DePaul's next head coach?

[freescooter]

This is a great suggestion. I think he would leave.

I think Moser will other options. Good grief you guys say a UConn assistant shouldn’t take the head coaching job a Fordham yet you want a successful Head Coach to leave a great set up to go to a place that hasn’t had success in 40 years? I wouldn’t wish the DePaul job on Kim Jung Un. The other thing. The Big East is a big deal in its original footprint. Elsewhere not so much. If you have a choice between the Big East and the Big 10 and you’re in Chicago it is an easy one and you aren’t going East.

 

[bendm]

If you have a choice between the Big East and the Big 10 and you’re in Chicago it is an easy one and you aren’t going East.

DL made more money than collinsworth does at NW. Depaul can and has recruited circles around NW with their academic restrictions. DL had a top 25 class coming in, does NW? no. go away.

 

[olehead]

I assumed a Chi-town recruits choice between DePaul and say the Illini or Michigan. I damn near forgot about NW. Love NW's J school though, my cousin is a grad and it has served her well through the years.

 

[BackAftaThis]

I hear you on not knowing how he would be as a head coach but the guy was considered arguably the top assistant coach/recruiter in the country and has a really good reputation as a big man coach. He's getting older and word is his goal is to be a head coach. Has a close relationship with DePaul's AD from when they were together at Kentucky. Makes a lot of sense because it would give DePaul a ton of juice in recruiting, he's about as connected around the country as it gets and there's always a bunch of talent in and around Chicago.

I think they are highly interested in Moser but haven't heard he wants the job. My guess is Kenny Payne or Dennis Gates.

Genuinely asking if his goal was to be a college HC then why would he leave for the NBA?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I think Moser will other options. Good grief you guys say a UConn assistant shouldn’t take the head coaching job a Fordham yet you want a successful Head Coach to leave a great set up to go to a place that hasn’t had success in 40 years? I wouldn’t wish the DePaul job on Kim Jung Un. The other thing. The Big East is a big deal in its original footprint. Elsewhere not so much. If you have a choice between the Big East and the Big 10 and you’re in Chicago it is an easy one and you aren’t going East.

Big East = bad. Got it. Are you even a UConn fan?

 

[UconnFanDC]

I think Moser will other options. Good grief you guys say a UConn assistant shouldn’t take the head coaching job a Fordham yet you want a successful Head Coach to leave a great set up to go to a place that hasn’t had success in 40 years? I wouldn’t wish the DePaul job on Kim Jung Un. The other thing. The Big East is a big deal in its original footprint. Elsewhere not so much. If you have a choice between the Big East and the Big 10 and you’re in Chicago it is an easy one and you aren’t going East.

Whaaaaaat! Where is Butler, Xavier and Creighton located? By the way, kids from Big Ten country went to Big East school not Notre Dame often. Ryan Boatright, Caron Butler, Philip Nolan , Marcus White, Khalid just to name a few. DePaul had some really good players come through there under coach Dave. He has had some underachieving teams. Period!

 

[freescooter]

LOL. Yeah. Their motto is DePaul Basketball. Underachieving since 1995! You do realize that they have more 1 conference Win seasons than winning conference seasons and since joining the Big East, they have had exactly 1 season above .500 in the league and 2 whole seasons with winning records overall. I think 4 since 1995. Sometimes things just are what they seem. DePaul is a mid major playing in a league that is above them. They belong in the A10.

 

[freescooter]

Big East = bad. Got it. Are you even a UConn fan?

The Big East is fine. It is a better basketball league than say the A10 but it is probably 6 th among the majors. And it is not viewed as a big deal outside more or less the original footprint. And guss what? In Chicago they don’t fetishize playing in Madison Square Garden. Even in Indianapolis they don’t. That particular fetish is largely limited to UConn fans near as I can see but certainly limited to northeastern Big East fans. look at every measure, top 25, tv ratings, reputation of the schools, every one the New Big East is behind the P5. The others should be throwing money at Villanova because without them it would be the American.
Yeah Nelson, I’m a UConn fan. But I’m realistic about the Big East. It’s best years are far behind us. It’s a step back for every UConn program except men’s basketball.

 

[aburks41]

Well, he'd upgrade their recruiting at the very least. Can the guy actually coach, though? Or just recruit?

I'd prefer Moser if I were them. He's one of the best college coaches out there.

