Dom Amore: If Big 12 calls, UConn will have to choose between Big East love and Power Five money.

[freescooter]

I agree with all you’ve said here. Doesn’t the university at some point have to consider the fact that these are full time students? When 9 of the other 12 opponents are west of the Mississippi and in a different time zone, is traveling to these road games compatible with being a full time student? One opponent is 2000+ air miles and 2 time zones away. None are in the Northeast. The Bug East includes only one opponent west of the Mississippi and only 3 in a different time zone.

LOLOLOL. Like anyone at any D1 athletic department is worried about academics of “full time students.” With the portal, even the athletes don’t care. When you follow players now they don’t say X graduates this year. They say X used up his eligibility.

 

[The Yakk]

This is one of those times where median is probably better than average due to outliers.

Houston - 15
Texas - 31

Houston had 1 200+ season in Kelvin's first year mixed in with 6 top 20 seasons. Texas was pretty consistently 20-40 but had their best season this past season (2 top 20 seasons).

The guy you are quoting never fails to cherry-pick the exact stat that supports his feelings.

Do you remember when he proved the reffing at PC's home games was perfectly fair?

If Houston and UT had played home-and-home the last ten years, Houston wins 75% of those games.

 

[HuskyHawk]

The guy you are quoting never fails to cherry-pick the exact stat that supports his feelings.

Do you remember when he proved the reffing at PC's home games was perfectly fair?

If Houston and UT had played home-and-home the last ten years, Houston wins 75% of those games.

Exactly. I work with a group of people that are almost half UT grads. So many of them have Longhorn football helmets behind them on zoom calls, or autographed footballs or jerseys or whatever. It’s a football school.

While several such schools, like Michigan, Ohio State, Florida, UT, Tennessee, LSU and Bama have had basketball success, none of them have sustained it except for Michigan. Penn State had a nice season and the coach bailed. Likewise the historically strong hoops programs occasionally have good football teams, but struggle to sustain it.

 

[mussels]

LOLOLOL. Like anyone at any D1 athletic department is worried about academics of “full time students.” With the portal, even the athletes don’t care. When you follow players now they don’t say X graduates this year. They say X used up his eligibility.

Pretty sure the majority of Division 1 athletes care a great deal. Almost none of the women’s sports and of the majority of mens sports don’t offer a viable realistic path to play professionally. They actually have to study and graduate.

 

[superjohn]

I grew up in Stamford, a city unique in that it had some of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the world and a number of housing projects. Having culture commonality requires far more than merely living in a relative geographic proximity.

The Cove (where I grew up) was (to be kind) blue collar during the 1960's and 1970's (I was born in 1960). I described my ethnicity earlier in this thread. Basically the entirety of the Cove at that time was of similar background.

We had far more in common on nearly every level with African Americans who lived in the projects and whose families migrated from the South from the mid 1950's through the early 1960's than we did with the white kids from Shippan or the upper Ridges.

If you think that because Georgetown is in DC and Nova is just outside Ohilly their student bodies would have tremendous similarities to UConn's you're missing quite a bit.

You think UConn and CT has more in common with Baylor and Waco than it does with G'Town/Nova DC and Philly?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

You think UConn and CT has more in common with Baylor and Waco than it does with G'Town/Nova DC and Philly?

I will state without question that the run of the mill UConn undergrad would have very little in common with the run of the mill Georgetown or Villanova undergrad.

Baylor would be an outlier when looking at the members of the B-12 due to it being a private, faith led school but there are far more private, faith led schools in the BE than there are in the B-12.

 

[UCann]

Heard some interesting information from someone who attended an event with Dan Hurley: Apparently, he is not a fan of the Big East and would prefer the Big12 in a major way. Primary reasons include weak leadership within the Big East (the conference itself as well as many of the lower tier schools) and a lower quality of teams, especially at the lower tiers which hurt competition and where losses disproportionately hurt our ranking (compared to a loss to a lower tier Big12 school). He does not think recruiting would be impacted. And on that note, also heard that the target is to raise $3.5M per year to support NIL for just men's bb.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Heard some interesting information from someone who attended an event with Dan Hurley: Apparently, he is not a fan of the Big East and would prefer the Big12 in a major way. Primary reasons include weak leadership within the Big East (the conference itself as well as many of the lower tier schools) and a lower quality of teams, especially at the lower tiers which hurt competition and where losses disproportionately hurt our ranking (compared to a loss to a lower tier Big12 school). He does not think recruiting would be impacted. And on that note, also heard that the target is to raise $3.5M per year to support NIL for just men's bb.

Idk if any of this is true, but don’t tell that to the pro Big East people. They really think B12 basketball is somehow worse.

 

[noeynox]

Heard some interesting information from someone who attended an event with Dan Hurley: Apparently, he is not a fan of the Big East and would prefer the Big12 in a major way. Primary reasons include weak leadership within the Big East (the conference itself as well as many of the lower tier schools) and a lower quality of teams, especially at the lower tiers which hurt competition and where losses disproportionately hurt our ranking (compared to a loss to a lower tier Big12 school). He does not think recruiting would be impacted. And on that note, also heard that the target is to raise $3.5M per year to support NIL for just men's bb.

You are going to make a lot of BB 1st fans VERY angry with this post.

 

[Bongo Fury]

Big 12 has more visibility and should check first but imagine have more teams selected to the tournament?

 

[noeynox]

Big 12 has more visibility and should check first but imagine have more teams selected to the tournament?

What is the BB equivalent to Depaul in the Big12, aka as a team that isn't even trying?

