all time, and I don't want to hear about personnel when it's THIS bad...
 

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They have 30 RS Seniors on the roster - mostly JUCO. I think they graduate 35 kids this year. The way Bill Clark put the team together and resuscitated the program is impressive.

We need to take a page out of that book and recruit JUCO kids hard. None of this character nonsense. Anyone who is in juco for a nonviolent crime should be fair game for admissions. We could use at least 5 juco bodies on D
 

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Someone has to be held accountable for 2018's defense. The worst defense of all-time can't be tolerated.
 

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And it's getting more and more absurd" - Elton John (B. Taupin)
 
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You can believe what Randy believes- but you cannot say it publicly. Have some tact. Good lord.

Seriously, if this fool came knocking on your door to recruit you, would you invite him in the door, let alone listen to him? With all of his regular, weekly blame and garbage that fills social media and the press, what HS coach is going to expose one of his better players to this type of crap?

There are plenty of other opportunities at all levels. Did anyone watch that Army v Colgate game yesterday? Both extremely well coached with aggressive, talented, smart and disciplined players.
 

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I was a big Edsall guy, hated how he left, but was optimistic about his return.

The past two seasons have been disastrous and even the most pessimistic fans (self included) didn't see us being this bad.

I still think Edsall can turn the tide, but how much longer can we stand to be this inept?

And maybe just maybe, for once in his life Edsall could just say, "I haven't coached this team well enough". As opposed to blaming it on the kids out there getting embarrassed weekly.
 

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If our recruiting territory is so barren, then how is Temple managing to find players who can compete and win in the AAC? They're essentially in the same recruiting territory we're in.
Temple, Pitt, Cuse, BC, Penn St... look at the seasons these schools are having. They aren’t losing to horrible teams by 30-40 points.
 
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I was a big Edsall guy, hated how he left, but was optimistic about his return.

The past two seasons have been disastrous and even the most pessimistic fans (self included) didn't see us being this bad.

I still think Edsall can turn the tide, but how much longer can we stand to be this inept?

And maybe just maybe, for once in his life Edsall could just say, "I haven't coached this team well enough". As opposed to blaming it on the kids out there getting embarrassed weekly.
This is a team filled entirely of players with small hands. You simply cannot blame the Randy for that. They need time to grow bigger hands.
 

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We are absolutely the worst team in the country. We might be the worst FBS team ever. And yet, if the weather is decent, there will likely be 10K-15K actual living and breathing fans in the stands to watch us lose to Temple 60-something to 20-something. You put this roster (after 8 seasons of losing) in front of every NCAAF fanbase in the country and I doubt many would considerably outdraw UConn.

I always remember Calhoun's comments about UConn fans after he was hired from Northeastern. Always said that taking the UConn job appealed to him because no matter how bad UConn teams were - and there were plenty of bad teams pre-Calhoun - that the arena was still full or close to being full. And while 10K-15K fans in a 40K stadium is not good on a grand scale, it is truly impressive considering just how awful of a product that takes the field week in and week out.

Seriously, I wonder how many fans Alabama or Ohio State or Penn State or USC or Florida or anyone would draw if they were 1-10 and give up 700 yards / 50-60 points a game and lose by at least 4-5 touchdowns every week.

I really hope AD Dave and the UConn BoT and the incoming school President see this and finally make a commitment to properly funding football. There is zero excuse to be dead last in the AAC funding football for a school/brand as big as UConn.
 

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The bottom line is, Randy knows he is in a no-accountability situation. The President is on her way out and the AD doesn't give a hoot. Funding his buyout and paying a replacement's salary are both dicey propositions. Sadly, his job security has nothing to do with the usual things like performance, attitude, or salesmanship ability that normally determine whether a coach remains a coach. He's grinning like a Cheshire cat and laughing all the way to the bank.
 
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Exactly, blaming P and Diaco’s recruits would have more standing if Randy was recruiting well. Crocker recruited 6-7 defensive backs and you see the results.

How do you know if randy has recruited well yet? This is his first full class. Are you judging them based off of their first year?
 
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I've been giving this a lot of thought lately. Here's my two cents:

In many sports, some coaches are system coaches, requiring the appropriate personnel to carry out a scheme. Others fit schemes to what they have, with varying success.

I have little doubt that if we had two "lock down" corners, that Crocker would be able to do a great job. But then again, if we had two lock down corners, ANYONE would do a great job! We're paying the DC to do exactly that; to coordinate! Look at what you have and make it work better.

If Edsall is interfering, then it's in Crocker's best interest to make that known somehow. But at some point, he has to take responsibility for the worst NCAA defense of all time, and I don't want to hear about personnel when it's THIS bad...

We don’t need two lockdown corners, we need a solid front 7 with a pass rusher or two. It doesn’t matter if you are an all American cornerback, if the opposing qb has 5 seconds to throw with no pressure, the receiver is getting open.
 
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I honestly can't believe the people who say they were optimistic on Edsall's return.

Again, I ask you, did you see what he did when he had Skip Holtz's players his first years at UConn in the YANKEE Conference?

When David Benedict signed up for the combo of Edsall with Bob Diaco's recruits he signed up for 4-5 years of some of the worst football you will ever see in your life. Maybe longer than 4-5 years. And the ceiling for this? Mediocrity. And the cherry on top? Edsall's excuses.

All of this was predictable if you had access to the internet.
 
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You can believe what Randy believes- but you cannot say it publicly. Have some tact. Good lord.

It’s funny over on the basketball board we are killing boeheim for essentially saying the same things and what kid would want to hear their coach saying they are soft
 
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Here’s the thing that I can’t reconcile. Crocker had one of the best defenses in FCS. Did he become stupid all of a sudden? Did Andy Talley call all of defensive plays and Crocker just wore a headset? Has Edsall totally handcuffed him? All of the above? I don’t get it. Hate to make a change, because we have gone through so much leadership and scheme change. We need to invest in a someone that can coach and as important, RECRUIT.
Right now no defensive coach is going to prevent them from getting literally mauled in the middle. Safeties have no choice but to bite hard play action. Babies on the line with 225, 215, 190lb linebackers. Not with this schedule.
 

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It’s funny over on the basketball board we are killing boeheim for essentially saying the same things and what kid would want to hear their coach saying they are soft

Its worse because, like Boeheim...excuse me, Boheim...its not the first time he's done it. It isnt like the kids haven't heard their coach say they stink 500 times already, whatever motivation it could provide doesn't only kick in on the 501st time.
 
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Seriously, if this fool came knocking on your door to recruit you, would you invite him in the door, let alone listen to him? With all of his regular, weekly blame and garbage that fills social media and the press, what HS coach is going to expose one of his better players to this type of crap?

There are plenty of other opportunities at all levels. Did anyone watch that Army v Colgate game yesterday? Both extremely well coached with aggressive, talented, smart and disciplined players.

And now Army is ranked. Is that due to recruiting?
 

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