Diamond Deshields officially to Tennessee

[Zorro]

And founder of the Ku Klux Klan.

 

[connboy77]

You're being short sighted by thinking that Taya Reimer would do a better job than Achonwa. Committing fouls? Achonwa commited far fewer fouls than Dolson and averaged just 2.2 per game. Comparatively, Reimer committed more fouls than Achonwa while playing fewer minutes. Not a strong argument if you ask me.

And again, Morgan Tuck is a good player who could blossom into a very good player at UCONN, but I think you're overestimating her impact. This year she was averaging 7.5 points, 2.4 rebounds, shot 49% from the floor and had an 8:11 assist/TO ratio before getting injured. As a freshman she averaged 6.4 points, 3.4 rebounds, 1.3 assists and shot 45% from the floor. Compare that to KML or Stewart as a freshman or sophomore....there's no comparison. Not trying to slight Tuck, but I'm not buying the argument that her taking minutes away from KML or Stewart improves UCONN.

The bottom line is that if Morgan Tuck stays healthy she will make a major impact on UCONN'S success next year. Morgan has not had an injury free year since coming to UCONN. A healthy Morgan is a dominant player, and one of the best in the country. You obviously have not seen the real Morgan yet!

 

[meyers7]

Another point UConn had big leads and opponents caught up because UConn was tired and needed a rest or went to a zone to give themselves a rest.

I don't remember that every happening last year, Tony.

 

[meyers7]

And founder of the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't believe, from what I have read, he was a founder. But "supposedly" joined soon after it started up and was possibly a/the "Grand Wizard". He was certainly very involved. Although later in life he distanced himself from the Klan.

 

[Kibitzer]

And founder of the Ku Klux Klan.

I don't believe, from what I have read, he was a founder. But "supposedly" joined soon after it started up and was possibly a/the "Grand Wizard". He was certainly very involved. Although later in life he distanced himself from the Klan.

Most likely as he got closer and closer to Judgment Day, he simply wanted to cover all his earthly tracks.

 

[triaddukefan]

Well this thread has taken an odd turn since the last time i checked it

 

[calpedaler]

Well this thread has taken an odd turn since the last time i checked it

That's such a rarity on the Boneyard.

 

[BooRadley]

Well this thread has taken an odd turn since the last time i checked it

DD --> UT's Championship chances --> ND's Achonwa --> Vile Summitteers --> KKK & the a confederate General.....

Heck, odd turns are key to our charm, or is it that they're key to our gloriously manifested disfunction... I keep getting those two mixed up.


"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a Boo"

 

[CL82]

I actually like DD to Tennessee. It makes the wins so much sweeter when the opponents actually believe they have a chance. Case in point, this year's national championship.

That said, we are, of course, doooooomed.

 

[hoopfan515]

Agreed. Since it's summertime, I'll jot down some observations that have been in my mind for a while. Just haven't had the occasion or time to air them.

The challenge to LV fans generally is to demand that the haters -- and I mean several downright, scary-sick haters -- either:

• produce confirmed, relevant facts showing recruiting violations, or
• stop making the incessant accusations.

The principal recruitment of Maya Moore took place in 2005, and she committed in April of her junior year. One can agree with AVF's comment that this stuff is old news, while noting the amazing fact that certain LV fans are such sick haters that they continue to go on about it nine years later.

Mostly, among even some of the more mainstream LV fan crowd, it's generalized statements that Geno is unethical, lacks integrity, is a cheater, etc. It's more than just a few who drop those comments routinely, because they heard it on the Summitt, from each other.

When inclined to mention specifics, they go on about condos and handbags. Still. To this day.

And without having a darned thing to back up their accusations, they proceed -- talk about vile -- to say things like Maya's mom pimped her daughter, her handbags were ugly anyway, she was too poor and too untalented to afford her "luxurious" lifestyle in Connecticut, etc.

Yes, the word vile fits these haters to a block T.

When the most intelligent accusatory posts are those saying the writers don't know anything, the stench of bearing false witness ought to be noticeable. But, aha!, they say the reason they don't know anything is that it was set up that way, so no one could follow the money.

And therefore the fact that they don't know anything relevant means it was crooked. The alternative conclusion, that there was no "it" there, doesn't suit their purposes.

Am reminded of a post by one of the haters a few years ago, a rather intelligent post actually, as far as it went, in which she laid out about a dozen unanswered questions about Kathryn Moore's finances. The answers to these questions would've been pertinent if one were investigating a possible violation.

The hater in question thought she was conveying the message, "Look how suspicious it is that there are all these questions." What she was actually conveying was, "We don't have the answers to any of these questions, yet we'll go on drawing the worst summary conclusions and state them as fact."

Earth to haters:

• You don't know anything relevant about Ms. Moore's handbag business. You don't know anything about the sales figures. You don't know anything about the purchasers. You don't know anything about her deal with the bookstore. Yet you say the business was just a means of UConn funneling cash to Ms. Moore -- a blatant NCAA violation as to which you have no confirmed facts and which, BTW, Geno would be crazy to risk his program to do even if he had, as you suggest, no scruples about "it."