Payne leaving is the main reason why UK was awful this year. He ran the show at Kentucky. Calipari just took all the credit for it

 

[auggie22]

The Big East is fine. It is a better basketball league than say the A10 but it is probably 6 th among the majors. And it is not viewed as a big deal outside more or less the original footprint. And guss what? In Chicago they don’t fetishize playing in Madison Square Garden. Even in Indianapolis they don’t. That particular fetish is largely limited to UConn fans near as I can see but certainly limited to northeastern Big East fans. look at every measure, top 25, tv ratings, reputation of the schools, every one the New Big East is behind the P5. The others should be throwing money at Villanova because without them it would be the American.
Yeah Nelson, I’m a UConn fan. But I’m realistic about the Big East. It’s best years are far behind us. It’s a step back for every UConn program except men’s basketball.

Please show the numbers where every BE team is lagging P5 in tv ratings.

Did you see that BE schools are littering the top 25 recruiting classes this year?

Also, wasn’t it like 2 years ago where the BE was dominating the T 25 and NCAA bids?

 

[RichZ]

Moser is getting mentioned for the Minnesota job, too.

 

[HuskyBoi]

Moser is getting mentioned for the Minnesota job, too.

He would be great anywhere he ends up

 

[RichZ]

He would be great anywhere he ends up

My diehard Loyola friend is in deep denial.

 

[freescooter]

Please show the numbers where every BE team is lagging P5 in tv ratings.

Did you see that BE schools are littering the top 25 recruiting classes this year?

Also, wasn’t it like 2 years ago where the BE was dominating the T 25 and NCAA bids?

Yeah then they all flamed out the first weekend except Villanova. It is a fine league but it is not even close to the Original Big East. And it is a cut behind the P5 in prestige. Its just what it is. Seton Hall and Creighton will never be bigger names than Duke and North Carolina or Ohio State and Michigan, especially in their home regions. I couldn’t find tv ratings for 2021 for the Big East but I’m pretty sure they were behind the P5. Between 1999 and the implosion in 2013 the big East won 5 Championships among 3 different teams. They had 2 final four teams twice and 11 in total. It was a monster. The current league has Villanova and 1 other team that has gotten to an Elite 8. By every measure Villanova is head and shoulders above the rest. Maybe UConn makes it a 2 team league. I hope so. But until proven otherwise the Big East is Villanova and the Pretenders.

 

[Get a Job]

@superjohn better be stretching because he has some dunking to do in this thread.

Nice work SJ.

I can't help but feel I am included as one of the dunk victims in this scenario. Because I am fragile, I'd like to point out that only one poster expressed skepticism about Leitao's firing, and it wasn't me. I never doubted that he would be fired. My point was only that @superjohn sometimes presents his opinions using words that normally indicate a statement of fact. This created a scenario in which he really was stating a fact, but a reasonable reader might interpret the post as an arrogantly phrased opinion. I am simply advocating the citing of sources where applicable, and, conversely, maybe an "in my opinion" where applicable.

 

[MJ1]

Yet the Big 10 hasn’t won a national title in 20 years, and the PAC 12 has not been better than the new version Big East. Nova, UConn, St. John’s and Georgetown will always keep the Big East relevant going forward. Recruiting has been on par with the other power conferences.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

I think they are highly interested in Moser but haven't heard he wants the job. My guess is Kenny Payne or Dennis Gates.

Dennis Gates would be my #2 option if they can’t get Moser. Turned Cleveland State around in a short time. Were AWFUL.

Gates to DePaul is a similar hire to Hurley to UConn, hire the young, passionate coach with a lot of fire and high expectations for his kids.

 

[tzznandrew]

Yet the Big 10 hasn’t won a national title in 20 years

The Big 10 has had 7 participants in the title game over that stretch. It's not like they're the Pac.

 

[Tex-Lager93]

Dennis Gates would be my #2 option if they can’t get Moser. Turned Cleveland State around in a short time. Were AWFUL.

Gates to DePaul is a similar hire to Hurley to UConn, hire the young, passionate coach with a lot of fire and high expectations for his kids.

I know the sample size is still somewhat limited as a head coach - but you could argue Dennis should be the #1 option. A city kid from Chicago - won the Illinois State Championship (with Quentin Richardson)...he could own the recruiting there.

 

[UConnJim]

BC is 100 times better. It isn’t easy but you can succeed there. You have far more stuff to sell recruits from the campus to plying in the best basketball conference. They have had success in this century. Yes they had 2 bad choices and that has set them back but it isn’t impossible to succeed there. DePaul has finished last in the Big East 10 times in there 15 years in the leagues and has gone to zero NCAA tournament. 1 NIT bid since leaving CUSA. They serve one function in the league. To Prevent teams from ever going 0-20. Moser is Better off staying at Loyola than getting involved in that muck pit.

