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Man, you are such a one note fiddle.
Facts are facts! I get y’all know I root for sk however y’all don’t go at othe people that support him and I’m not coming up with stuff out of thin air it’s all true stuff the proof is in the pudding
 
Remember he was with the Steelers for a number of years and learned much from the organization and coaching staff while he was there. He knows how to win.
Nothing against Spanish, as I like what he's doing, but as we say in Pittsburgh, "Tomlin's coaching tree is a telephone pole."
 
ABSOLUTELY NO ATTACK on you personally. :)
I also like DB but please do supply a link showing how he hired RE against his better judgement. Nowhere have I ever read the hire was forced on him. He praised getting Randy back to the max. Then when things were in doubt a few years later gave him just as much praise and support.
The only one I would consider a forced hire is PP and that was on Larry McHugh who had a ton of influence on the board. A tireless life long worker and former high school championship winning coach he had a lot of juice on the board. A personal friend of Paul, he let that get in the way of modern times football. A good man but the game had passed him and Paul and George by....

To my original point please show something showing DB was reluctant to hiring Randy. He was all in on everything I had read and smiling ear to ear as he introduced him at the introduction party. I get AD's are salesmen but most believe in the product they are selling. Inquiring minds want to know.
Why would anyone say that? I believe it to be true that DB was heavily influenced by boosters and former players like Danno. Someone is always going to paint a positive picture and support the hire. RE totally disrespected the guy and called him Dave at the press conference like forgot his name.
 
Facts are facts! I get y’all know I root for sk however y’all don’t go at othe people that support him and I’m not coming up with stuff out of thin air it’s all true stuff the proof is in the pudding
Well, a lot of what you say isn’t really fact, it’s supposition. You imagine Steve would do better if he got more time or played against lesser opponents and you imagine that Tyler would have done poorly against Purdue. That isn’t fact, that’s your imagination.

But here’s the thing, you’ve made your point, such as it is. Now, you are just coming off as whiny and a bad sport. You aren’t really making a case for Steve at all and certainly are not generating goodwill for him.
 
TP is clearly the future, so regardless of what you think of the other two, getting him reps for the future is the best . . . even if one of the other two guys could slightly help the team play better this year.
 
Why would anyone say that? I believe it to be true that DB was heavily influenced by boosters and former players like Danno. Someone is always going to paint a positive picture and support the hire. RE totally disrespected the guy and called him Dave at the press conference like forgot his name.
They did not like each other, I know that for a fact. Benedict would attend practice from time to time, he’s also a former player, and you can’t tell me he didn’t raise an eyebrow when Edsall announced JZ as the #1 QB on the depth chart. It wouldn’t be the first time an FBS football coach and his AD disagreed on how the team was being run.
 
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Only thing I can think of is that Edsall was playing the long game......Besides Edsall never loved playing fast Always wanted to shorten the game for the defense
Nailed it....FWIW, here's my long take... I believe this to be true, for the last 3 HC's in a row. Coaches playing the 5 year plan and control game, more to protect their jobs and make sure nobody underneath them is a threat.

So I'll give credit to Benedict 3 times now for trying to fix what we've all seen with our eyes in his era and since the beginning of the AAC......Pathetic offensive FB.

PP under Warde ( who wouldn't let TJ take control of the offense or allow Moorehead to do his thing in year 1). ......Diaco another guy with a 5 year plan, "the players are fat, exhibition games, clock management/control freak" ( refused to bring in Jerry Kill).....

And Edsall 2.0. Who talked in his 1st presser about opening things up and the 7-7 FB, kids play now. But then it's bigger, faster, stronger, technique, accountabilty ( except from him), blah, blah blah, he can't or won't work with Lashlee, and he's right back grind it out, snails pace FB. That might of worked in the old BE but was never gonna be able to compete in the AAC or vs. teams from this decade who know/are willing to open up an offense. So now RE's out of the way and enter Mazzone.