• And along the way you necessarily, although you don't seem to realize it, imply that there was no reporting of Ms. Moore's profits anywhere (whatever they were; you have no idea) -- including to the IRS, so she was also committing tax fraud.

How astounding. You can't get other people's tax or small business financial information. Very suspicious, except that's how it is in this country absent a legitimate purpose. And your purpose is far from legitimate. Yet that's your justification for making any unsubstantiated accusations you want to.

As to the condo, earth to haters:

• Again, you have scant anecdotal (high school hallway) information the elder Ms. Moore intended to live in a condo. You have no idea the details of the unit, where it was located, what its fair rental value was, what Ms. Moore paid for it, to whom she paid it -- nothing. Nada.

• Oooooo, but that's because the condo was owned by a shadowy "holding company." There's the smoking gun. Earth to haters: it's perfectly common for condo units to be owned by corporations or LLCs. They do so for investment and production of rental income. (And it would make sense that Ms. Moore paid rent if she was only going to be there for four years.) It's so common that many condo agreements specify, and the major lenders insist, that at least 50 percent of the units in a condominium be "owner occupied" so that there are people on the premises with a real stake in keeping the overall place up.

• So corporate or LLC ownership is not because anyone is trying to hide who owns the unit. It's a common method of consolidating investments while maintaining limited liability. And ownership isn't even the relevant question. The relevant questions are fair rental value and what was paid.

• So that vacuum of confirmed facts is the basis for routine accusations that UConn "gave" Ms. Moore a condo. Have you no ethics, no integrity?

"Oh, but it's broader than that," a couple of the worst haters will say. "We know from former LV players that Geno did bad things in recruiting them." No specifics.

Earth to haters: You're invited to specify if you could ever find the strength to emerge from innuendo.

But we also know stuff from former players. We know of stuff Ms. Summitt did personally "by mistake" (implying an inadvertent secondary violation -- as to secondary violations, TN has several more known ones than UConn does).

And as to non-public ones, we just don't feel the need to talk about them in every other post like you do, or at all. If the former players want to talk publicly about it, that's their prerogative.

But haters gotta hate. Their first purpose is to vent their hatred as they simmer past the point of tender in sour grape juice. Their second purpose, despite all evidence that it doesn't work because people consider the source, is to hurt UConn.

There's no reason to expect they'll stop. And no reason -- although it'd be decent -- to expect other LV fans will call them out for it or that the Summitt mods will put a stop to it (in the case of one of the worst haters, a rather fatuous thought).

This isn't intended to put our LV fan posters, who are good people and not haters or malicious ignoramuses (now there's a compliment), on the spot.

If anything, it might enlighten a bit as to why reasonable people, especially including UConn fans but also elements in the media and elsewhere -- find a certain cadre of LV fans to be loathsome libel and innuendo artists.

For many on the UConn side, the hard feelings, the scabs continually picked at by these people, may never fully heal, but they'd have a better chance with time if the haters would just STFU.

But they won't. And if some kind of apologetic patch is eventually applied in the interest of getting a series started, the haters will rebel against the patch, consider it a sell-out, an affront to the former coach.

For others on both sides, we're ready to move on, and have been. If this post dignifies the accusations by responding to them in detail, or stirs the pot, it's preferable to silence, which the haters interpret as guilty silence -- rather than the more obvious conclusion that their accusations are so ignorant one loses IQ points even talking about them.

That's it on that. Love those who hate you, eh?

Well, maybe not. Surely, down there at the bottom of the pile, crawling around in the sludge, are a few exceptions that would try the patience of even the most saintly.

Now to turn to something more pleasant, like putting together my new weed whacker. Have a nice day, all.

 

[hoopfan515]

One of the best things that ever happened was the Summitt going dark... Their site deserves to remain hidden from public view.

I think Diamond transferring to Tennessee works in our favor. Had Diamond stayed at UNC, they would have been a threat to make the final four the next three years and a threat to win the NC in 2 or 3 years. I hope the rest of the freshman and young players at UNC continue to develop. They are still very talented and I wouldn't mind seeing them in a Final Four.
Diamond is not eligible to play for Tennessee next year so even if Tenn were to make the Final Four next year and I am not convinced they will, Diamond can't help them since she won't be playing. The following year Stewie will be a Senior and as someone else already mentioned I don't see Stewie losing in her Senior season. I am not sure Diamond will play more than 2 years at Tenn, but since she will be playing alongside her good friend Tea who knows.

Before the Summitt went dark, I remember some of their posters boasting about how very deep and talented the class of 13 was. They had very high expectations. One of the ingredients of our success, is if and when we have a down year in recruiting, UCONN usually bounces back with a stellar class the following year. And it also helps when the majority of the talent in one class is spread out over several other teams.

 

[Bayareahusky]

Yes, HF515, I too am glad they have Diamond.... first of all for Diamond's sake, because everybody should be in the place where they are happiest. And for the LV's sake, for they had wanted her badly all along and now they have her.....

