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CV announces he will return for senior season

shizzle787 said:
Don't know. Didn't check them. He didn't make as big an impact this year as last. Scoring 15 pts and game vs. 10 doesn't matter if you score most of them in garbage as opposed to late situations.
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And now looking at the stats he was better his sophomore year statistically in the majority of areas including turnovers, points, ft%.
 
navery12 said:
So just to get this straight, you haven't looked at any stats but Vital was worse this year? Got it
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Vital was better this season, just look at the teams record :)
 
shizzle787 said:
And now looking at the stats he was better his sophomore year statistically in the majority of areas including turnovers, points, ft%.
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Junior year fg% was better 45.3% vs 38.3%, 3 pt % was better 40.9% vs 31.8%, ft% was similar (81.3% vs 84.6%), rebounds were higher in fewer minutes, assists were up, assist:turnover ratio went above 1.0 from below 1.0. The gain in shooting percentage alone is a substantial benefit to the team.
 
pj said:
Junior year fg% was better 45.3% vs 38.3%, 3 pt % was better 40.9% vs 31.8%, ft% was similar (81.3% vs 84.6%), rebounds were higher in fewer minutes, assists were up, assist:turnover ratio went above 1.0 from below 1.0. The gain in shooting percentage alone is a substantial benefit to the team.
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And the marginal descrease in points was with a lower USG%. Undoubtedly better season
 
pj said:
Junior year fg% was better 45.3% vs 38.3%, 3 pt % was better 40.9% vs 31.8%, ft% was similar (81.3% vs 84.6%), rebounds were higher in fewer minutes, assists were up, assist:turnover ratio went above 1.0 from below 1.0. The gain in shooting percentage alone is a substantial benefit to the team.
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True, but he didn't take nearly as many shots. So hence my point, he would disappear in games. If he was as involved in the game as much this year as last he would have scored 18-19 points/game.
 
shizzle787 said:
True, but he didn't take nearly as many shots. So hence my point, he would disappear in games. If he was as involved in the game as much this year as last he would have scored 18-19 points/game.
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He took 1.3 fewer shots per game and scored 0.7 fewer points per game. Since the team as a whole averaged 1.24 points per shot, letting his teammates shoot the other 1.3 shots gained 1.6 points for the team, for a net gain of 1.6-0.7 = 0.9 points per game for the team.

There's no reason to think Christian playing like sophomore Christian would have helped the team. Stats suggest otherwise.
 
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shizzle787 said:
100% Agree. Vital is a good player and a great leader for the team but this is a pretty narcissistic move: if he were a borderline draft pick it would be one thing, but he was worse this year than his sophomore year.
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In today's environment, where everyone touts everything online, I'd actually argue this particular statement was the opposite of typical social media narcissism.
  • He mentions the fact that his perceptive has been altered in the past year; the unspoken piece is a big part of that is due to the new staff. That's genuine humility right there.
  • He mentions graduating and doing senior night in honor of his mom. I'd imagine he's not lying.
  • He posts a pic of him graduating high school with his family looking pretty damn happy. Could have posted a yelling, jersey popping, I-am-the-man edit He didn't. I thought that was a great shot.
The only potentially narcissistic delusion in there was the 5th championship thing. And I love him for that one.
 
intlzncster said:
In today's environment, where everyone touts everything online, I'd actually argue this particular statement was the opposite of typical social media narcissism.
  • He mentions the fact that his perceptive has been altered in the past year; the unspoken part is a big part of that is due to the new staff. That's genuine humility.
  • He mentions graduating and doing senior night in honor of his mom. I'd imagine he's not lying there.
  • He posts a pic of him graduating high school with his family looking pretty damn happy. Could have posted a yelling, jersey popping, I-am-the-man edit He didn't. I thought that was a great shot.
The only possible narcissistic delusion there was the 5th championship thing. And I love him for that one.
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reality
 
pj said:
He took 1.3 fewer shots per game and scored 0.7 fewer points per game. Since the team as a whole averaged 1.24 points per shot, letting his teammates shoot the other 1.3 shots gained 1.6 points for the team, for a net gain of 1.6-0.7 = 0.9 points per game for the team.

There's no reason to think Christian playing like sophomore Christian would have helped the team. Stats suggest otherwise.
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Even going with the old eye test, he didn't huck it up nearly as much. Still a bit of a chucker this year, but Hurley reigned him in. I'm hoping for more next year.
 
navery12 said:
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Bouknight dunking on Cue the Music's twitter feed. Athletic and smooth. Also a picture on Gaffney's twitter feed of him jumping and his head is about rim height, pretty cool. If you click on Bouknight's picture in this tweet it will put you there.
 
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shizzle787 said:
100% Agree. Vital is a good player and a great leader for the team but this is a pretty narcissistic move: if he were a borderline draft pick it would be one thing, but he was worse this year than his sophomore year.
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Huh? He was a lot better player this year especially with his decision making and it shows in his shooting percentage. He did turn it over a little too much but if he works on his handle that will improve greatly. He had a pretty bad sophomore year but he did have to play point some which is not his forte.
 
DonaldDraper said:
I don’t want to hijack an otherwise positive thread, So I’ll leave it at this - who is the last player to announce their return for a senior season in a non coaching change scenario that had no chance whatsoever to sniff a draft board?

Heaping praise on this sends a signal that every above average player should view their college careers as a single season contracts and teams should be lucky that players stay from year to year. I’m not a hater on here by a mile, but this really rubs me the wrong way.
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You were saying?
 
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RipCity said:
This is about as dumb as saying JA Happ was better than Jacob Degrom last year because he had more wins.
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I’m not comparing him to other players but if I did I’m sure there is a big list of guys who score and rebound for losing teams.
 
shizzle787 said:
100% Agree. Vital is a good player and a great leader for the team but this is a pretty narcissistic move: if he were a borderline draft pick it would be one thing, but he was worse this year than his sophomore year.
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Here’s what you don’t understand, basically, because you’re little stupid and a lot out of touch.

Vital didn’t post that message for you or anyone else here. He doesn’t care about you or really even know that you exist.

He’s posting it for his friends. These kids diary their lives on Instagram.

The fact that some old creepers are following them and parsing what they’re saying is really more of a you problem.
 
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