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FriarJ said:
ok boss, we are on completely different thought train here; I'm referring to how long it will be before UConn has it's hockey team ready to play with the best teams in Hockey East.
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I wouldn't consider PC one of the "best teams" in HE... Decent team this year but last time you got out of quarters was what, decade+ ago? If UConn names Berard head coach he will have UConn there faster than you think.
 
FriarJ said:
This used to be a board that I enjoyed coming to, now it's just filled with a bunch of petty jealousies and insecurity, not much different than the Friar board over the years in regard to UConn. It's too bad really.

On another note; I think it will probably be 5-8 years before you are playing hockey in the upper tier of Hockey East with PC, BC, BU, UNH, Lowell...
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How long did it take Quinnipiac to become #1 in the land?
 
UConn's big problem is that New England no longer plays top level hockey. Not sure why. For a while there in the 1980s, Conn. was producing NHL pros.
 
huskymedic said:
I wouldn't consider PC one of the "best teams" in HE... Decent team this year but last time you got out of quarters was what, decade+ ago? If UConn names Berard head coach he will have UConn there faster than you think.
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That's where you would be wrong, they have been in the final 4 of HE 2 years in a row and if they had beaten Lowell in their final regular season game they would have won the HE regular season crown. Thy are definitely back in the upper echelon of HE.

When do you think UConn will be playing for the regular season crown in their last game?
 
Quinnipiac is using Canadian players with questionable academics, look for st Mary's type sanctions.

New England doesn't play top level hockey? Bc, bu, UMass Lowell and PC(Tom leahman) would differ.
 
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seanmc94 said:
Quinnipiac is using Canadian players with questionable academics, look for st Mary's type sanctions.

New England doesn't play top level hockey? Bc, bu, UMass Lowell and PC(Tom leahman) would differ.
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Sean, I think he was referring to the HS level is not what it once was.
 
FriarJ said:
That's where you would be wrong, they have been in the final 4 of HE 2 years in a row and if they had beaten Lowell in their final regular season game they would have won the HE regular season crown. Thy are definitely back in the upper echelon of HE.

When do you think UConn will be playing for the regular season crown in their last game?
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My bad... 2011-2012 and 2012-2013. Prior to that was 2001.
 
seanmc94 said:
Quinnipiac is using Canadian players with questionable academics, look for st Mary's .
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25% of PC's roster is Canadian? All teams use Canadian kids. You just can't admit Quinnipiac has done a good job building a strong program.
 
huskymedic said:
CT still produces NHL players... http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/state-totals/active-nhl-players-career-stats.html
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Yes, I was talking in relative terms--going back to the Leetch, Janney etc. years.

Of those players listed in the link, only four are from Conn. and in the NHL. Bonino, Pacioretty, Atkinson or Quick. The rest are either retired from the NHL (Hainsey), in the minors or else like Wilson and Shattenkirk, born in Greenwich, but left young and played in Winnipeg or New Jersey.

That's still good, not the heyday though. The High School scene that Leetch played in, for instance, is totally different now.
 
FriarJ said:
Sean, I think he was referring to the HS level is not what it once was.
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Yes, I was. Prep and HS. I watched Bishop Hendricken play Notre Dame WH. It was not a very high level of hockey for the ages of the players. The Buffalo high school scene would run circles around those kids.
 
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huskymedic said:
25% of PC's roster is Canadian? All teams use Canadian kids. You just can't admit Quinnipiac has done a good job building a strong program.
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He never gives anyone credit. He is the definition of a jealous hater. I'm not even a Quinnipiac program--but they are #1 in the country!!!!
 
huskymedic said:
25% of PC's roster is Canadian? All teams use Canadian kids. You just can't admit Quinnipiac has done a good job building a strong program.
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Quinnipiac has done a fine job; IMHO they are treading in some grey areas. Time will tell.
 
upstater said:
Yes, I was talking in relative terms--going back to the Leetch, Janney etc. years.

Of those players listed in the link, only four are from Conn. and in the NHL. Bonino, Pacioretty, Atkinson or Quick. The rest are either retired from the NHL (Hainsey), in the minors or else like Wilson and Shattenkirk, born in Greenwich, but left young and played in Winnipeg or New Jersey.