A lot of questions ... my biggest question remains how successful the coaching scheme will be.... with Diamond (who seems to have a univision mentality) and her influence on the rest of the team .... another question.... how well will she do....?? Obviously hopes are through the roof in KVille.... the same they were when Mercedes came last summer.... and to be a wet blanket for conjecture sake, if Mercedes was #1 overall and she was less than impressive last year, how will Diamond, #3 overall in her year, perform?

On Mercedes, I know, the TN folks have said, she had problems with bunions last year and that greatly affected her mobility..... I am not a medical person, but have known several folks with bunion issues, and to have any physical activity on the feet for them at all was out of the question.... so playing all last year is curious to me.... but I will not make any suppositions....

the other thing I wonder about Diamonds team is will Dangerfield join her hometown team with Te'a in the backcourt?

It will all be very interesting.

 

[jdubct]

Yes, HF515, I too am glad they have Diamond.... first of all for Diamond's sake, because everybody should be in the place where they are happiest. And for the LV's sake, for they had wanted her badly all along and now they have her.....

A lot of questions ... my biggest question remains how successful the coaching scheme will be.... with Diamond (who seems to have a univision mentality) and her influence on the rest of the team .... another question.... how well will she do....?? Obviously hopes are through the roof in KVille.... the same they were when Mercedes came last summer.... and to be a wet blanket for conjecture sake, if Mercedes was #1 overall and she was less than impressive last year, how will Diamond, #3 overall in her year, perform?

On Mercedes, I know, the TN folks have said, she had problems with bunions last year and that greatly affected her mobility..... I am not a medical person, but have known several folks with bunion issues, and to have any physical activity on the feet for them at all was out of the question.... so playing all last year is curious to me.... but I will not make any suppositions....

the other thing I wonder about Diamonds team is will Dangerfield join her hometown team with Te'a in the backcourt?

It will all be very interesting.

I would think that Dangerfield will be looking elsewhere. She has lots of great college basketball school options.

 

[meyers7]

with Diamond (who seems to have a univision mentality)

Sabado Gigante!!!

 

[RSHERMVIKES]

O2 and a sedative STAT!!!!

I like Margo, however this is really over the top....I'm worried she may hurt herself

I agree, she usually goes crazy at the drop of a hat but this is insanity! In DD's 2 years at ROCKY TOP NATION, (she's not going to play her extra year as she'll turn pro) she and TN will NOT even make the Final 4 let alone win a NC! Then Margo can drink the "koolaid" and go to checkerboard heaven! I wonder if DD cut the same deal with Holly she cut with Sylvia to let her alone and let her do her thing without TN coaching interfering!

 

[JS]

I agree, she usually goes crazy at the drop of a hat but this is insanity! In DD's 2 years at ROCKY TOP NATION, (she's not going to play her extra year as she'll turn pro) she and TN will NOT even make the Final 4 let alone win a NC! Then Margo can drink the "koolaid" and go to checkerboard heaven! I wonder if DD cut the same deal with Holly she cut with Sylvia to let her alone and let her do her thing without TN coaching interfering!

Geez, VIKES, you burn with a white-hot intensity, and maybe not just because of the habitual exclamation points after every sentence.

Must say your posts, even though generally within the rules (sometimes barely, and sometimes only after a little pruning) always attract a moderator's attention.

Well, we have to do something to keep busy.

Not saying you should change, but will note that you're responding to a post recommending O2 and a sedative for someone else. Maybe Margo would be amenable to sharing.

 

[stwainfan]

A new ESPN article with comments by Parker. http://m.espn.go.com/ncw/story?storyId=11094786

 

[RadyLady]

I agree, she usually goes crazy at the drop of a hat but this is insanity! In DD's 2 years at ROCKY TOP NATION, (she's not going to play her extra year as she'll turn pro) she and TN will NOT even make the Final 4 let alone win a NC! Then Margo can drink the "koolaid" and go to checkerboard heaven! I wonder if DD cut the same deal with Holly she cut with Sylvia to let her alone and let her do her thing without TN coaching interfering!

my comment was tongue in cheek as I genuinely like Margo. I really don't like what you are saying but mostly, I don't like my post being associated with yours - at all.

 

[watanabe]

I believe she just got tired of getting A's for classes she didn't have to attend (I'm just saying).
Real achievers get disillusioned real quick with that kind of establishment.
Good for UT for getting her out of there.

 

[Bayareahusky]

Good article by ESPN, and again, good luck to Diamond when she starts up play in KVille.

 

[Zorro]

I haven't seen this aspect mentioned, but I may just have missed it. If, indeed, DD is transferring to UT because her buddy Cooper is going there, that COUILD create some chemistry problems; not quite a sister deal, but smacking thereof. We all know how leery Geno has been of package deals, and why he has. If DD does not think that Cooper is getting enough playing time or being used properly, or vice versa, if other players come to feel that one of them is getting special treatment because of her relationship to the other, or that they are not relating to the other players as equal teammates, etc. Could create some problems.

 

[HuskyNan]

And with our first post flirting with harmful speculation, it's time to put a fork in this thread.