Edsall Dumpster Fire, Worse than P or D, by far.

[bigAbruns]

Tell that to South Carolina and Notre Dame

Both of those teams stunk the years we played them anyway

 

[HawkHusky]

Meanwhile frickin Kansas is getting Les frickin Miles...

 

[huskymedic]

I was curious so I looked up UAB's two deep. On defense they start 8 seniors, two JR's and one sophomore. On offense they start 9 seniors and 2 sophomores.

They have 30 RS Seniors on the roster - mostly JUCO. I think they graduate 35 kids this year. The way Bill Clark put the team together and resuscitated the program is impressive.

 

[kemba]

Why is that an u reasonable thing to say? He failed at Maryland, has crushed UConn into the worst D1 program of all time and he doesn’t seem to comprehend what he is doing is wrong for the players

Because he took a team that was FCS into a team that consistently wins 7+ games. Its literally impossible to luck into that

 

[UConnNick]

The bottom line here is that we are trying to run an athletic department that supports three major sports on a G5 budget. Look around the G5, is there any program putting as much money into basketball, both men's and women's, as well has having a competitive FB team. Schools like Kansas and UNC and Duke can do it because they have P5 money pouring in.

UConn has dumped tons of money into basketball because it's what we've always been good at. If that's the route we want to go then it might be time to just commit fully to it and let football go.

We are stuck with RE because we can't afford anyone else. We bought out Diaco, we found a way out of KO's contract, we hired Hurley and are paying him a lot, and Geno is making tons. All the things I listed above should have happened and I'm glad they did. However, it makes it impossible for us to also run a successful FB program, especially in a barren recruiting territory.

I know Dooley had a thread on this but if we are going to put money into football, then it needs to be done right. The past 8 years have been littered with piece meal fixes and bad hires. If this is going to get turned around they need to make one last big push and drop serious money into FB. Problem is, I have no clue where that comes from because they aren't pulling it from bball, and we have no deep pocket donors.....

I just don't see a light at the end of this tunnel. I am a huge football fan of our school and hate the talk of dropping football or dropping down, etc. However, the day of reckoning is quickly approaching where a decision will need to be made.

If our recruiting territory is so barren, then how is Temple managing to find players who can compete and win in the AAC? They're essentially in the same recruiting territory we're in.

 

[Chief00]

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Problem is we played a lot of Edsall’s recruits this year on D and saw nothing from the way they performed that suggests strength and condition will be enough to change the bottomline. To me that is the real alarming issue here. I don’t see any where near enough of randy’s recruits on D showing meaningful upside.

Exactly, blaming P and Diaco’s recruits would have more standing if Randy was recruiting well. Crocker recruited 6-7 defensive backs and you see the results.

 

[Rewster]

If our recruiting territory is so barren, then how is Temple managing to find players who can compete and win in the AAC? They're essentially in the same recruiting territory we're in.

Correct. This is what makes me crazy. Temple, left for dead, now infinitely better than us.

 

[Tdaley]

From what I am seeing on the field it still comes down to speed or a lack thereof. Edsall keeps moving secondary players to linebacker because they are just too slow to play in the secondary at this level. ( Terry, Hahn, Banks, Swenson.) I'm not sure any of the conversions have worked out very well to date. The kids that were recruited to play linebacker appear to be way too slow to play that position at this level. (Gilmartin, Garson who got move to defensive line,). In hindsight, the move of Beavers to defensive end doesn't look that great now. Eli Thomas got hurt and then later suffered the stroke. Gardner has not develop into the player we all hope he would become. We appear to be trying to play defense with only one linebacker ( Sterling) and he is just average player at best.

 

[metsfan2323]

If our recruiting territory is so barren, then how is Temple managing to find players who can compete and win in the AAC? They're essentially in the same recruiting territory we're in.

That's a question for Bob Diaco. Let's see if he answers.

Hey Bob, why was your recruiting for defense so weak?

 

[AndOne]

#REstored

It was a lot more fun when that hashtag triggered excitement. Now it makes people ill and the bat signal is broken.

 

[metsfan2323]

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Exactly, blaming P and Diaco’s recruits would have more standing if Randy was recruiting well. Crocker recruited 6-7 defensive backs and you see the results.

It's too early to fully judge Edsall's recruits. Lets not forget that players like Byron Jones, Scott Lutrus, Blidi, Gratz, Kendall Reyes all redshirted before playing, it takes time. Obviously we could make that redshirt list much bigger.

 

[Marbles90]

It's too early to fully judge Edsall's recruits. Lets not forget that players like Byron Jones, Blidi, Gratz, Kendall Reyes all redshirted before playing, it takes time.

Are you willing to wait 5 years for the team to be competitive?

