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Cupcake Update (Whaddyaknow!)

tzznandrew said:
Too early to declare they aren't going to the NCAAs.
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When was the last time a power conference team (who didn't win their conference tourney) start 4-5 and make the tournament? I bet it was a long time ago.
 
DaveHuskiesFan said:
Note Dame started 4-5 last year and made the tournament. One of their 4 wins was against a D2 team, so call it 3-5.

That didn’t take long
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Rarity, and laziness on my part for looking it up. Either way, it's rare.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Just a hilarious response after being immediately proven wrong. "Well, I'm sure it's rare."
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Considering that was the essence of the original statement, that was the point.
 
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Hans Sprungfeld said:
You probably meant to write "for not looking it up," but either way, I salute you for not responding that 8½ months is a long time.
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I'll give you that.
 
huskiesNhoos said:
I wish I could find the post from someone saying it was in our best interest in the PK to lose to bama so we'd get UNC...that ones aging well
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Asked and answered

Huskyforlife said:
North Carolina falls to a respectable 21st, with obviously the upside to climb back up in the rankings. Iowa State is at 42, and if we beat them after beating bama, will probably struggle to be quad 1 in a loaded B12. We need to beat Alabama now.

At least if we lose tonight, our opponent would actually be better for our SOS.
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AIC
Bridgeport
Stony Brook
Vermont
Maui (Wichita St, MSU, UK)
New Hampshire
UMBC
Farleigh Dickinson
Coppin St
Harvard

2010-11 you must have been bitching about this early OOC schedule for sure if you are this years.

How did that work out? Just play the schedule and get better as the season moves along. If you’re good enough good things will happen!
 
shizzle787 said:
When was the last time a power conference team (who didn't win their conference tourney) start 4-5 and make the tournament? I bet it was a long time ago.
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UNC started 5-4 and made the Championship game last year, Michigan started 7-7 and made the tournament last year. Teams start slow and make the tournament all the time.
 
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The first five were easy, cupcakes whatever you want to call them that’s what they are. There will always be these type of teams on the schedule every year. The teams that followed, on paper, were and may very well be very good teams. Teams tend to get better as the season evolves barring injuries. Let’s wait until the season is over until you evaluate these teams. UConn has beaten all teams they have faced. That’s all that counts.
 
Great

I have always argued that SOS was all about who played the strongest cupcakes. That's how certained coaches mastered the "RPI"

They may have tweaked it, but the same principles apply (this thread being a case in point)
 
shizzle787 said:
Stop trying to justify our lame OOC schedule. We've played two good teams so far.
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Right now the teams with the most P6 plus Gonzaga/Memphis/SDSU/Houston in the top 12 are (I chose top ten non-UConn teams but Ark and Bama are tied and likely to move into the top ten this week):

Alabama: 6
Creighton: 6
Kansas: 6
UConn: 5 including Oregon
UVA: 5 including FSU
Purdue: 5 including FSU
Zona: 4
Baylor: 4
IU: 4
Arkansas: 4 including UL
Texas: 4 including Stanford
Houston: 3 including Oregon

Creighton, Kansas and Bama are the only ones with more games against P6 plus.

More in depth for the top 11 AP (Non-UConn):

Houston: Tournament: None. Challenge: None. Other: Oregon, Alabama, UVA.

Texas: Tournament: None. Challenge: Creighton. Other: Gonzaga, Illinois, Stanford.

UVA: Tournament: Baylor, Illinois. Challenge: Michigan. Other: FSU, Houston.

Zona: Tournament: SDSU, Creighton. Challenge: None. Other: IU, Tennessee.

Purdue: Tournament: WVU, Gonzaga, Duke. Challenge: FSU. Other: Marquette.

Baylor: Tournament: UVA, UCLA. Challenge: Marquette. Other: Gonzaga.

Creighton: Tournament: TTU, ARK, Zona. Challenge: Texas. Other: Nebraska, ASU.

Kansas: Tournament: NCState, Wisconsin, Tennessee. Challenge: SHU, Other: Duke, IU.

IU: Tournament: None. Challenge: UNC. Other: Xavier, Zona, KU.

Alabama: Tournament: MSU, UConn, UNC. Challenge: None. Other: Memphis, Gonzaga, Houston.

Arkansas: Tournament: UL, Creighton, SDSU. Challenge: None. Other: OU.

UConn: Tournament: Oregon, Alabama, ISU. Challenge: OSU. Other: Florida.

Now this is all subject to change, obviously. Heck, Oregon could get healthy and surge. UL could make an improbable ACCT run, etc. UNC could continue their slide.



ClifSpliffy said:
this still gives me pause.
of course, i've seen almost zero commentary on it here so far.

the 'second half' thing.
1st half o - ranked 9th.
2nd half o - ranked 57th.