I don't know who the next coach will be but DB can't hire another one of these defensive minded, control freak relics, who seem to work more at excuses & trying to pro-long their HC'ing careers. Than trying to make it a fun and interesting product for what's left of us fans who are dying to support this thing. So use the portal, cut the corners (Uconn's waived SAT's for 3 years), do it now. They want an incentive contract like RE 2.0, give them 2, wins and bowls games.

Not the biggest Amore fan but I like his pre season take. Because if your not making this fun for the fans and players as an INDY, what are these HC coaches doing this for ? ( a paycheck ?).

" football independence is, almost by definition, a roguish venture. Smash-mouth, three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust football works in the Northeast when there is a well-defined goal like a playoff spot or a bowl invitation. The Huskies need to be anti-establishment and make anyone who stumbles across one of their games on CBS Sports Network stop clicking and say, “Who are these guys?”....So here is my proposition: Be bold. Strike hard. Play with attitude. Play fearless. Play like there is absolutely nothing to lose and every week is a one-game season because that’s exactly what this is about."

 
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They did not like each other, I know that for a fact. Benedict would attend practice from time to time, he’s also a former player, and you can’t tell me he didn’t raise an eyebrow when Edsall announced JZ as the #1 QB on the depth chart. It wouldn’t be the first time an FBS football coach and his AD disagreed on how the team was being run.
That is true, speaks to why Orlovsky called out Benedict on twitter...Edsall seems to have issues with a lot of people..The former dc and oc couldn"t stand him..
 
Well I guess, judging from the way we played yesterday, at least that “bandaid” stopped the bleeding. I hope you’re not saying Benedict was at fault for all this. Benedict never wanted to rehire Edsall in the first place. You don’t have a clue about football, go back to the basketball board. Nice pat on the back you gave Spanos and Mazzone. You should put one of your bandaids on your mouth.
Wait - are you asserting that the AD had no say on who was hired? Interesting. So safe to say the same goes for the hiring of Hurley?

Getting rid of Edsall was the right move that should have been done earlier. Benedict should follow him out the door.
 
Wait - are you asserting that the AD had no say on who was hired? Interesting. So safe to say the same goes for the hiring of Hurley?

Getting rid of Edsall was the right move that should have been done earlier. Benedict should follow him out the door.
You call yourself a supporter??? You can wear my “supporter” on your nose.
 
ABSOLUTELY NO ATTACK on you personally. :)
I also like DB but please do supply a link showing how he hired RE against his better judgement. Nowhere have I ever read the hire was forced on him. He praised getting Randy back to the max. Then when things were in doubt a few years later gave him just as much praise and support.
The only one I would consider a forced hire is PP and that was on Larry McHugh who had a ton of influence on the board. A tireless life long worker and former high school championship winning coach he had a lot of juice on the board. A personal friend of Paul, he let that get in the way of modern times football. A good man but the game had passed him and Paul and George by....

To my original point please show something showing DB was reluctant to hiring Randy. He was all in on everything I had read and smiling ear to ear as he introduced him at the introduction party. I get AD's are salesmen but most believe in the product they are selling. Inquiring minds want to know.
He/she most likely has no proof. It's just one of those things that he/she has convinced themself that it actually happened. It's a symptom of delusional thought.
 
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Wait - are you asserting that the AD had no say on who was hired? Interesting. So safe to say the same goes for the hiring of Hurley?

Getting rid of Edsall was the right move that should have been done earlier. Benedict should follow him out the door.
Maybe he didn’t want to pull a Hathaway. He made the decision but it was heavily influenced and likely financially influenced by big donors. Too bad it didn’t work out.
 
Wait - are you asserting that the AD had no say on who was hired? Interesting. So safe to say the same goes for the hiring of Hurley?

