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DePaul Post Game Thread

uh-no said:
depaul scored 10 points in 3 minutes in the second half with liam on the floor. that is not good defense.
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UConn was up 53-36 through 26 minutes and 12 seconds of game play when Liam got hurt.

I hope you're able to sleep again.
 
RuffRuff said:
Not sure why we keep talking about Nowell - until Dan Hurley is ready to use him, continuing to talk about him isn’t going to send a telepathic epiphany to the staff. Got to hope the guys actually playing get better.

Solo shot the 3 at a blistering level today - made up+ for his deficiencies elsewhere. Not sure we can expect 7-9 often. He did have his best rebounding game of the year. He also had a few takes that were well timed, just looks afraid in traffic.

There were moments in the first half where the offense being run had glimpses of 2024, and that was encouraging. You can see the core guys starting to find a rythym.

The foul imbalance was hard to discern in this one as while the refs did look bad in spots, the imbalance has been consistent all year. Most of what went bad in this one was in a second half when we lost our best player and during foul trouble. Hard to be too critical of that. Our bench guys are not interchangeable with our starters, they’re there for breathers. There is a cliff in quality other than Reed when we hit our bench.
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I am guessing we are talking about Nowell for the following reasons:
1) Hurley made statements that he would be trying to find Nowell more minutes.
2) When he played there has been good and bad. But flashes that he may be the fastest/quickest player on the team.
3) We are not very deep at the guard position.
4) Before McNeeley got injured he was handling the ball more in this game and he has been involved more and more in bringing the ball up and getting us into our offense sets.
5) It was clear without either he and Diarra in the game we seem to be running our offense about three beats slower.
6) We are not very deep at guard and guard play is a must in college basketball.
7) There are probably a few points I am missing.

I hope he is healthy or if he is not then we are being abundantly cautious with his return. We all know shoulders can be career changers if not dealt with correctly the first time they pop up.

I think it is impossible to be a UConn fan and not wonder what’s up with Nowell.
 
JustbrewitMan said:
The NBA has shown they are more than willing to draft players and develop them on their rosters. If Solo finishes the year as a 45% 3pt shooter on high volume with clear athleticism and potential, he'll get some interest.

Not saying I agree with it, but it is what it is nowadays.
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Yeah but those are normally 3 and D guys who are 6-5 plus or if smaller can create off the bounce. I just don't see it with Ball at this time.
 
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87Xfer said:
So how do you propose the staff decides who gets game minutes if not performance in practice? Just play everybody and see how they do?
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Without seeing how guys actually do in practice I don’t want to jump to assume anything about how guys may or may not be performing. None of us know how they are actually practicing.

It’s a consistent theme during the Hurley era of freshman having a very hard time finding playing time unless they are top 10 one and done caliber recruits that kind of have to play though. But a transfer who is struggling like Mahaney or in the past Alleyne get all the rope in the world.

We used to see freshman play all the time in other eras. I wonder how much of it is them actually not being ready or Hurley not trusting them because of the fact they are freshman and not wanting to invest in them. But this discussion has been beaten to death.
 
auror said:
Not true. We hit a 3 after they cut it to 9 to push it back to 12, they put it back to 10 and we hit another 3, and they never got it closer than 11 after that.
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My bad I swear it got to 7 when a Depaul guy was going to the line after a foul. I guess I got my events mixed up then as the score changed quick both ways in a short span.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Without seeing how guys actually do in practice I don’t want to jump to assume anything about how guys may or may not be performing. None of us know how they are actually practicing.

It’s a consistent theme during the Hurley era of freshman having a very hard time finding playing time unless they are top 10 one and done caliber recruits that kind of have to play though. But a transfer who is struggling like Mahaney or in the past Alleyne get all the rope in the world.

We used to see freshman play all the time in other eras. I wonder how much of it is them actually not being ready or Hurley not trusting them because of the fact they are freshman and not wanting to invest in them. But this discussion has been beaten to death.
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So your answer to the question is "I don't know".
 
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I think before the McNeeley injury we were starting to see this team come together. McNeeley as primary ball handler on many possessions. He has started to feel more comfortable with being the guy.

We should all realize now that this kid is special. Fingers crossed and he is back sooner than later. Said it three weeks ago. All respect to AK but Liam is our best player and it may not be close.

I also wish we would stop asking why Ross is coming in before Stewart. It is obvious and honestly fairly obvious for some time. Offense is not an issue for our starting five it is defense.

Also we see Hurley really rode Samson in the second half. I think against bigger teams if they both (Reed/Johnson) stay clean with their fouls we will see them both on the floor more than we may expect. I think one area Johnson has improved is passing and he may be perfect to use at the foul line area feeding then Reed in the post then rim running for an offense rebound or return pass if they double team.

I just think Reed is too talented offensively to only play 14 minutes. He was able to get 7 rebounds in those limited minutes.

