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Chief00 said:
I apologize for not providing context to posters who perhaps have never been involved in men's sports. Let me surmise, based on a few responses, there are some in this BY audience.

In men's sports there is a code called "our turf" or "our house" - you may beat a team on their turf or house but you don't rub it in by excessive celebration after the game or bragging before the game.

Coach Calhoun understood this code and KO does too. Our ticket to a P5 conference is football and the men's code applies. No disrespect to women's basketball or coed whatever scrimmages that make the season for many here.

There are no coed scrimmages for football that I am aware of - the not on our turf code applies - you don't saturate the newspapers and billboards with paid bragging ads - when you ride into town. That turns off the P5 powers.

Put another way - would you like if a team did that to UConn and would you be more inclined to extend an invite to your conference?

SH has done many things to alienate the people we need to cultivate - and this is right up there.
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No. The ad and billboards were not disrespectful and frankly, it seems like you're reaching now. SH knows one of the many things we need to do to appeal a P5 is be able to draw fans to our games, home and away. This was mentioned last week and it seemed to me UConn wanted to ensure a full house in Dallas while B12 could be watching. It was a good plan and it worked, except for the actual game And, personally I wouldn't care if SMU did the same up here. I don't find it disrespectful. It's not hard to figure out why we did it and the SMU players, coaches, etc know UConn is seeking a P5 invite.
 
We get it. Phil Austin let you fly on the team plane and Herbst doesn't. We're sorry.
 
Stairmaster said:
We get it. Phil Austin let you fly on the team plane and Herbst doesn't. We're sorry.
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LOL - my transportation is just fine. I actually managed customers relationships throughout Texas and OK 15 years ago for a company I worked for, including customers in Austin and Norman.

The idea that someone from the Northeast would do that and think it would somehow produce positive results (I.e - get us into a P5) is laughable.
 
Chief00 said:
LOL - my transportation is just fine. I actually managed customers relationships throughout Texas and OK 15 years ago for a company I worked for, including customers in Austin and Norman.

The idea that someone from the Northeast would do that and think it would somehow produce positive results (I.e - get us into a P5) is laughable.
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I'm betting Susan Herbst is smarter than you are.
 
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Yes, she has a great track record pissing people off and having lesser schools climb over us into the P5. LOL that actually is her brand. How is that working?

Keep betting on her throwing bad money after good.

My customers included 4 Big 12 schools. Her job is bigger than mine was but it wasn't the low level gig you describe - I need to be intentionally vague but I know these people she obviously doesn't understand their mindset if she felt a guest insulting a host will get you an invited to their big party.

KO did the right thing. He is from Dallas and intuitively understands how this would go over - not well. And he understands the sports creed - you just don't do that.
 
Chief00 said:
I apologize for not providing context to posters who perhaps have never been involved in men's sports. Let me surmise, based on a few responses, there are some in this BY audience.

In men's sports there is a code called "our turf" or "our house" - you may beat a team on their turf or house but you don't rub it in by excessive celebration after the game or bragging before the game.

Coach Calhoun understood this code and KO does too. Our ticket to a P5 conference is football and the men's code applies. No disrespect to women's basketball or coed whatever scrimmages that make the season for many here.

There are no coed scrimmages for football that I am aware of - the not on our turf code applies - you don't saturate the newspapers and billboards with paid bragging ads - when you ride into town. That turns off the P5 powers.

Put another way - would you like if a team did that to UConn and would you be more inclined to extend an invite to your conference?

SH has done many things to alienate the people we need to cultivate - and this is right up there.
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How did this alienate SMU who has no shot at getting into a P5? This was all directed at Texas to remind them we bring much to the table. You are reaching here. I love KO and did not read any of his comments but he should not be worrying about any of this. He has plenty on his plate.
 
Bobby Fischer was smart.

So is Stephen Hawking.

But an eccentric chess master nor a theoretical physicist may be the best choice for a guiding hand as a program is competing in the arena of CR.

