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Doris Burke "NOT" the President of the Saniya Chong Fan Club

*Looks at OP's username and avatar*

Hmm...I wonder why this poster would be hyper-sensitive to criticism of Chong...

Whether or not you like the job Doris is doing, it's not her job to be "equitable" in her analysis. Sometimes your favorite player's good plays will go unnoticed and their bad plays will be critically dissected. That's just how it is.

There is way too much going on during a game to expect every analyst to give a perfectly even-handed critique of each player's game...
 
osceola48 said:
I haven't been attuned to this issue, but it sounds like you may have a good case.
I will say, though, that I don't care for Doris' commentary at all. She has always questioned calls against UConn opponents and rarely questions calls against UConn. Moreover, she is never quiet, and often is talking about other stuff while the game is going on.
But for this game, I avoided all the stress that builds up when I listen to her and her usual partner (I like Lawson). I muted the sound and tuned into WTIC radio! What a joy to listen to commentators who are staying focused on the game and doing a good job.
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I have issues with a commentary that has issues with nearly all calls but and egregious call should be seen in the light of day. I don't think the "analysts" should be discussing anything except what the PLAYERS are doing. LAWSON==is my favorite announcer/analyst for basketball--men or womens--this woman knows the game and the players--and is positive about Uconn winning
 
HoopsFan21 said:
LOL Doris is THE biggest UConn shill out there. This is known as a fact. Like the sun rising in the east. She just can't shut up is her biggest problem.
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Correct - and that's why, on occasion, it seems like she's going out of her way to not sound like one. But the notion that she's a Saniya Chong hater is ridiculous.
 
bags27 said:
As usual, I watched the game with the sound off. Why should we listen anyway? When we go to games, we just watch. We're certainly smart enough to know who's doing what and how without the announcers telling us. I often do that with sports and really like it.

When I do have the sound on--for games where I don't know the players--most of the time I can't stand listening to Doris (although I do admire her spunk). I think she's (terrible to say, but we're being candid)--not very smart. She is slow to grasp things and, when she does, usually grasps them simplistically and then won't let go of what she's "discovered," repeating them like a mantra. So, she's usually a couple of insights behind the rest of us. But she does have heart, so I do admire her in other ways.
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You don't "twice on the pipe"/?? When I could still hear and lived close enough to get TIC radio--I too turned theTV sound off and listened to the Radio --always better play by play. Now -the sound is off and I try to read the captions--impossible--so I watch and enjoy the heck out of these Women--Amazing as they are!!
 
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BroadwayVa said:
You don't "twice on the pipe"/?? When I could still hear and lived close enough to get TIC radio--I too turned theTV sound off and listened to the Radio --always better play by play. Now -the sound is off and I try to read the captions--impossible--so I watch and enjoy the heck out of these Women--Amazing as they are!!
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The radio is around 45 seconds behind. Even though it's really weird, I sometimes do....
 
Chong-Master said:
Last evening, as I watched this very exciting game against South Carolina, with the ESPN Analyst Team of Doris Burke and Kara Lawson, I was hoping to hear a fair and equitable analysis of the play by play both. Sadly "AGAIN" while Kara Lawson continued her fair and balanced analysis of the game, and notably the players on the court for both teams, Doris Burke "CONTINUED" her apparent (at least to me) bias against Saniya Chong's game. Outside of the errant 3 point attempt in the 2nd half, that I agree (as would Saniya Chong if you would ask her today) was not a smart shot to take at that point in the game, I feel that Saniya's overall game last night (Especially on the defensive end) was ROCK SOLID. However, Doris Burke continued to slam Saniya's game, being critical every chance she had, and when Saniya had a moment in the game where she 'shined' Doris had NOTHING to say (however, Kara Lawson was quick to mention how well Saniya has played this season). What put the dagger in my back, was the great play that Saniya made, taking the charge call, late in the game. But there was Doris Burke, coming on an saying that the charge call was 'questionable' at best. If Doris's style is to be super critical, then fine, but make it across the board for all of the players, on both teams (UCONN and South Carolina).