Certainly McNeeley’s ankle is a big concern, but I made a comment in the chat that see in him go down took the fun out of this game. The reason I made the comment was it seemed to me that we were really starting to see the team take shape.

So fingers crossed because then team we saw today before Liam went down is easily an elite eight team. Even with the lack of guards. McNeeley will be almost evenly sharing the ball handling with Diarra as the season progresses. And not because of Diarra’s play. 9 assists and 1 turn over is elite. Without the fouls he would have 12-14 assists today.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
I think before the McNeeley injury we were starting to see this team come together. McNeeley as primary ball handler on many possessions. He has started to feel more comfortable with being the guy.

We should all realize now that this kid is special. Fingers crossed and he is back sooner than later. Said it three weeks ago. All respect to AK but Liam is our best player and it may not be close.

I also wish we would stop asking why Ross is coming in before Stewart. It is obvious and honestly fairly obvious for some time. Offense is not an issue for our starting five it is defense.

Also we see Hurley really rode Samson in the second half. I think against bigger teams if they both (Reed/Johnson) stay clean with their fouls we will see them both on the floor more than we may expect. I think one area Johnson has improved is passing and he may be perfect to use at the foul line area feeding then Reed in the post then rim running for an offense rebound or return pass if they double team.

I just think Reed is too talented offensively to only play 14 minutes. He was able to get 7 rebounds in those limited minutes.

Certainly McNeeley’s ankle is a big concern, but I made a comment in the chat that see in him go down took the fun out of this game. The reason I made the comment was it seemed to me that we were really starting to see the team take shape.

So fingers crossed because then team we saw today before Liam went down is easily an elite eight team. Even with the lack of guards. McNeeley will be almost evenly sharing the ball handling with Diarra as the season progresses. And not because of Diarra’s play. 9 assists and 1 turn over is elite. Without the fouls he would have 12-14 assists today.
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I think we were trying to GET McNeeley comfortable there, but he did have 5 TOs. He's learning but clearly our second best i initiator
 
Hunt for 7 said:
Made that exact comment in the chat. That’s why I really don’t understand giving Nowell a shot at it. Perfect game we were up double digits so we could survive a freshman gaff.
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Maybe these results will enable Dan Hurley to make a fair case to justify increasing Nowell's minutes. Everyone is contesting for playing time and production both in practice and during games is the crucible they are tried in.
 
I’m not one to blame the refs but wow! There were some really bizarre calls in that game. One on Mahaney where the guy elbowed him, then followed it up by charging and Mahaney gets hit with the foul. I mean you can call a foul on every play probably, but if you do at least call them evenly.
 
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Waquoit said:
You liked that quick hook crap?
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Yup. Held everyone accountable no matter who you were. Gave everyone a chance to play and show what you can do no matter who you were.

He had a vision for every guy he brought in because he brought them in for a reason. He didn’t bring guys in and make them prove to him why he brought them in.
 
uh-no said:
depaul scored 10 points in 3 minutes in the second half with liam on the floor. that is not good defense.
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3 minutes is how you judge his defense and impact on the our team? This is an insane place.
 
JustbrewitMan said:
Agree they got a way with a ton of clutching & grabbling. Also, I swear I counted at least a half-dozen instances where the DePaul defender literally shoved our guys who were coming out from the foul line to go set screens and not a single foul was called. It's easy to play tough defense when you can completely glue up off-ball movement and offensive play flow with those maneuvers.
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One DePaul player (D’Amico I think) put two hands on Alex’s back and shoved him into another DePaul player. The ref stood 10 feet away, watched the whole thing, and called a foul on Alex.
 
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husky429 said:
I think we were trying to GET McNeeley comfortable there, but he did have 5 TOs. He's learning but clearly our second best i initiator
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He got stripped and/or lost control while getting in to traffic in the lane. His learning curve so far this season suggests he'll get better at keeping control of the ball in the traffic.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Yup. Held everyone accountable no matter who you were. Gave everyone a chance to play and show what you can do no matter who you were.

He had a vision for every guy he brought in because he brought them in for a reason. He didn’t bring guys in and make them prove to him why he brought them in.
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There must be 2 Jim Calhouns
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Yup. Held everyone accountable no matter who you were.
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That how the story goes. But it's not true. KEA never got the quick hook. Because JC knew he wouldn't put up with it.
 
This team has a lot of potential and a chance to make some noise in March. We only need to look back two years when we lost back-to-back games to St. John’s and Seton Hall and everyone was losing their minds. That team turned out to be pretty good.

Liam, AK, Diarra, Solo, Reed and Samson will get quality minutes. Everything else is up for grabs. We clearly need to find a secondary ball handler to rest Diarra for 5-10 minutes per game. Mahaney could be that option, but Solo and Mahaney on the floor at the same time is not a viable option at this point. That would be a serious problem on the defensive end.
 
aceboon said:
There must be 2 Jim Calhouns
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You said previously that you spaced through the good old BE era so maybe you saw 2 Jim Calhouns.
 
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