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Did Ted Lasso just "jump the shark"?

I can't wait for Nate to get put in his place sometime in these next few episodes. He's become a real d bag
 
navery12 said:
I can't wait for Nate to get put in his place sometime in these next few episodes. He's become a real d bag
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I get the sense that we are supposed to be learning a lesson through him.
 
8893 said:
Pretty weak episode this week IMO. Not bad, but feels like treading water.
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I think they thought the Ted therapy was the highlight, but it was a bit overdone. Then the whole thing with Nate's hero complex. Definitely not the best, but I think it's a set up episode for Ted's real therapy and Sam and Rebecca. Nate issue seems solved, I hope. Keely/Roy solved, and I did enjoy Jamie explaining how he needed to give his teammate space...then Roy realizing he's wrong as a coach and a partner to Keeley. Karma, and best part of the episode.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think they thought the Ted therapy was the highlight, but it was a bit overdone. Then the whole thing with Nate's hero complex. Definitely not the best, but I think it's a set up episode for Ted's real therapy and Sam and Rebecca. Nate issue seems solved, I hope. Keely/Roy solved, and I did enjoy Jamie explaining how he needed to give his teammate space...then Roy realizing he's wrong as a coach and a partner to Keeley. Karma, and best part of the episode.
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Nate issue is definitely not solved, the episode ended with him going into the boot room and attacking Will again about the jersey. Was off camera so up to the imagination if it was a verbal or physical attack, but I suspect Ted is about to handle that
 
HuskyHawk said:
I think they thought the Ted therapy was the highlight, but it was a bit overdone. Then the whole thing with Nate's hero complex. Definitely not the best, but I think it's a set up episode for Ted's real therapy and Sam and Rebecca. Nate issue seems solved, I hope. Keely/Roy solved, and I did enjoy Jamie explaining how he needed to give his teammate space...then Roy realizing he's wrong as a coach and a partner to Keeley. Karma, and best part of the episode.
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navery12 said:
Nate issue is definitely not solved, the episode ended with him going into the boot room and attacking Will again about the jersey. Was off camera so up to the imagination if it was a verbal or physical attack, but I suspect Ted is about to handle that
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I think the Nate issue is going to take a darker turn before it gets solved. And there will be some sort of hubris/social media lesson in there.
 
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A couple of visits to the shrink and Nate will be as good as new.
 
navery12 said:
Nate issue is definitely not solved, the episode ended with him going into the boot room and attacking Will again about the jersey. Was off camera so up to the imagination if it was a verbal or physical attack, but I suspect Ted is about to handle that
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8893 said:
I think the Nate issue is going to take a darker turn before it gets solved. And there will be some sort of hubris/social media lesson in there.
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Totally forgot. Yeah, this goes back to his father. He is treating people the way his father treats him, or some such.
 
navery12 said:
I can't wait for Nate to get put in his place sometime in these next few episodes. He's become a real d bag
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Jason Sudeikis said this season would be like The Empire Strikes Back.

I think Nate got a taste and he will become an antagonist if there is a such thing on this show.
 
ZooCougar said:
Jason Sudeikis said this season would be like The Empire Strikes Back.

I think Nate got a taste and he will become an antagonist if there is a such thing on this show.
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Hopefully it's not a retread of the Jamie Tartt arc from the first season and he gets hired by another side only to come back on an opposing team in a climactic moment.
 
Mano said:
Hopefully it's not a retread of the Jamie Tartt arc from the first season and he gets hired by another side only to come back on an opposing team in a climactic moment.
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So far they have done a pretty good job of mixing just enough of the feel-good stuff to keep it uplifting (e.g., the dart game) with unexpected gut-punches (e.g., the ending of the match that relegated them) to remind us that life is like that.
 
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FWIW, I didn't mind last week's episode. The name of it was "Headspace" IIRC and it was essentially a look at the underlying flaws of the main characters. Ted's panic attacks feel like they are going to be a season long issue. Nate had been shat on for long time by his dad and the prior coaching regime. Rebecca's fear of commitment is an ongoing arc. The only one off is Roy Kent's clinginess.

As Fishy alluded to, a lot of shows introduce and resolve issues in a single episode. It's a good thing, IMO, if they take their time figuring these out. Sudeikis is good at portraying dark characters with a veneer of cheerfulness.

I suspect that they are going to do a fathers and sons show where Nate, Jamie and Ted (and maybe Rebecca and/or Roy) reveal that their relationships with their dads have shaped them negatively. Just a guess, but there has been groundwork for it.
 
CL82 said:
I suspect that they are going to do a fathers and sons show where Nate, Jamie and Ted (and maybe Rebecca and/or Roy) reveal that their relationships with their dads have shaped them negatively Just a guess, but there has been groundwork for it.
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Good call. Perhaps in the meantime we'll also find out that that's what's at the root of Ted's issues.
 