What is needed is a dollop of real world smarts...not necessarily just the book smarts of academia. And Herbst may very well have those kind of smarts from climbing through the bureaucratic battles of her profession. But situational awareness, I think, trumps book smarts when it comes to CR.
 
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HuskyBandDad said:
How did this alienate SMU who has no shot at getting into a P5? This was all directed at Texas to remind them we bring much to the table. You are reaching here. I love KO and did not read any of his comments but he should not be worrying about any of this. He has plenty on his plate.
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They don't respect this type of behavior - the thought is she will be doing this marvelous branding thing to their school next.
 
KO needs to focus on coaching his team. Let Susan do what Susan needs to do. Chief00 - you couldn't be more wrong about disrespect. What Cincinnati does is disrespect to the whole AAC, puts the Big 10 under pressure in case they aren't chosen and looks bad. One UCONN ad in Texas and the campaign in New York was long overdue.
 
Susan doing what Susan needs to do - is so far underperforming.

While liked or respected at her school she is tone deaf to external events such as CR or the State's budget crisis.
I know this will upset some here and I don't have a pony in the race but when the state has a 1 billion dollar deficit looming next fiscal year - how do you give out 4.5% annual raises as far as the eye can see to non professor staff? True the Trustees approved it - what are they thinking too?

Seems like she is one of those leaders who surrounds herself with yes people. That works great in a vacuum but looks very strange to the outside World (except some clueless posters on the BY)
 
Fishy said:
Hmm...

She's president of a university and you "managed customer relations" in Oklahoma before accepting an unpaid position as a kook on the Internet.

Scales are tipping against you here, grandpa. We're gonna need to see more.
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Classic! Me and wife both rotfloao!
 
Fishy said:
Hmm...

She's president of a university and you "managed customer relations" in Oklahoma before accepting an unpaid position as a kook on the Internet.

Scales are tipping against you here, grandpa. We're gonna need to see more.
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Fishy, I always look forward to your comments. You are a funny guy! I am definitely stealing the line about "accepting an unpaid position as a kook on the Internet." Brilliant.
 
Chief my man you are crazy. Your negative vibes never end. Such bad karma and please go away or go back Oklahoma.
 
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Well, I stayed at a Holiday Inn in Oklahoma once and as an expert I must agree with Chief(nothing)00;)
 
Chief00 said:
I apologize for not providing context to posters who perhaps have never been involved in men's sports. Let me surmise, based on a few responses, there are some in this BY audience.

In men's sports there is a code called "our turf" or "our house" - you may beat a team on their turf or house but you don't rub it in by excessive celebration after the game or bragging before the game.

Coach Calhoun understood this code and KO does too. Our ticket to a P5 conference is football and the men's code applies. No disrespect to women's basketball or coed whatever scrimmages that make the season for many here.

There are no coed scrimmages for football that I am aware of - the not on our turf code applies - you don't saturate the newspapers and billboards with paid bragging ads - when you ride into town. That turns off the P5 powers.

Put another way - would you like if a team did that to UConn and would you be more inclined to extend an invite to your conference?

SH has done many things to alienate the people we need to cultivate - and this is right up there.
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Interesting take, TCU has been putting out ads for years that have been well received.

This one in the LA times

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This one in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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and one in Omaha (with reddit response, could only post 2 pics)

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2r8jie/tcu_thanks_peach_bowl_full_page_ad_in_atlanta/


If only Chief had warned TCU administration not to be so crass as to break the turf code perhaps TCU would have been invited to a P5
 
hiphopfroggy said:
If only Chief had warned TCU administration not to be so crass as to break the turf code perhaps TCU would have been invited to a P5
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Chief may want to have a talk with Sparty as well.

Michigan State took out the back page ad spot in the Dallas Morning News’ championship edition. The Spartans are offering a “Texas-Size Thank You” to the people of Dallas for their hospitality during their Cotton Bowl stay. It’s an oddly-timed move, to say the least. It also might contain a spelling/grammar error, considering “Texas-sized” is the correct term.
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Dallas Morning News, January, 2015.
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Chief00 said:
Yes, she has a great track record pissing people off and having lesser schools climb over us into the P5. LOL that actually is her brand. How is that working?

