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DePaul Post Game Thread

HuskyHawk said:
I'll say the same thing I've said before, he plays like he's allergic to contact. Twists away from it, launches floaters instead of going to the rim, angles away from the defender and theows up bank shots. I don't know what his injury history is, and he does have a fairly slight build, but he does not want to bang on people inside. Until he does, he (a) won't get foul calls and (b) makes every shot far more difficult than it would be.
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Seen him go full speed and jump aggressively at the basket plenty of times over the past two years. Almost everyone results in an offensive foul

He’s not scared of contact at all, he just doesn’t have the dribble moves to beat his man, or the jumper to open up the slashing lanes. We see him banging bodies on the defensive end and on the glass all the time
 
Haven’t read through this whole thread but I assume there’s some discussion about the first extended burn for Alleyne since basically Portland.

Are they getting him ready to have AJ in foul trouble? Did they focus on getting him going last night and will give more run to Joey or Hassan vs Georgetown? Did he earn it in practice?

He hit a couple jays early on but seemed to be pressing and forced things a bit.
 
aburks41 said:
If we run the table we would be back on the 2 seed line. Wins over Bama, Iowa State, Creighton 2x, PC, Marquette, Nova 2x. That would be a damn good resume.

That St Johns and Seton Hall loss are total killers. We should be sitting at 4 losses right now with a shot at a 1 seed. Oh well
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25-6
14-6 in conference

Probably won’t happen. I think 23-8(12-8) is much more likely. But we’d all have taken it at the beginning of the year
 
Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
Haven’t read through this whole thread but I assume there’s some discussion about the first extended burn for Alleyne since basically Portland.

Are they getting him ready to have AJ in foul trouble? Did they focus on getting him going last night and will give more run to Joey or Hassan vs Georgetown? Did he earn it in practice?

He hit a couple jays early on but seemed to be pressing and forced things a bit.
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Alleyne, as flawed as he is, is a much better pairing with Newton. I wonder if the staff is recognizing that and preparing that lineup for extended run in the BET.
 
AntG168 said:
25-6
14-6 in conference

Probably won’t happen. I think 23-8(12-8) is much more likely. But we’d all have taken it at the beginning of the year
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23-8 and 12-8 is my guess as well. I don't think people realize that we already played all the hardest league games, except maybe @Nova, and @Creighton.
 
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Conndog said:
Call to coaching staff- work with Andre to help him transition into scoring forward. Do drills so he learns how to shot fake, pivot for a shot, take the ball while defended into the lane to shoot a good shot or be fouled, how to seal off defender, maybe how to use backboard more for close shots. I think his confidence will re-grow as he sees a new, more effective part of his game growing. He needs to learn how to shoot a pull-up jumper when in the lane.
One thing I love, though, is when he brings the ball up court , he is across the mid-court line in about 2 seconds.
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Yeah, it baffles me to this day he can't do a mid range jumper. He just tries that silly floater. Why haven't the coaches been working with him on this?
 
MuchoDogYears said:
Haven’t seen it mentioned but Samson had good minutes in the 1st half.
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Yeah, he played decently and was wondering why he didn't come in for Karaban when in foul trouble. He would of been better than Jackson out there at least for this game.
 
Umami Zen said:
Subtle but effective.. Have noticed that Newton and Hawk have been "selling" the refs on getting fouled.. Result--Our two best FT shooters getting to the line with more frequency where they are both money.. Will pay dividends at crunch time in BET/Tournament games.
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Hawkins seems to have a knack for getting fouled on 3 point attempts more than anyone I can remember in recent memory. Maybe Shabazz comes to mind?
 
krinklecut said:
Serious question - can Sanogo dunk? What’s his vertical?
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Hes quicker off the glass. And hes ultra quick with his release. He doesn't have quick twitch explosiveness on the jump. It takes him longer to dunk, and playing deep in the paint a tenth of a second is everything.

Huge example last night. He did try to dunk once, got stuffed, but before anyone can blink he grabbed the ball back and floated one up for a hoop.


I used to want him to dunk everything. He would if he could. He cant. Not in close range play. He is fine dunking on the run.
 