 

[Com'rGordon]

I think the B12 is by far the best conference in basketball. Atleast was last year

 

[metsfan2323]

Heard some interesting information from someone who attended an event with Dan Hurley: Apparently, he is not a fan of the Big East and would prefer the Big12 in a major way. Primary reasons include weak leadership within the Big East (the conference itself as well as many of the lower tier schools) and a lower quality of teams, especially at the lower tiers which hurt competition and where losses disproportionately hurt our ranking (compared to a loss to a lower tier Big12 school). He does not think recruiting would be impacted. And on that note, also heard that the target is to raise $3.5M per year to support NIL for just men's bb.

I would not be surprised if this is true, and you can bank on Dan Hurley's agent being heavily in favor of a move to the B12, same goes for our great assistants.

 

[CL82]

So it’s all about competing financially? Our football team will be BC or Cuse or worse. Baseball will be no better

Yeah, let me take a wild guess, you don't actually follow the baseball team, do you?

 

[noeynox]

Yeah, let me take a wild guess, you don't actually follow the baseball team, do you?

Our FB team needs to go up from where its at to be BC or Cuse. It currently is "worse". We just have a portion of this fanbase that would rather FB go away than to threaten games against PC, Nova, St. John's, Hall and GTown. And only on in MBB cause everyone knows WBB would get a huge boost in the B12.

 

[UCann]

You are going to make a lot of BB 1st fans VERY angry with this post.

...just sharing what I heard from someone I trust that was there. Apparently, a lot of high-level people were there, and large donors/potential donors. I figure even if you are BB 1st, if the HC feels this strongly, it has to be better for the program.

 

[noeynox]

...just sharing what I heard from someone I trust that was there. Apparently, a lot of high-level people were there, and large donors/potential donors. I figure even if you are BB 1st, if the HC feels this strongly, it has to be better for the program.

The hell does he know? Barely been here long enough to find his office.

 

[CL82]

Our FB team needs to go up from where its at to be BC or Cuse. It currently is "worse". We just have a portion of this fanbase that would rather FB go away than to threaten games against PC, Nova, St. John's, Hall and GTown. And only on in MBB cause everyone knows WBB would get a huge boost in the B12.

Well, a UConn playing it's back up true freshman quarterback, and third string tie freshman running back beat BC last year, so maybe we aren't currently worse than BC?

 

[noeynox]

Well, a UConn playing it's back up true freshman quarterback, and third string tie freshman running back beat BC last year, so maybe we aren't currently worse than BC?

I try not to put too much into 1 game. We had a dreadful prior decade. But i see daylight.

 

[Waquoit]

I try not to put too much into 1 game. We had a dreadful prior decade. But i see daylight.

Why not? One game is infinitely better than zero.

 

[mussels]

Color me skeptical. Its a bad look to be bad mouthing the conference you are currently in, and I think Hurley is smart enough to know that.

 

[aburks41]

Color me skeptical. Its a bad look to be bad mouthing the conference you are currently in, and I think Hurley is smart enough to know that.

Hurley has consistently gone after Big East refs and borderline insinuated that the conference is to blame for their inadequacies. That being said, I find it hard to believe he would be openly telling people that, but then again it’s Hurley. He doesn’t necessarily have a filter, which I like about him.

I’m more inclined to believe this version of the story rather than that “senior Big East source” 2 weeks ago who said if UConn went to the B12 then Hurley would leave. That story made less than zero sense to me, unless Hurley was willing to destroy his career trajectory by going to UMass or something so he could stay in a local “northeast” conference. Because let’s not forget, he took the UConn job while we were in the AAC. And he is on the record saying when he took the job, he knew nothing about the Big East move happening. There were zero guarantees at that time from Benedict.

 

[EZPass]

Gonzaga postgame snippet:
“Sometimes the Big East ya know…ahh forget it.”

 

[mussels]

Hurley brought a lot of the ref bad blood on himself with his histrionics. You can’t act the way he did, and then play the poor innocent victim when the refs back each other up, and send a message.

He finally figured it out and toned it down because he realized that he was hurting the team. His (unfortunate) instincts made him initiate that dig above, but he at least, kind of, but not really stopped himself.

But regardless of the Hurley vs the Big East refs drama, I don’t see any wider “borderline insinuation” that he believes the
conference itself is responsible.

edit: Also my sense is that the combo of Hurley toning it down, and his new status as a National Champion, will have both side ready to move on and start anew.

 

[noeynox]

Why not? One game is infinitely better than zero.

Can't argue with that!

 

[UCTitleTown]

This train has left the station. We aren't getting invited to the B12. The buzz has died.

 

[noeynox]

This train has left the station. We aren't getting invited to the B12. The buzz has died.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

This train has left the station. We aren't getting invited to the B12. The buzz has died.

Why, because the best gauge is the Twitterazzi?

 

[Zissou]

This train has left the station. We aren't getting invited to the B12. The buzz has died.

It certainly has quieted

 

[Zissou]

You are going to make a lot of BB 1st fans VERY angry with this post.

I’m a fan of the Big East. I joined the yard to make a case for UConn to the Big East long before it was fashionable.

Even so, the Big 12 basketball quality is first tier. We can debate which conference ranks where, but B12 is first tier.

You do lose the more rational travel footprint for all sports going to the Big 12. You also lose the historic rivalries and Big East history.

But that’s all hoops stuff and doesn’t really matter. What’s important is money, and money that can be distributed from football membership. P5 = $$$. If UConn gets a full P5 invite it accepts it.