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Some no doubt will grouse about the shipping costs, but couldn't the Rent and Burton Center be sold to Wichita State, and basketball goes back to Big East? Gotta think outside the box sometimes when going for a win-win.
Perhaps, but it may serve us better to give them a long term lease. I'd offer a lease with a lease to own option, the option however having a balloon payment built in. That could be a win-win for us.
 
I am going out on a limb with this, and just speculating. I will probably get called names by some of the arrogant posters, but I don't care. I am starting to think that dropping Football may not be a bad idea, and just be a basketball school. All those big east catholic schools played bigtime football when I was a kid in the '50's & '60's. They could not compete, could not afford it, and eventually dropped it. Big time FB is a closed club. Uconn will never get in. They will just flounder around on the periphery and loose tons of money. There are only so many quality players coming out of HS each year, and if they are 5 stars they are going to go to one of the long established programs, not Uconn. Furthermore, and here is were I could be dead wrong, but I see football possibly going the way of Roman Gladiator fights by the end of this century. We are all aware of all the talk about brain injuries in football, as well as other life long debilitating injuries. ( I tore my cartilidge in my knee playing HS FB, and still suffer from it. Just had another knee operation a few years ago, and I am almost 70). Football starts in high school. You need your parents permission to play as far as I know. You see where I am going with this? As more brain injury crap comes out, more parents say no, the player pool dwindles, and it is all down hill for the sport of football. Keep in mind I said by the end of the century, not over the next few years. Vermont dropped football, and while they are no BB powerhouse, they manage to put some pretty good teams on the court in BB for a small school from a tiny state. Would like to know what you all think about the future of football for Uconn and the sport in general. Maybe I am dead wrong, I am like I said just speculating.
Let's drop men's basketball too. Same poor results and steadily declining attendance.
 
Perhaps, but it may serve us better to give them a long term lease. I'd offer a lease with a lease to own option, the option however having a balloon payment built in. That could be a win-win for us.
Get Koch brothers lobbyists involved and the possibilities are endless. Recapture sunk costs, bundle them together, and externalize them to underfunded red state schoolteacher pensions via some new-fangled financial instruments to be named at a later date.
 
So ridiculous they are not going to drop football nor should they....So tired of people thinking the Big East is the savior ...The problem is the basketball program not the league , the AAC has become a pretty good conference yes not ideal , but Uconn certainly isn't doing anything to help..The AAC will get around 10 mil per school i would think, then with the tier 3 rights they could be around 20 per, not to bad.... Instead of on the FB program, why not support it RE has it going in the right direction...
 
That's nothing compared to some who have 17,000 posts who wants to get rid of the mens team and concentrate on the ladies
Some people just talk to hear themselves talk and/or say absolutely stupid things to get some likes from other dolts
zero people have said this.
 
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Curious that this thread was created on the Men's Basketball Forum instead of the Football one. Those guys over there would tear the OP up. A lot of those posters hate basketball.

For the record, I support returning all sports to the Big East except football which should go independent. As for waiting for a better deal from the ACC, that ship has sailed. Our product is declining greatly and we are much less attractive then we were 5 years ago. We've been usurped by a number of other schools if the ACC ever expands.
 
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This is, by miles, the absolute stupidest thread I have ever seen on The Boneyard. Good lord.

And the stupidity is only enhanced by the atrocious grammar.

I do not understand why people keep blaming football for the demise of basketball. We have won three national championships since moving to D1/FBS football. I don’t think there is a correlation there.
 
We're not in this conference because of basketball or football. We're in this conference because of the fan base. That's the number one reason. Most of the basketball fans couldn't care less about any of the other programs, a significant chunk of the football base doesn't like basketball, and the women's base is their own bread entirely. Sure every school has their own dynamics as far as which sports are popular, but UConn feels unique because of the northeast sports landscape. This isn't Wisconsin where everybody who is an alum of the school or grew up in the state goes to football, basketball, and hockey games without asking questions. It's a saturated market and by extension you have to build a base purely on entertainment/winning rather than culture, tradition, etc. That leads to an environment where you're picking up smatterings of people for a particular sport depending on which ones are good at the time. Nobody would care about women's basketball if they weren't the greatest program ever. I think that's obvious.

Now, do I think the basketball program would benefit from joining the Big East in the short term? Yes. There is an unavoidable conflict of interest that is likely going to end with somebody being unhappy. You can grill Ollie all you want for his coaching, and it has been bad, but there are a lot of guys who are less than perfect as coaches who win games because they get great players. New England is a rich recruiting market and I cannot imagine playing in the AAC helps us. Does that mean we should drop football? Obviously not. Conference is a factor but only a single factor and it's certainly not worth ditching a titanic investment to help win a recruit every couple years. If Ollie was falling just short against the blue bloods I could see the OP's argument, since he's not it is obvious that he's been the primary limiting factor.
 
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How about this? We drop basketball. It’s a bigger dumpster fire than the football team.

Football drives the ship. Not basketball. So get on board.
 
I am going out on a limb with this, and just speculating. I will probably get called names by some of the arrogant posters, but I don't care. I am starting to think that dropping Football may not be a bad idea, and just be a basketball school. All those big east catholic schools played bigtime football when I was a kid in the '50's & '60's. They could not compete, could not afford it, and eventually dropped it. Big time FB is a closed club. Uconn will never get in. They will just flounder around on the periphery and loose tons of money. There are only so many quality players coming out of HS each year, and if they are 5 stars they are going to go to one of the long established programs, not Uconn. Furthermore, and here is were I could be dead wrong, but I see football possibly going the way of Roman Gladiator fights by the end of this century. We are all aware of all the talk about brain injuries in football, as well as other life long debilitating injuries. ( I tore my cartilidge in my knee playing HS FB, and still suffer from it. Just had another knee operation a few years ago, and I am almost 70). Football starts in high school. You need your parents permission to play as far as I know. You see where I am going with this? As more brain injury crap comes out, more parents say no, the player pool dwindles, and it is all down hill for the sport of football. Keep in mind I said by the end of the century, not over the next few years. Vermont dropped football, and while they are no BB powerhouse, they manage to put some pretty good teams on the court in BB for a small school from a tiny state. Would like to know what you all think about the future of football for Uconn and the sport in general. Maybe I am dead wrong, I am like I said just speculating.
People join the military for very low wages and you think football is going to die when they are paid millions? The market is large enough for gladiatorial sports, obviously. Hello, MMA.
 