Sorry folks, but I for one, has gotten very tired of Doris Burke as a Women's Basketball Analyst for ESPN and believe that Kara Lawson is leaps and bounds better than Doris Burke (as it Meg Cuomo for SNY)
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You want a cheer leader instead of a commentator.
 
bags27 said:
The radio is around 45 seconds behind. Even though it's really weird, I sometimes do...
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Actually the TV is 15 to 30 seconds behind the Game tracker--sometimes--not always --I supposed they put in the 7 second delay to take out Colorful words--on tV--but when I watched Uconn WBB and TIC they were in sync---they didn't use sats just telephone connections to Hartford from Gampel or the old field house--no notice able delay-- For a while here I got TIC , Bob Joyce, via the internet and didn't notice any delay between his voice and the TV sound---probably because they were both bounced off a Sat.
I typically have Gametracker on my laptop and game on tv---and read instantly the foul calls--often before the analyst prints them in Closed Captioning. I like gametracker---I have data at my fingertips--
 
Burke describes Chong's play straight-up. I think some her would prefer to frame Chong as a plucky, little underdog. She starts for a team that just won 100 in a row, fer cryin' out loud.
 
Beemer said:
I didn't say she hasn't, I said I couldn't recall her doing so. And I've been watching UConn for over 20 years now.
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This take is pretty funny, considering after one of the champ seasons (2004, I think) we gave Doris and Jim Nantz NC rings. They're both considered to be huge UConn fans, even by the folks in Storrs. I recall there being a little controversy at the time about giving out rings to media members. Nantz and Packer were hilarious during the 1999 men's final vs. Duke, with both of them unabashedly rooting for the two different teams. Packer played at Wake Forest, so he's an ACC homer. Nantz lives in CT.

I've also grown a little tired of Doris, but she knows the game. What surprised me about her last night is she wore a dress that couldn't have been more spot on in both of USC's colors. Media members, at least if you're sitting on press row, are supposed to wear colors neutral to the two teams competing, and obviously nothing with either schools' name or logo on it. Not that it matters, but I'm wondering if she chose her dress colors deliberately in an attempt to distance herself from being characterized as a UConn homer? How many women have a throwdown garnet and black dress in their closets? Maybe a lot, I don't know.
 
Not a fan of many game commentators, but absolutely love Kara - she has been doing this for a number of years and unlike almost every other commentator since MNF and Howard (probably predates that, but a nice starting point) I have yet to detect her creating her own personal shtick, She continues to come to each game and each commentary with fresh eyes and new research, and continues to actually watch and react to what is happening and not some preplanned concept of how the game or the teams will play.
 
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wire chief said:
I have no general conclusion about her fairness, but I will say I screamed at my TV" Oh, shut up!" 3 times.
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Unfortunately, there are some announcers who seem to think they've become bigger than the games they're announcing, and they've fallen in love with the sound of their own voice. "Dollar" Bill Walton is example No. 1, and he has no close seconds. Vitale also qualifies for this club, and Doris is flirting with becoming a member.
 
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mhshuskies said:
All this back and forth discussion because Doris didn't explain how Saniya "COMPORTS" herself on the court?
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Her "frame" allows her to not get it "twice on the pipes"
 
Good grief, you'd think people would take 24 hours to enjoy the 100th consecutive victory but, no, let's complain about something irrelevant.

Geno knows Saniya's value, her teammates know, and the fans know. Who cares what Doris thinks, although I think you are reaching really far for that perceived insult.
 
I like Doris Burke! Ever since she once said on TV that she wished that she had played for Geno in college, I have had a high regard for her.

She is doing her job as she has been told and as she has defined it. I have no problem with that.

Last night she made the comment when South Carolina was in the lead for a short period of time that this could be a "program changing moment" for South Carolina, should they continue and beat UConn. And what that would mean for South Carolina and future recruiting for South Carolina. Well, not last night! But, she is entitled to interject all of the drama and sensationalism into her broadcast that she likes.

Kara is great too!
 
HuskyNan said:
Good grief, you'd think people would take 24 hours to enjoy the 100th consecutive victory but, no, let's complain about something irrelevant.

