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I am going out on a limb with this, and just speculating. I will probably get called names by some of the arrogant posters, but I don't care. I am starting to think that dropping Football may not be a bad idea, and just be a basketball school. All those big east catholic schools played bigtime football when I was a kid in the '50's & '60's. They could not compete, could not afford it, and eventually dropped it. Big time FB is a closed club. Uconn will never get in. They will just flounder around on the periphery and loose tons of money. There are only so many quality players coming out of HS each year, and if they are 5 stars they are going to go to one of the long established programs, not Uconn. Furthermore, and here is were I could be dead wrong, but I see football possibly going the way of Roman Gladiator fights by the end of this century. We are all aware of all the talk about brain injuries in football, as well as other life long debilitating injuries. ( I tore my cartilidge in my knee playing HS FB, and still suffer from it. Just had another knee operation a few years ago, and I am almost 70). Football starts in high school. You need your parents permission to play as far as I know. You see where I am going with this? As more brain injury crap comes out, more parents say no, the player pool dwindles, and it is all down hill for the sport of football. Keep in mind I said by the end of the century, not over the next few years. Vermont dropped football, and while they are no BB powerhouse, they manage to put some pretty good teams on the court in BB for a small school from a tiny state. Would like to know what you all think about the future of football for Uconn and the sport in general. Maybe I am dead wrong, I am like I said just speculating.



Stupid post as if you haven't seen the college landscape where football rules. College basketball maketake another hit if they allow kids out of high school to go pro.

Grasshopper you have some learning how collegeg sports works. Plus you don't cut football.
 
How about this? We drop basketball. It’s a bigger dumpster fire than the football team.

Football drives the ship. Not basketball. So get on board.
If football drives the ship, we're sunk. In the Big East, we could be like Villanova is now. Not right away, but eventually. We did it before.
 
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Everything, huh. Thank goodness Rutgers was such a power in football, they secured that Big Ten Invite. And that Syracuse football team was really lighting it up before they got an invite to the ACC. Yep, football has everything to do with conference situation. Zero other factors. Got it.
What are the other factors?
 
How about this? We drop basketball. It’s a bigger dumpster fire than the football team.

Football drives the ship. Not basketball. So get on board.

Not at UConn it doesn't you need to get off that soap box. Basketball is not a bigger dumpster fire than football and never will be. 1 1/2 years does not make it look like the football program has for more years than not. Minus a huge thumping by Oklahoma in a bowl game what have they done? So please don't throw basketball under the bus there would be football at Memorial Stadium (is that the name?) still if it weren't for basketball, women too.
 
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Eh, its not really about winning it all or having 5 star recruits. I like having the football team, and ive enjoyed watching them even though they havent had a winning record in like 7 seasons or something. To me it just makes it even more hype when we do make it. Yeah theyll never win a natty but hey, maybe they can eventually do what UCF just did, or what Houston did a couple years ago (even though we ruined that!)
 
For the B1G invites, it was population density and recruiting.

so lack of support and a bad program talent pool.

Got it. Is either of those going to ever change ? CT is losing population and we will never be a football recruiting hotbed. They are not going to change so why wont we get rejected for same criteria again?
 
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A large part of the basketball program's problems now -and those problems coming in the future- have to do with the conference situation. The conference situation is harming the men's program and will harm the women's program once Geno retires. And the conference situation has everything to do with football.

This is the myth that causes dumb posts like the OPs. The league is not the problem. We won a NC in this league. Cinci and SMU have been successful nearly every year in this league. UCF has improved dramatically in this league, as has Houston.

Rather, the problem with the league (aside from money) is that three of the four teams that were supposed to carry it, UConn, Memphis and Temple...stink instead. We have let down the league, not the other way around.

Look, I don't like this league very much either, but if UConn, WSU, Cinci, Memphis, Temple, Houston and SMU were all playing closer to their historical high points, it would be a very strong basketball league. Top heavy, sure, but the ACC has always been top heavy as well, and the SEC even more so.
 
so lack of support and a bad program talent pool.

Got it. Is either of those going to ever change ? CT is losing population and we will never be a football recruiting hotbed. They are not going to change so why wont we get rejected for same criteria again?
No not lack of support. That would be a secondary thing if anything. Weren’t you on the CR board for a bit there? Population density means most television sets in to which the B1G can beam their network. The B1G is in the tens of millions of Philly, NY, DC, and in-between televisions now.

I don’t think recruiting will change but theoretically UConn could be a gateway in to all New England talent for the B1G (not saying much)
 
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No not lack of support. That would be a secondary thing if anything. Weren’t you on the CR board for a bit there? Population density means most television sets in to which the B1G can beam their network.

I don’t think recruiting will change but theoretically UConn could be a gateway in to all New England talent for the B1G (not saying much)

There are much lower media markets in the B1G than ours.

2. Media market

Hartford/New Haven - 32 Louisville 49
 
No not lack of support. That would be a secondary thing if anything. Weren’t you on the CR board for a bit there? Population density means most television sets in to which the B1G can beam their network. The B1G is in the tens of millions of Philly, NY, DC, and in-between televisions now.

I don’t think recruiting will change but theoretically UConn could be a gateway in to all New England talent for the B1G (not saying much)

2. Media market

So as a followup question. If Media market kept us out then, why is it attractive now?
 
There are much lower media markets in the B1G than ours.
And? They were already in the conference... we are taking about candidacy/criteria for joining now.


Hartford/New Haven - 32 Louisville 49
Didn’t mention the ACC in that point on purpose
 
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So as a followup question. If Media market kept us out then, why is it attractive now?