UCLJ0211 said:
Hawkins seems to have a knack for getting fouled on 3 point attempts more than anyone I can remember in recent memory. Maybe Shabazz comes to mind?
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Agree with you..They were/are both creative with using their legs to draw fouls/contact while in the shooting motion.
 
3rdbass said:
Yeah, he played decently and was wondering why he didn't come in for Karaban when in foul trouble. He would of been better than Jackson out there at least for this game.
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Because he didn't really. And he still needs game shape and he gets lost.

It was no coincidence that his run ended after a 20 second sequence where he airballed (by a lot) a wide open 3 where he had more space than what teams give Andre, and then on subsequent defensive possession he ended up with a ball on a steal and we had what would've amounted to a 3-1 break, and he sailed an easy pass into the scorers table. No. We would not have been better off.

I like Samson Johnsons upside potential, I hope he can be a player for us. He has a lot of things going for him, and Im sure at some point this year he will have something to say, but at the same time we've seen him for 2 years now, he didn't play last year (for a reason) and this year he was injured, but he has never shown us anything that would meet the BY's expectations for him during his limited floor minutes. He just may end up doing so someday, but February is not the time to try and break in a player who has never really given you anything hoping that he will turn into DeAndre Daniels overnight. If we were 11-13 instead of 17-6, fine rebuild for next year. We are fighting for a lot of things this year still. You want to experiment?
 
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Ho hum it’s DePaul moving can’t get a true evaluation from this game.
 
krinklecut said:
Serious question - can Sanogo dunk? What’s his vertical?
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can't believe people are still posting this. how many games have you watched this year? how many last year? it's also not that hard to look up. he's dunked the ball 17 times this year, second on the team behind clingan.


he also gave us 25 points tonight on 10/13 while playing out-of-position for a stretch of the game. tough to criticize his performance last night.
 
August_West said:
Because he didn't really. And he still needs game shape and he gets lost.

It was no coincidence that his run ended after a 20 second sequence where he airballed (by a lot) a wide open 3 where he had more space than what teams give Andre, and then on subsequent defensive possession he ended up with a ball on a steal and we had what would've amounted to a 3-1 break, and he sailed an easy pass into the scorers table. No. We would not have been better off.

I like Samson Johnsons upside potential, I hope he can be a player for us. He has a lot of things going for him, and Im sure at some point this year he will have something to say, but at the same time we've seen him for 2 years now, he didn't play last year (for a reason) and this year he was injured, but he has never shown us anything that would meet the BY's expectations for him during his limited floor minutes. He just may end up doing so someday, but February is not the time to try and break in a player who has never really given you anything hoping that he will turn into DeAndre Daniels overnight. If we were 11-13 instead of 17-6, fine rebuild for next year. We are fighting for a lot of things this year still. You want to experiment?
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It was a real ugly game for AJ and his man went off on offense. I think Johnson's length could of helped out but either way we won. Just glad to see Johnson get some more minutes.
 
MuchoDogYears said:
Haven’t seen it mentioned but Samson had good minutes in the 1st half.
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Did he though? Like that airball and turnover? I think it's time to stop thinking he's going to help us and be a part of the rotation -- until he proves something. Maybe he becomes a hilton artmstrong and blossoms late but right now we have too many other guys ahead of him. Don't need a ten man rotation -- need 7 solid and maybe a diarra to play D for 8 minutes. Really wish we'd see more Clingan
 
elmcityboy said:
can't believe people are still posting this. how many games have you watched this year? how many last year? it's also not that hard to look up. he's dunked the ball 17 times this year, second on the team behind clingan.


he also gave us 25 points tonight on 10/13 while playing out-of-position for a stretch of the game. tough to criticize his performance last night.
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Yea obviously I know he can dunk. You say 17 like the player who gets the most time at 5 having 17 dunks over 20+ games isn’t low.

And yes, I know he gave us 25 points tonight. I didn’t say anywhere that his performance was poor or we weren’t getting production out of him.

Doesn’t mean it’s not baffling that the dude barely dunks the basketball. It’s a glaring hole in his game.
 
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