Geno knows Saniya's value, her teammates know, and the fans know. Who cares what Doris thinks, although I think you are reaching really far for that perceived insult.
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Stop with the common sense, will ya? Enough veracity. We live in the days of "motley facts." LOL.
 
HuskyNan said:
Good grief, you'd think people would take 24 hours to enjoy the 100th consecutive victory but, no, let's complain about something irrelevant.

Geno knows Saniya's value, her teammates know, and the fans know. Who cares what Doris thinks, although I think you are reaching really far for that perceived insult.
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Yep and take the time to enjoy # 100 before wading into the debate of whether we'll make it to (an insane) 200. Although truth be told my mind has wondered to how long can this possibly go on a few occasions. Will Geno catch Pat in total wins? Will he catch Tara? Great questions, but you can't let them get in the way of way of enjoying the history happening before our eyes. This is really amazing and I for one am content to enjoy the moments as they happen.
 
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Not a huge Doris Burke fan (do like Lawson a lot), but respect her knowledge of the game and I don`t think she has a bias against UConn. On the contrary she is very complimentary of the program and was a full-throated voice last year in support of the excellence of the UConn program during the Shaughnessy kerfuffle.

Also, she was interviewed on Joe D`Ambrosio`s radio show yesterday afternoon and she went out of her way to praise Saniya.

But, did anyone else notice that last night she was DRESSED IN SOUTH CAROLINA COLORS? Not suggesting at all it is evidence of bias or anything like that, just seemed very odd.
 
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ju6381 said:
Its not the job of Doris to be the President of a players fan club. There were many calls I thought were very questionable including the charge calls that went Saniya's way. It is her job however to talk about them. I was as happy as anyone that UConn got the calls but i would say the bigger issue was the refs awful performance, both ways, rather then Doris analyzing the call.
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Five years ago Doris thought it was her job to count Skylar Diggins's followers on twitter. She paused a moment near the end and said to her broadcast partner "They're down almost THIRTY?????
 
HuskyNan said:
Good grief, you'd think people would take 24 hours to enjoy the 100th consecutive victory but, no, let's complain about something irrelevant.

Geno knows Saniya's value, her teammates know, and the fans know. Who cares what Doris thinks, although I think you are reaching really far for that perceived insult.
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C'mon, Nan. We're UConn fans. Following two seconds of postgame contemplation after a big victory, we see, identify and discuss the ominous, dark, thunderhead cloud approaching us in the middle of the Sahara Desert. Even Geno sets this tone. Remember him critiquing player performance during the video session at the hotel after the 1995 FF? The players were throwing things at him, and undoubtedly messing up his hair.
 
Billybonggg said:
Five years ago Doris thought it was her job to count Skylar Diggins's followers on twitter. She paused a moment near the end and said to her broadcast partner "They're down almost THIRTY?????
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Not really sure what that has to do with anything that I said.
 
Doris Burke maybe a champion of WBB and Uconn but she has continually bashed Chong for the past 4 years. I bet if someone else had drawn that charge (Kia, Lou...) all we would have heard was what a great play it was. I have been sick of the Chong Bashing for the past four years.
She had another solid game last night and is putting together a great season on her way out the door. Congrats to her.
Good thing she was there last night to play good D and steady the offense, Kia attempted to play lame, hope Gino has enough sense to rest her and let that ankle heel until crunch time.
As for Lou, she was pretty poor last night but I think the continual beating she took had something to do with that, SC bigs were BIG and played like they were in the WWE.
 
Beemer said:
Doris Burke has always made my ears bleed. I can't ever recall her giving praise or making a fair comment about UConn or a UConn player. Thank God for the mute button!
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Doris does a lot of games at multiple levels and is a knowledgeable champion of WCBB and UConn's excellence. She loves Geno, as evidenced in her saying that she would have loved to play for him. She also made the classic comment about Geno having the best "package" in the game.

That said, Doris does wear on me, expecially with her overuse of "comport" and "extraordinary." But that's just a personal thing for me.
 
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