That's still good, not the heyday though. The High School scene that Leetch played in, for instance, is totally different now.
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Fair Point. I just grabbed a quick link. Not a huge NHL fan - but Hainsey is still active?

The preps (and catholic private schools) are impacting CT HS hockey by dilution.
 
Wait, wait, wait, wait, waaaaaaaaait a second. Let's back her up a bit.


seanmc94 said:
PC hoops was run into the ground by keno Davis
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OK, right here.

Stop.

OK, so let me get this straight: Keno Davis ran Friar bball to the ground?

So you guys were good before he came along?

Shit, you coulda fooled me. Unless a coach moves on because he's picked up by a better program, coaches don't usually leave out of the blue- unless they're fired.

So, who was the coach prior to Keno Davis? Oh, yeah, Tim Welsh. What job did he leave Providence to take, again? OMG, wait, what? He got fired? Why did such a successful coach get canned? Don't really good teams keep really good coaches if they are not poached?

In ten years, Tim Welsh only went to two NCAA tournaments and didn't win any NCAA tournament games at Providence you say? And only ONE BET win? Oh, so like, he wasn't any good either? So really it wasn't Keno Davis, it was that Providence sucked before him and sucks since him?

Yep, that's more like it. Providence just sucks and pretty much, save Rick Pitino's three years and one lucky tourney with Austin Croshere, always has.
 
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I think I found some providence tournament highlights

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seanmc94 said:
Matt,

What you know about PC hoops could fit on the head of a pin.
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Why don't you educate him (and the rest of us) by pointing out where he was wrong in his assessment of the Welsh/Keno years.
 
seanmc94 said:
Matt,

What you know about PC hoops could fit on the head of a pin.
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What the entire country knows about PC hoops could fit on the head of an even smaller pin. People outside some Big East schools probably don't even know PC means anything other than personal computer. You're irrelevant.

You're one of those schools that when a fan of, say, Kansas, tries to name the sixteen schools that made up the Big East until 2012, and only gets twelve right, they go online to find the other four. They go online to find that, despite no one ever remembering them playing a meaningful game in the past twenty-odd years, Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and St. John's are, in fact, Big East schools.
 
Husky said:
Does footage of Providence in the NCAA tournament even exist? Pretty sure camera technology doesn't date back that far
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Pitino's ego is bigger than all time and space :)

Of course there's footage!

(I had to search under Pitino and it came right up)

 
huskymedic said:
Fair Point. I just grabbed a quick link. Not a huge NHL fan - but Hainsey is still active?

The preps (and catholic private schools) are impacting CT HS hockey by dilution.
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Just jumping in on this conversation. The thing that is impacting CT HS hockey is the triple A programs that are taking all the top level talent. Back in my day which was the mid-late 80's, high school hockey was producing some good talent. As more and more rinks were built in the 90's such as Cromwell, Newington, Simsbury etc.... It gave birth to the aaa hockey programs that ended up taking all the top HS prospects that are looking to go D1. Today, if you play HS hockey you won't even get a "sniff" from a D1 school. On my HS team, we put 4 kids in D1 programs, one teammate ended up being the Captain of the West Point Hockey team, I ended up at Uconn. Those jumps just don't happen very often any more. You either play triple A or you do a PG year at a prep school. A coach that is in my current program is also a Ref in CT who regularly works CT HS hockey games. He was telling me the talent is just terrible now.
 
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My soph year at hendricken(ri) we had 3 future NHL players and didnt ri the state title bc mount had Garth Snow in net and 2 other kids that were AAs in college. Prep schools scatter the talent now.
 
Doggie Style said:
Just jumping in on this conversation. The thing that is impacting CT HS hockey is the triple A programs that are taking all the top level talent. Back in my day which was the mid-late 80's, high school hockey was producing some good talent. As more and more rinks were built in the 90's such as Cromwell, Newington, Simsbury etc.... It gave birth to the aaa hockey programs that ended up taking all the top HS prospects that are looking to go D1. Today, if you play HS hockey you won't even get a "sniff" from a D1 school. On my HS team, we put 4 kids in D1 programs, one teammate ended up being the Captain of the West Point Hockey team, I ended up at Uconn. Those jumps just don't happen very often any more. You either play triple A or you do a PG year at a prep school. A coach that is in my current program is also a Ref in CT who regularly works CT HS hockey games. He was telling me the talent is just terrible now.
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This would explain it.
 
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