 

[#1 PA Husky Fan]

I was happy to get Randy back, because if the success that he had here before, which is not debatable. I am shocked at how bad the defense is this year without a glimmer of improvement. This recruiting class will be the tipping point for me. If we don’t have guys that can get it done right now, go get guys that can. I question the recruiting ability of the assistants, especially Crocker. The rubber hits the road on national signing day.

 

[zls44]

I was happy to get Randy back, because if the success that he had here before, which is not debatable. I am shocked at how bad the defense is this year without a glimmer of improvement. This recruiting class will be the tipping point for me. If we don’t have guys that can get it done right now, go get guys that can. I question the recruiting ability of the assistants, especially Crocker. The rubber hits the road on national signing day.

We have seven commits. Seven.

 

[metsfan2323]

Are you willing to wait 5 years for the team to be competitive?

Hell No, but I will wait two more years.

 

[noeynox]

We have seven commits. Seven.

What about the silent commits?

 

[gopher2]

It really sucks going into the off-season of an historically bad year knowing that the next year might even be worse. I am trying to convince myself that even if we go 1-11 next year, which is entirely possible, we will at least be significantly better from a statistical standpoint, with better tackling and speed on defense and closer scores. This year has been far, far worse than I expected and the optimism I felt with RE's return has been badly shaken.

 

[Nostical]

I will not go to another game. And I’ve had season tix on and off since 2000. I’m done.

I get it, it’s easier to support a winning team. But it’s even more important to support it when it’s not.

 

[Redding Husky]

I still believe in HCRE. But he says the guys are slow, small, and lack muscle. So even if they gain experience in two years, they're still going to be miles behind other teams in pure athletic ability. It sounds like we have Division II or Division III athletes.

Aren't there quality recruits out there that would want to start all four years at UConn rather than sit on the bench for three years with a slight possibility of playing senior year at a Top 25 program?

I think we must go with HCRE through 2020, maybe 2021. I have no confidence that we would select a coach better than HCRE if we did replace him. Our track record is abysmal.

 

[RSTuthill]

I guess that could be the only reason to show up to The Rent next Saturday.

There is a game next Saturday? I heard they decided to forfeit to save the expense.

 

[BlueandOG]

Good news? This season ends next week.

Bad news? Has David Benedict sat down and really established a vision for the type of athletic dept. he wants? I have never seen such epic suckage in UConn athletics as I have on Benedict's watch. Across many different programs.

I think Benedict is doing a good job. He got rid of Diaco. He got rid of Ollie. He got us a rock star basketball coach. Edsall is not a superstar. He is a builder. He'll can the DC 5 minutes after the season ends and start working on a replacement. They will get better. Once UCONN is a decent .500 team, Edsall will retire and the position will be more attractive to up and coming head football coaches.

 

[noeynox]

I get it, it’s easier to support a winning team. But it’s even more important to support it when it’s not.

Is it too much to ask to not be worst team the eyes have ever seen. Is asking for some semblance of competency unrealistic?

Nothing explains how bad this defense is. Physical limitations I could understand. But last night an opposing true freshman QB, launched a ball in the air their WR could have fair caught, juggled it, and there was no defender within 10 yards to at least force an incompletion. They had a true freshman walkon wr pee all over them. That was a winless team in conference. Them and Tulsa the next two bottom teams showed we have a ways to go to be on their level. Even the abomination that was Diaco wasn't this bad.

 

[UConnDan97]

It's too early to fully judge Edsall's recruits. Lets not forget that players like Byron Jones, Scott Lutrus, Blidi, Gratz, Kendall Reyes all redshirted before playing, it takes time. Obviously we could make that redshirt list much bigger.

I'm on record as saying that I think many of these freshman and some sophomores are going to be very good players in 2 years.

I'm also on record as asking why on earth we can't be remotely competent on defense with what we've currently got against the likes of Tulsa, ECU, etc. We are giving up record levels of points against horrible teams, seemingly with no for formational adjustments or improvement in techniques.

Something's gotta give here. The idea that the coaching staff has no accountability for another 2 years is laughable, and the season ticket holders are responding...

 

[bigAbruns]

I'm on record as saying that I think many of these freshman and some sophomores are going to be very good players in 2 years.

I'm also on record as asking why on earth we can't be remotely competent on defense with what we've currently got against the likes of Tulsa, ECU, etc. We are giving up record levels of points against horrible teams, seemingly with no for formational adjustments or improvement in techniques.

Something's gotta give here. The idea that the coaching staff has no accountability for another 2 years is laughable, and the season ticket holders are responding...

Just fire crocker and let one of the players call the defense.....can't get any worse

 

[UConnDan97]

Just fire crocker and let one of the players call the defense.....can't get any worse

And donate the salary to inner city youth to attend the games so we'll at least have 20 kids in the stands rooting on this mess...