Keep betting on her throwing bad money after good.

My customers included 4 Big 12 schools. Her job is bigger than mine was but it wasn't the low level gig you describe - I need to be intentionally vague but I know these people she obviously doesn't understand their mindset if she felt a guest insulting a host will get you an invited to their big party.

KO did the right thing. He is from Dallas and intuitively understands how this would go over - not well. And he understands the sports creed - you just don't do that.
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And how is the XII reacting to U Cincinnati's Ono's grovelling?
 
hiphopfroggy said:
Interesting take, TCU has been putting out ads for years that have been well received.

This one in the LA times

BCS-LAthanksFINAL.jpg



This one in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution

B6WrOHYIQAE-582.jpg



and one in Omaha (with reddit response, could only post 2 pics)

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/2r8jie/tcu_thanks_peach_bowl_full_page_ad_in_atlanta/


If only Chief had warned TCU administration not to be so crass as to break the turf code perhaps TCU would have been invited to a P5
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TCU's ads are also thank you cards- not bragging about a Yankee school. It's amazing how you are unable to differentiate.
 
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Chief00 said:
Are you serious? This was a thank you note to the Texas Cotton Bowl. Our ad was simply bragging about a Yankee school.
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I thought about that point. Then I thought, "which one is more of a waste of money?".

What value was there in spending money after a rather spectacular victory (42-41 over Baylor). Was that "rubbing it in" just a little?
 
Chief00 said:
Are you serious? This was a thank you note to the Texas Cotton Bowl. Our ad was simply bragging about a Yankee school.
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So now it comes out. "Yankee" school. How dare those Yankees proclaim to win at sports.

The reality of the ad is this: to many ignorant idiots across Texas think UConn is a useless "Yankee School", and they needed some education on that fact. Sadly, Ollie and his boys didn't do much to make the point. By the way, I like Texas, and I'm from Kansas...Big XII country, and yes they are pretty ignorant of UConn too, if less so. It's far past time for UConn to take action to dispel those false perceptions.
 
Chief00 said:
TCU's ads are also thank you cards- not bragging about a Yankee school. It's amazing how you are unable to differentiate.
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@Chief00 I think I have FINALLY figured out your angle. You are one of those "bring back the old Big East days" guys. Guess what..those days are OVER and gone forever! Time to either move forward or close up shop...and by closing up shop that means relegating your precious basketball program to the old ECAC/Yankee Conference days. I have yet to see you post something here backing ANYTHING UConn athletics does to improve their position in the college athletic world. Instead all we get is the BS you put up about Herbst. Do us all a favor and stay on the hoops board...or are they tired of your BS there too?
 
FDNY99 said:
@Chief00 I think I have FINALLY figured out your angle. You are one of those "bring back the old Big East days" guys. Guess what..those days are OVER and gone forever! Time to either move forward or close up shop...and by closing up shop that means relegating your precious basketball program to the old ECAC/Yankee Conference days. I have yet to see you post something here backing ANYTHING UConn athletics does to improve their position in the college athletic world. Instead all we get is the BS you put up about Herbst. Do us all a favor and stay on the hoops board...or are they tired of your BS there too?
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Uh, I think that he should share the love, you know spend time on each of the boards. Perhaps start by spending a month or so in Off Topic Archive and work his way up to Tech questions.
 
FDNY99 said:
@Chief00 I think I have FINALLY figured out your angle. You are one of those "bring back the old Big East days" guys. Guess what..those days are OVER and gone forever! Time to either move forward or close up shop...and by closing up shop that means relegating your precious basketball program to the old ECAC/Yankee Conference days. I have yet to see you post something here backing ANYTHING UConn athletics does to improve their position in the college athletic world. Instead all we get is the BS you put up about Herbst. Do us all a favor and stay on the hoops board...or are they tired of your BS there too?
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I think he's just a bozo.
 
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