8893 said:
Good call. Perhaps in the meantime we'll also find out that that's what's at the root of Ted's issues.
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Abusive alcoholic father and the coping skill of pretending that everything is alright is my guess. We've seen Ted ready to crawl into a bottle when he's depressed from the Christmas show. We've seen that he's good at defecting negative comments, like being called a wanker or media criticisms. I think that they are going to use that as the underlying basis for his relentless cheerfulness and crippling panic attacks.
 
CL82 said:
Abusive alcoholic father and the coping skill of pretending that everything is alright is my guess. We've seen Ted ready to crawl into a bottle when he's depressed from the Christmas show. We've seen that he's good at defecting negative comments, like being called a wanker or media criticisms. I think that they are going to use that as the underlying basis for his relentless cheerfulness and crippling panic attacks.
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Jason Sudeikis Comfort GIF by Apple TV
 
That theory is pretty dark.

I think he still misses his wife and family and suppressing it caused an anxiety attack.
 
ZooCougar said:
That theory is pretty dark.

I think he still misses his wife and family and suppressing it caused an anxiety attack.
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We know Jaime has father issues and so does Nate. Ted knows about Jaime’s issues and recognized them quickly. He doesn’t know about Nate, but that’s coming. Does he have his own? It’s not that big a stretch. There is something deeper than the divorce that makes Ted so unusual. Will they go there? I don’t know, but they are about to give us a view to what makes him tick.

My sense is that the current issue is about failure as a husband and father (even if he hasn’t really), and a situation unlike he sees on the job, where there isn’t a next game, or even a next season. There‘s no second chance and it’s killing him. When she told him the relationship was unfixable, I can‘t think of anything worse for someone like Ted. He doesn’t see a path forward. My shrink sense is that Doc knows he is now like a father to Jaime, and perhaps soon Nate, he has a different family and they do all need him.
 
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ZooCougar said:
That theory is pretty dark.

I think he still misses his wife and family and suppressing it caused an anxiety attack.
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As dark as
his dad committing suicide at age 16
?
 
navery12 said:
Adds so much weight to that darts scene, and the scene with Jamie from season 1 about how his father was always harder on himself than Ted
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Yep “I played darts everyday with my dad until age 16”
 
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ZooCougar said:
That theory is pretty dark.

I think he still misses his wife and family and suppressing it caused an anxiety attack.
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CL82 said:
As dark as
his dad committing suicide at age 16
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CL82 said:
Yep “I played darts everyday with my dad until age 16”
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Couple of quick thoughts:

As if there was any doubt that they are going to explore the dark spaces this season, note the excellent use of George Harrison’s “Beware of Darkness” during the end of the scene with Jamie and his father.

Speaking of that scene, the last time I felt a punch coming so viscerally was when Prez punched Valchek in “The Wire.”

Re Ted’s father‘s suicide and the dart scene, I’m guessing we will learn at some point that “BBQ sauce” was a reference to the blood or something else from the way he died.

Rebecca and Sam is ridiculous but interesting. If the genders were reversed there is no way they are airing that now. Maybe that’s the point? I don’t know. That’s the only storyline hitting somewhat of an off note so far imo.

Is Coach Beard going to take a dark turn now?



Good episode.
 
Yeah I think that was my favorite episode.

It really is the Empire Strikes Back.
 
ZooCougar said:
Yeah I think that was my favorite episode.

It really is the Empire Strikes Back.
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Not my favorite because it just had so many tough moments. But definitely well done.

8893 said:
Couple of quick thoughts:

As if there was any doubt that they are going to explore the dark spaces this season, note the excellent use of George Harrison’s “Beware of Darkness” during the end of the scene with Jamie and his father.

Speaking of that scene, the last time I felt a punch coming so viscerally was when Prez punched Valchek in “The Wire.”

Re Ted’s father‘s suicide and the dart scene, I’m guessing we will learn at some point that “BBQ sauce” was a reference to the blood or something else from the way he died.

Rebecca and Sam is ridiculous but interesting. If the genders were reversed there is no way they are airing that now. Maybe that’s the point? I don’t know. That’s the only storyline hitting somewhat of an off note so far imo.

Is Coach Beard going to take a dark turn now?



Good episode.
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The punch was overdue. His dad rooting for City was enough to trigger my view that he needed to have his butt kicked, to then do what he did, unforgivable. Huge from Roy, recognizing what shaped Jamie to be the obnoxious kid he hated in season 1. I find it interesting that in Season 1, Ted came in and helped a lot of people, he was the rock. Season 2, Roy is the rock.

Beard cares about winning. He can't take being ok with losing. He showed it last year yelling at Ted about relegation. He knows it matters. My sense is that Ted will move towards Beard's view a little bit as he goes through therapy. The team honestly needs him to do that in order to make that next step.

Sam and Rebecca is ridiculous. Won't last but they both are gaining a lot. Sam is realizing that he is appealing, attractive and can be more confident. Even too a rich, attractive club owner. Rebecca is realizing that she can be vulnerable, take a chance and put herself out there.

Not sure what BBQ Sauce is, but I think it's a positive reminder of his dad. Something they made together or did together. Something to let him remember the good times and focus.
 
Well, that was a weird episode. Next one looks like it will be pretty dark as well.
 
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