1st half d - ranked 13th
2nd half d- ranked 43rd.

does it mean something material? idk.
this is an interesting site. all this gambling stuff brought cray-cray amounts of data to the puzzle. meh. im still an eye test sort of observer.
Connecticut Huskies
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It's probably meaningless at this point. The first eight of the games were double digits at halftime. Only Alabama was close.
 
navery12 said:
Asked and answered
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That’s not what I said. Read better.

Edit: Actually I’ll help you, “We need to beat Alabama now.”

It’s also so early to be victory lapping that take, it’s laughable on your part. Do better.
 
mauconnfan said:
2010-11 you must have been bitching about this early OOC schedule for sure if you are this years.

How did that work out? Just play the schedule and get better as the season moves along. If you’re good enough good things will happen!
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We also hosted Tennessee in January that year, which was awesome. Kemba hit a buzzer beater (at the half)

Would love to see January OOC games mixed in again.
 
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Tyler2Rings said:
We also hosted Tennessee in January that year, which was awesome. Kemba hit a buzzer beater (at the half)

Would love to see January OOC games mixed in again.
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We played Texas on the road that year too.
 
Huskyforlife said:
That’s not what I said. Read better.

Edit: Actually I’ll help you, “We need to beat Alabama now.”

It’s also so early to be victory lapping that take, it’s laughable on your part. Do better.
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Where is UNC?
 
HeGotGame said:


Where is UNC?
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Did you know Iowa State is still 40th at Kenpom? Take a wild guess if North Carolina is over/under 40? Y’all really shouldn’t victory lap this take until Iowa State actually surpasses them in the metrics, but go off.
 
How is Houston number 1 is my main question, there strength of schedule has been awful and they haven't blown out everyone like we have. I am just saying based on pure numbers I am surprised they are ahead of us
 
Huskyforlife said:
Did you know Iowa State is still 40th at Kenpom? Take a wild guess if North Carolina is over/under 40? Y’all really shouldn’t victory lap this take until Iowa State actually surpasses them in the metrics, but go off.
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Iowa State is 25 on Bart Torvik for this season, UNC is 54. And it's besides the point anyway because the reason you're getting attacked is your clownshow freak out about the Iowa State game not being a good win for us
 
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mauconnfan said:
AIC
Bridgeport
Stony Brook
Vermont
Maui (Wichita St, MSU, UK)
New Hampshire
UMBC
Farleigh Dickinson
Coppin St
Harvard

2010-11 you must have been bitching about this early OOC schedule for sure if you are this years.

How did that work out? Just play the schedule and get better as the season moves along. If you’re good enough good things will happen!
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He was 4 years old in 2010, give him a break.
 
navery12 said:
Iowa State is 25 on Bart Torvik for this season, UNC is 54. And it's besides the point anyway because the reason you're getting attacked is your clownshow freak out about the Iowa State game not being a good win for us
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The post you responded to said there was someone who posted we should lose on purpose to face UNC, which I clearly never said. All I wagered is that UNC will be more valuable by years end, which can still very well be true.

The clown show is misrepresenting an argument I made 2 weeks ago, with an opinion that could’ve changed considering the added context around UNC.
 
PNolanFan said:
How is Houston number 1 is my main question, there strength of schedule has been awful and they haven't blown out everyone like we have. I am just saying based on pure numbers I am surprised they are ahead of us
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last three full seasons hoosy has 9 tourney wins, elite 8, final 4, sweet sixteen.

sometimes, i wear a bowtie, and always, always, always, wear a breast white pocket handkerchief, tho folded with a flat top, and not a flourish.
u listening auggie doggy? a flourish can make u look like liberace, or the count of montecrisco. don't look like the count of montecrisco.
this guy also made micky d's commercials. i like him, except for that cranky role he had in the beagle movie. my k professor was similarily a putz, until i called him out, in private. after that, we got along fine as pie.
contracts perfessors are all blowhards. that's all they got cuz u can teach that stuff to grammar school kids in an afternoon. u know, offer, acceptance, consideration, and context.
 
Huskyforlife said:
The post you responded to said there was someone who posted we should lose on purpose to face UNC, which I clearly never said. All I wagered is that UNC will be more valuable by years end, which can still very well be true.

The clown show is misrepresenting an argument I made 2 weeks ago, with an opinion that could’ve changed considering the added context around UNC.
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Fair enough, I'll give you the chance to change your stance then. Still agree with your opinion attacking Benedict and Hurley about our clown schedule that's going to knock us down a seed-line because we played Iowa State instead of UNC in the 3rd game of our MTE?
 
navery12 said:
Fair enough, I'll give you the chance to change your stance then. Still agree with your opinion attacking Benedict and Hurley about our clown schedule that's going to knock us down a seed-line because we played Iowa State instead of UNC in the 3rd game of our MTE?
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At this point the schedule is looking better than it did to start the year, I’ll give them that. When I made that other post, I doubt anyone thought we might lose a total of 2-3ish games by seasons end. If we’re top 5 all season, I don’t think the schedule will matter for our seeding.
 
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