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I had DePaul getting to the Sweet 16,,,shows how much i know :eek:
 
I want to throw this out for feedback. As great as Morrow is, does anyone think her not typical DePaul ball skills sort of broke up their chemistry? There are multiple experienced prolific scorers on that team that just didn't score the ball as much this season. The 3 ball just wasn't there this year.
 
DefenseBB said:
Dayton’s Coach Shauna Green will be on the short list of candidates for a few P5 schools. This is her 6th year at Dayton and she’s been to the post season every year including 4 NCAA Tournaments. The Woman can coach and recruit.

Virginia would do well to hire her- eh @Dillon77 ?
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Absolutely should be on the short list (I see what you're doing here, DBB!;))

Shauna Green, based in Ohio, could also look at Illinois, if she wanted to stay in the Midwest. I think she could bring a lot of value to a P5 team with her ability to find solid players via "regular" recruiting (Makira Cook, Jenna Giacone) and transfers (Erin Whalen via Vandy). It might be a good year from Green to consider taking a leap: 4 of her 5 starters are either seniors and/or grad students.

I'm sure this rout has caught the attention of another midwestern RC-affiliated school that has to play an Atlantic 10 team: ND vs UMass up on Saturday evening. On your toes, Irish!
 
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DEpup said:
I want to throw this out for feedback. As great as Morrow is, does anyone think her not typical DePaul ball skills sort of broke up their chemistry? There are multiple experienced prolific scorers on that team that just didn't score the ball as much this season. The 3 ball just wasn't there this year.
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It seems that DePaul fell victim to “superstar-itis” where players stood around and waited for Aneesa to bail them out. Kind of like UConn before Paige was hurt.
 
HuskyNan said:
It seems that DePaul fell victim to “superstar-itis” where players stood around and waited for Aneesa to bail them out. Kind of like UConn before Paige was hurt.
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That does hit home.
 
We need one of the teams - other than UCONN- to get to the Sweet 16. 2 teams from the BE getting there will offset some of last night’s debacle and hopefully help with recruiting.
 
This game magnified DePaul's weaknesses. Their lack of depth was a serious problem for their style fo play. And Kierra Collier was not available for this game (not sure if she was injured?), which only exacerbated their depth issues.

But this game was also flukish in many ways. DePaul led the country in scoring but only put up 57 against Dayton, their lowest total of the season. Only UConn (60), Villanova (64), Creighton (68) and Arizona (68) had held them below 70 all season long. Dayton's defense is good but I don't think it's that good.

And Dayton, a team that averaged less than 6 made 3's per game, hit something like 10 of 12 threes in the first half alone, and at one point made 8 in a row. Some of these shots were from well beyond the arc. That's just flukish stuff, kinda like Villanova shooting over 70% in the NCAA final against Georgetown back in the 80s. Sometimes one team is hot and the other team is cold. That can happen in a "one and done" format.
 
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todbo said:
I missed the game. The box score indicates that Morrow piled up an impressive double double while the rest of the team watched. No other blue demon hit double figures in any statistic.
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Shooting nearly 30 times SHOULD result in at least 10 points (a double).
I’m unimpressed.
 
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Plebe said:
This game magnified DePaul's weaknesses. Their lack of depth was a serious problem for their style fo play. And Kierra Collier was not available for this game (not sure if she was injured?), which only exacerbated their depth issues.

But this game was also flukish in many ways. DePaul led the country in scoring but only put up 57 against Dayton, their lowest total of the season. Only UConn (60), Villanova (64), Creighton (68) and Arizona (68) had held them below 70 all season long. Dayton's defense is good but I don't think it's that good.

And Dayton, a team that averaged less than 6 made 3's per game, hit something like 10 of 12 threes in the first half alone, and at one point made 8 in a row. Some of these shots were from well beyond the arc. That's just flukish stuff, kinda like Villanova shooting over 70% in the NCAA final against Georgetown back in the 80s. Sometimes one team is hot and the other team is cold. That can happen in a "one and done" format.
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Except for the fact that Marquette scored 105 against them in a 20 point loss which was not even that close. DePaul peaked early in the year, and came down to earth at the end.
 
HuskyNan said:
It seems that DePaul fell victim to “superstar-itis” where players stood around and waited for Aneesa to bail them out. Kind of like UConn before Paige was hurt.
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Also, DePaul has been for quite awhile a run and gun team. (without a lot of defense). But when your best player (AA) is not really a run and gun player, but rather a get the ball in the post player, just doesn't seem to work too well.
 
Dillon77 said:
Absolutely should be on the short list (I see what you're doing here, DBB!;))

Shauna Green, based in Ohio, could also look at Illinois, if she wanted to stay in the Midwest……

I'm sure this rout has caught the attention of another midwestern RC-affiliated school that has to play an Atlantic 10 team: ND vs UMass up on Saturday evening. On your toes, Irish!
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No, no, no! Virginia, UVA, Wahoos! :rolleyes:

In all seriousness, while it is true she’s been in Dayton, Ohio Since 2012, HC since 2016, I would caution against Illinois simply because they do not know how to support a top WCBB program. Sometimes there are the very subtle skills that schools have to enable teams to succeed and in my view Virginia with an AD that played there and strong women’s sports program across numerous sports would allow a coach to better succeed. Just my humble opinion.
 