You're just trolling at this point. Every conference has different needs every time it expands.
The B1G needed a football brand when it grabbed Nebraska. Later, it decided that due to the changing landscape, and the BTN, it needed more TV sets and bigger markets. It ignored on field performance that time and grabbed RU and Maryland.

At the time the ACC grabbed Louisville, football was at historic lows for the league. Miami stunk. VT wasn't doing well and even FSU and Clemson were not where they have been since. The ACC has very strong tv markets, and had no network, so that was not a factor for them. Louiville and UConn both had strong basketball, but Louisville had much strong football. Additionally, they had a more southern culture, and the southern ACC schools didn't want another Yankee school to shift the balance of power.

The Big 12 grabbed TCU because it was in footprint and good at football. It took WVU because it was desperate for a 10th member to retain it's AQ status and TV contract and couldn't lure anybody from the SEC or B1G.

The SEC took A&M because it was strong across the board and brought them into the TX/Houston market. Mizzou also had solid programs, and good TV markets that complimented what the SEC had (Mizzou and Arkansas are traditional rivals...it not at the level of Mizzou KU).

The Pac was and is geographically isolated. It saw a chance to get beyond its borders and get a strong program in a good market with Colorado and pounced. Good cultural fit too, as CU is as granola as UC Berkeley. They grabbed Utah as the next best available program in the region, and a geographic bridge to Colorado.
 
So as a followup question. If Media market kept us out then, why is it attractive now?
We do still have a good cut of the NY metro region with SW CT. It’s attractive, just not quite as much as what Jersey and Maryland had to offer

B1G is also looking to move beyond a pure athletic conference and banding together with academics, sticking with AAU research universities. UMD and RU are; UConn is not. The research going on at UMD vs UConn is holy lolz-worthy in your words
 
You're just trolling at this point. Every conference has different needs every time it expands.
The B1G needed a football brand when it grabbed Nebraska. Later, it decided that due to the changing landscape, and the BTN, it needed more TV sets and bigger markets. It ignored on field performance that time and grabbed RU and Maryland.

At the time the ACC grabbed Louisville, football was at historic lows for the league. Miami stunk. VT wasn't doing well and even FSU and Clemson were not where they have been since. The ACC has very strong tv markets, and had no network, so that was not a factor for them. Louiville and UConn both had strong basketball, but Louisville had much strong football. Additionally, they had a more southern culture, and the southern ACC schools didn't want another Yankee school to shift the balance of power.

The Big 12 grabbed TCU because it was in footprint and good at football. It took WVU because it was desperate for a 10th member to retain it's AQ status and TV contract and couldn't lure anybody from the SEC or B1G.

The SEC took A&M because it was strong across the board and brought them into the TX/Houston market. Mizzou also had solid programs, and good TV markets that complimented what the SEC had (Mizzou and Arkansas are traditional rivals...it not at the level of Mizzou KU).

The Pac was and is geographically isolated. It saw a chance to get beyond its borders and get a strong program in a good market with Colorado and pounced. Good cultural fit too, as CU is as granola as UC Berkeley. They grabbed Utah as the next best available program in the region, and a geographic bridge to Colorado.


Im really not.


I really want to know why people expect diminishing attractiveness (because Id daresay that are Athletic department and media footprint are worse than they were 5 years ago) So I want someone to explain to me why that will equal CR success going forward.
 
We do still have a good cut of the NY metro region with SW CT. It’s attractive, just not quite as much as what Jersey and Maryland had to offer

B1G is also looking to move beyond a pure athletic conference and banding together with academics, sticking with AAU research universities. UMD and RU are; UConn is not. The research going on at UMD vs UConn is holy lolz-worthy in your words

And we will be an AAU research University exactly when?
 
Im really not.


I really want to know why people expect diminishing attractiveness (because Id daresay that are Athletic department and media footprint are worse than they were 5 years ago) So I want someone to explain to me why that will equal CR success going forward.
We can only hope for more expansion as we are still one of the the more attractive programs left to be taken if/when that happens
 
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We can only hope for more expansion as we are still one of the the more attractive programs left to be taken if/when that happens

So at this point its like playing Powerball?
 
You're talking to Auggie about sports, you should have given up a while ago.

You have an useful information to add? Enlighten me with your insider connections. Or can that only be done via PM?
 
Im really not.

I really want to know why people expect diminishing attractiveness (because Id daresay that are Athletic department and media footprint are worse than they were 5 years ago) So I want someone to explain to me why that will equal CR success going forward.

I don't know that we should. But as other pieces come off the board, we may be girl that somebody asks to dance. It will depend on their needs and our attractiveness at the time. We have the largest non P5 athletic department budget by a big margin. We have better markets than most of the remaining players. We have history of success across multiple programs. Unfortunately, our current performance is down considerably in the two most important sports. The UConn women are a unique asset to any league with a network. Our academics are an asset.

That's where we are. If the ACC did add someone, I don't think any other school except maybe Cincinnati would even be considered. The B1G? I doubt we'd be taken. The Big XII? If they lose members, we'd be on the short list to replace them. UCF and Houston might be at the top right now. That's it.
 
I don't know that we should. But as other pieces come off the board, we may be girl that somebody asks to dance. It will depend on their needs and our attractiveness at the time. We have the largest non P5 athletic department budget by a big margin. We have better markets than most of the remaining players. We have history of success across multiple programs. Unfortunately, our current performance is down considerably in the two most important sports. The UConn women are a unique asset to any league with a network. Our academics are an asset.

That's where we are. If the ACC did add someone, I don't think any other school except maybe Cincinnati would even be considered. The B1G? I doubt we'd be taken. The Big XII? If they lose members, we'd be on the short list to replace them. UCF and Houston might be at the top right now. That's it.


Thank you for a thoughtful answer. Those are my feelings too.

Really we are wishing on a star.
 
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