I think you are living in the past.

BC basketball started going south after they joined the ACC, but they did carry over their Big East success for the first 2 years in the ACC. I was a BC basketball season ticket holder and saw the collapse in performance and fan interest. BC lost all of their regional rivals when they joined the ACC although Syracuse later joined them in the ACC. They still don't have a basketball practice facility. And, there is little interest from the BC administration to invest in basketball which is why they have gone after cheap head coaches.

Jim O'Brien and Al Skinner were the last 2 coaches that had "success" at BC. O'Brien was there 11 years and had a record of 168-166 with a conference record of 64-114. Skinner was there 13 years and had a record of 247-165 with a conference record of 106-106.

In contrast, DePaul opened up a new basketball arena in 2017 that seats 10K, so they are serious about basketball.

 

[Jbirdp5]

Payne leaving is the main reason why UK was awful this year. He ran the show at Kentucky. Calipari just took all the credit for it

I had not heard that before, I knew of his recruiting prowess but not “running the show”
Very surprising, this is somewhat common knowledge?

 

[Jbirdp5]

Yeah then they all flamed out the first weekend except Villanova. It is a fine league but it is not even close to the Original Big East. And it is a cut behind the P5 in prestige. Its just what it is. Seton Hall and Creighton will never be bigger names than Duke and North Carolina or Ohio State and Michigan, especially in their home regions. I couldn’t find tv ratings for 2021 for the Big East but I’m pretty sure they were behind the P5. Between 1999 and the implosion in 2013 the big East won 5 Championships among 3 different teams. They had 2 final four teams twice and 11 in total. It was a monster. The current league has Villanova and 1 other team that has gotten to an Elite 8. By every measure Villanova is head and shoulders above the rest. Maybe UConn makes it a 2 team league. I hope so. But until proven otherwise the Big East is Villanova and the Pretenders.

Can’t find the tv rankings but your pretty sure anyway lol

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Dave Leitao

 

[aburks41]

I had not heard that before, I knew of his recruiting prowess but not “running the show”
Very surprising, this is somewhat common knowledge?

I’ve read the UK forum from time to time over the years. They all seemed to agree that Payne is the reason behind all the success, and this year proved them right. He was the main recruiter and player developer. It’s not a coincidence that UK goes from a top 15 team every year to under .500 the first year Kenny left. If I’m IU, I’m giving that guy a blank check

 

[Huskymagic]

BC is 100 times better. It isn’t easy but you can succeed there. You have far more stuff to sell recruits from the campus to plying in the best basketball conference. They have had success in this century. Yes they had 2 bad choices and that has set them back but it isn’t impossible to succeed there. DePaul has finished last in the Big East 10 times in there 15 years in the leagues and has gone to zero NCAA tournament. 1 NIT bid since leaving CUSA. They serve one function in the league. To Prevent teams from ever going 0-20. Moser is Better off staying at Loyola than getting involved in that muck pit.

Agreed that the Boston College job is much better than the DePaul gig. No denying that.

I’m ok with DePaul being a perennial doormat.

If they’re smart they would still reach out to Loyola Chicago coach and make their case. He will have P5 offers already starting with Minnesota job.

 

[superjohn]

Agreed that the Boston College job is much better than the DePaul gig. No denying that.

I’m ok with DePaul being a perennial doormat.

If they’re smart they would still reach out to Loyola Chicago coach and make their case. He will have P5 offers already starting with Minnesota job.

It's not, BC job is about as bad as it gets. DePaul has made terrible hires for a long time but if you hire the right guy you can turn it around there in a hurry by getting the top Chicagoland talent and the fans are just waiting for them to be good. BC doesn't care about the hoops team and neither does the city.

 

[tzznandrew]

It's not, BC job is about as bad as it gets. DePaul has made terrible hires for a long time but if you hire the right guy you can turn it around there in a hurry by getting the top Chicagoland talent and the fans are just waiting for them to be good. BC doesn't care about the hoops team and neither does the city.

DePaul's best friend is that we showed up and essentially neutered recruiting for PC, Seton Hall, and likely St. John's. Makes the climb up easier.

 

[Ewekon]

The Vatican has pre approved Pitino, vis a vis Iona. Just sayin'

 

[navery12]

 

[Jbirdp5]

Payne just interviewing because it’s his friend or seriously interested? That would be an exciting hire.