At least in this game, it felt like Depaul just missed focusing on good shots. That includes Morrow too because I think there were times that she forced it. Although Held didn't hit many, it didn't look like she was forcing all that much. Morris and Church took several bad shots. It's obvious that Depaul needs to find some semblance of defense. I just wonder how they don't focus more on that? How much time can you spend in practice on offense when it's mostly just people jacking shots up.
 
DePaul did not play well down the stretch. Their last 10 games were not good and it just continued. Makes you wonder if something happened to the team chemistry.
 
Dayton was hotter than a pistol, knocking down 3s at an unbelievable rate in
the first half. It was just one of those nights.

I expect Dayton to come back down to earth and lose to Georgia.
 
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HuskyNan said:
It seems that DePaul fell victim to “superstar-itis” where players stood around and waited for Aneesa to bail them out. Kind of like UConn before Paige was hurt.
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Not to be argumentative, but in 1st half Dayton was 11 for 13 from 3pt land...while DePaul couldn't hit the backboard on some of theirs...let alone put them in the hoop. But, I guess you could say DePaul upped their 3pt defense in 2nd half as Dayton only made 1 more 3.

Not a good shooting day for DePaul. They looked defeated from late in 2nd qtr.
 
I gave up on the game at half-time but, from what I saw, DePaul players fell into the trap of individual effort rather than team effort. It seemed like every trip down the court, one player would dribble and shoot without any kind of playmaking going on. This included Morrow on one occasion when she dribbled down to the post and then had her shot blocked. In fact, I think she had her shot blocked twice in the first half. I credit Dayton's defense. They may be trouble for Georgia.
 
todbo said:
I missed the game. The box score indicates that Morrow piled up an impressive double double while the rest of the team watched. No other blue demon hit double figures in any statistic.
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Morrow had defeated body language and slowly went back on defense…and that happened in first half! Not a good look for FOY candidate.
 
cohenzone said:
Doug Bruno will never bring a team to be a serious post season threat. His teams play lousy D. His teams can be dangerous because they usually can score, but if you can’t defend in the post season, forget about it.
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Have they ever actually beat a top 5 caliber team? I'll give Bruno props for making DePaul such a consistent team the last 20 years, but I don't think they've ever pulled a notable upset. Has he ever beat UCONN in his career?
 
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bballnut90 said:
Have they ever actually beat a top 5 caliber team? I'll give Bruno props for making DePaul such a consistent team the last 20 years, but I don't think they've ever pulled a notable upset. Has he ever beat UCONN in his career?
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Just off the top of my head, they beat Stanford in the Nneka/Chiney years by like 20.

And voila. Google knows all.

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No. 22/25 DePaul Stuns No. 3/2 Stanford - DePaul University Athletics

Dec. 16, 2010 Bluetube: Highlights | Postgame Interview Photo Gallery | DePaul 91, Stanford 71 | Postgame Notes CHICAGO - Led by Keisha Hampton's 27 points a...
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Stymie said:
Shooting nearly 30 times SHOULD result in at least 10 points (a double).
I’m unimpressed.
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Was this the only game you saw her play? Anyone who is not impressed with Morrow is not being fair. Are you impressed with Caitlin Clark? She sometimes takes as many shots as Morrow took just to score 20 plus points. I think one thing that frustrated Morrow is that she is not used to her shot getting blocked as much as it was last night and the lackluster play of her teammates.
 
Husky fanatic said:
Did not represent the BE well. Another embarrassment was the first game. How many teams can win while shooting 20% from the field? I guess it was the team with 20 plus offensive rebounds. Hard to watch
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Per Pat Summitt - often misquoted - offense wins fans, defense wins games and rebounding wins championships.

And no, I don't mean it literally, just to reflect on how much good rebounding, and especially on the offensive end, can mean.

As far as the first game, I found it entertaining. Incarnate Word was a dreadful team during the season, under .500, that caught fire in their conference tourney. Gritty and fun to watch, but still not really good basketball. Howard had some really nice plays mixed in to what it seems you get when you are playing a bad team without anything to lose. Howard is good for their level of ball, the MEAC is a long, long way from the Power 5 / Big East and even the A10.

As to DePaul - who would have thought we wouldn't watch the whole game? Epic beatdown. Someone asked about DePaul's style, I can't say that was their style when he started in the '80's - but it has been for as long as we have seen them play, close on 25 years now.
 
I watched the first half. It was over by then. Dayton was hot, DePaul’s shots were not falling and they didn't match up very well.
 
donalddoowop said:
Was this the only game you saw her play? Anyone who is not impressed with Morrow is not being fair. Are you impressed with Caitlin Clark? She sometimes takes as many shots as Morrow took just to score 20 plus points. I think one thing that frustrated Morrow is that she is not used to her shot getting blocked as much as it was last night and the lackluster play of her teammates.
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Morrow shot 52% on the season. Against UConn over two games she was 20 of 39. In DePaul's late-season win at Creighton she was 16 of 26.

This board is never lacking for folks who draw grand conclusions from a sample size of one. Her 36% clip against Dayton was a season (career) low for her.
 
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