How about this? We drop basketball. It’s a bigger dumpster fire than the football team.

Football drives the ship. Not basketball. So get on board.
Football has 0 national championships and the attendance is steadily dropping. Uconn is known as a basketball school, but with all that we shouldn’t drop football.
 
We're not in this conference because of basketball or football. We're in this conference because of the fan base. That's the number one reason. Most of the basketball fans couldn't care less about any of the other programs, a significant chunk of the football base doesn't like basketball, and the women's base is their own bread entirely. Sure every school has their own dynamics as far as which sports are popular, but UConn feels unique because of the northeast sports landscape. This isn't Wisconsin where everybody who is an alum of the school or grew up in the state goes to football, basketball, and hockey games without asking questions. It's a saturated market and by extension you have to build a base purely on entertainment/winning rather than culture, tradition, etc. That leads to an environment where you're picking up smatterings of people for a particular sport depending on which ones are good at the time. Nobody would care about women's basketball if they weren't the greatest program ever. I think that's obvious.

Now, do I think the basketball program would benefit from joining the Big East in the short term? Yes. There is an unavoidable conflict of interest that is likely going to end with somebody being unhappy. You can grill Ollie all you want for his coaching, and it has been bad, but there are a lot of guys who are less than perfect as coaches who win games because they get great players. New England is a rich recruiting market and I cannot imagine playing in the AAC helps us. Does that mean we should drop football? Obviously not. Conference is a factor but only a single factor and it's certainly not worth ditching a titanic investment to help win a recruit every couple years. If Ollie was falling just short against the blue bloods I could see the OP's argument, since he's not it is obvious that he's been the primary limiting factor.

The fan base? Nah. The fact is we got into big boy football about 50 years too late.
 
Football has 0 national championships and the attendance is steadily dropping. Uconn is known as a basketball school, but with all that we shouldn’t drop football.

I’m in agreement. Just a response to a ridiculous original post.

Although I like football 10000 times more than basketball I root for all UCONN teams to do well. And I am guessing the majority of fans who like basketball feel the same. It’s just a couple posters that spew the dismantle football program.
 
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I think this would be silly at best, even if you somehow think this would make the basketball program better. I hate to break it to you, but football, which is not going anywhere, has nothing to do with why the basketball program has crumbled. Unless you think "football" is wearing a suit and sitting on the bench during games tbat is.

A large part of the basketball program's problems now -and those problems coming in the future- have to do with the conference situation. The conference situation is harming the men's program and will harm the women's program once Geno retires. And the conference situation has everything to do with football.
 
A large part of the basketball program's problems now -and those problems coming in the future- have to do with the conference situation. The conference situation is harming the men's program and will harm the women's program once Geno retires. And the conference situation has everything to do with football.

Everything, huh. Thank goodness Rutgers was such a power in football, they secured that Big Ten Invite. And that Syracuse football team was really lighting it up before they got an invite to the ACC. Yep, football has everything to do with conference situation. Zero other factors. Got it.
 
Motrin, the fact we can't win a basketball game at SMU, Houston and Tulsa has nothing to do with football and everything to do with our overpaid coach. If we need to save money cut men's sports to FB, BB. soccer, hockey and baseball and make the corresponding cuts to women's programs to keep us in title 9 compliance.
 
Good God, this twit with his 7th post wants UCONN to aspire to be Vermont.
Believe me, there are some (many?) in Burlington who are laughing at UConn and patting themselves on the back that they are not pouring millions into a program that "packs" 9,000 or so hearty souls into the high-priced Rent six times a year.
 
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Maybe Vermont was a bad example. How about Wichita twit? They used to play major league football. How are they doing in BB, twit? This was meant for metsfan2323. Don't know why his post did not show up above my reply.


When the heck did Wichita St play "major league" football????
 
Everything, huh. Thank goodness Rutgers was such a power in football, they secured that Big Ten Invite. And that Syracuse football team was really lighting it up before they got an invite to the ACC. Yep, football has everything to do with conference situation. Zero other factors. Got it.

Well, we'd won a basketball title two years earlier when the realignment was going on. I think the ACC knew how good our basketball program was. And they weren't comparing us with Rutgers or Syracuse (although both have consistently higher FB attendance going back to the Big East days) but with Louisville.

We have a stronger men's BB program than Louisville. We have a stronger women's BB program than Louisville. We have a stronger academic profile and media market footprint than Louisville. What we don't have (and didn't have) is a stronger football program. If football had higher attendance, revenue, etc., then the ACC football schools (FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT) would not have joined with Syracuse and BC to stop our invite.
 
Believe me, there are some (many?) in Burlington who are laughing at UConn and patting themselves on the back that they are not pouring millions into a program that "packs" 9,000 or so hearty souls into the high-priced Rent six times a year.

Nah, they're laughing cause they are high .
 
How about first dropping fans that insult other fans.

Good idea, but do me a favor first fichy, identify what a "fan" is because I rarely insult the real fans. Just the ones with the agenda for 1 1/2 years, well deserved. And if you don't like those replies I suggest you don't read them easy to hit the ignore button.

Have a good night!
 
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