Getting rid of Edsall was the right move that should have been done earlier. Benedict should follow him out the door.
I don't follow as closely as some here, but I thought I remember seeing as part of the Diaco buyout, the donors wanted to be involved in the hiring or selection process for Diaco's successor. If true, it takes the autonomy out of DB's hiring process. I never saw if that was all just hearsay or if someone had linked any proof that was the case.
 
I don't follow as closely as some here, but I thought I remember seeing as part of the Diaco buyout, the donors wanted to be involved in the hiring or selection process for Diaco's successor. If true, it takes the autonomy out of DB's hiring process. I never saw if that was all just hearsay or if someone had linked any proof that was the case.
Bingo!!!!!!
 
Wait - are you asserting that the AD had no say on who was hired? Interesting. So safe to say the same goes for the hiring of Hurley?
Possible consideration: In a financially challenged athletic department, perhaps accessing significant dinero to jettison Wacko Diaco was different than sending Oystahs Ollie on his way at lesser cost.
AD DB may have had far more influence in hiring Dan Hurley vs needing to appease donors to enable ditching Wacko in exchange for re-hiring EXHCRE, e.g., less say on who was hired.
 
TP is clearly the future, so regardless of what you think of the other two, getting him reps for the future is the best . . . even if one of the other two guys could slightly help the team play better this year.
The only question I would ask is that if you have a more than capable QB in SK why would you burn TP’s redshirt in a season that is 0-4?
 
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The only question I would ask is that if you have a more than capable QB in SK why would you burn TP’s redshirt in a season that is 0-4?
Because the program is on life support and you have to play the players now that give you the best chance to win. Because QB is a high turnover position and the quarterbacks you have today probably won't be here for their full eligibility...so why protect their redshirt.
 
Nailed it....FWIW, here's my long take... I believe this to be true, for the last 3 HC's in a row. Coaches playing the 5 year plan and control game, more to protect their jobs and make sure nobody underneath them is a threat.
They are called hacks. Job 1 for the hack is staying employed. A common ploy is to run the most experienced players off while stating you "only want players that want to be here" all the time pleading for patience. We need to hire someone who sees the job as a stepping stone. Someone who will care about wins more than burrowing in.
 
ABSOLUTELY NO ATTACK on you personally. :)
I also like DB but please do supply a link showing how he hired RE against his better judgement. Nowhere have I ever read the hire was forced on him. He praised getting Randy back to the max. Then when things were in doubt a few years later gave him just as much praise and support.
To my original point please show something showing DB was reluctant to hiring Randy. He was all in on everything I had read and smiling ear to ear as he introduced him at the introduction party. I get AD's are salesmen but most believe in the product they are selling. Inquiring minds want to know.
I'm not defending or agreeing with the premise that RE2.0 was forced on AD David Benedict, but I wanted to note that everything you're saying AD David Benedict did is what he would/should do regardless if he wanted the hire or not. Had he not done so, the conspiracy theory crowd would have had a field day.
Keep in mind AD David Benedict gave RE2.0 an extension 1 year before firing him. Why? Because it was the right thing to do for the program in terms of confirming to recruits that our coach was staying. I think it's safe to say that a year ago when he got the extension that AD David Benedict wasn't sure it was working out. But, he smiled, said the right things, and gave RE2.0 an extension.
 
I refuse to believe that left to his own devices Benedict lands on HCRE 2.0. It's so makes so much more sense that those writing checks wanted to go with what they knew after Diaco. Maybe that's why I haven't heard much blame thrown at him for the atrocious hire. The reason for the paucity of links is probably because there is nothing to be gained by throwing checkwriters under the bus.
 
I refuse to believe that left to his own devices Benedict lands on HCRE 2.0. It's so makes so much more sense that those writing checks wanted to go with what they knew after Diaco. Maybe that's why I haven't heard much blame thrown at him for the atrocious hire. The reason for the paucity of links is probably because there is nothing to be gained by throwing checkwriters under the bus.

This, plus a combination of (a) Randy playing for a low salary and (b) Randy saying all the right things about just building a foundation and then moving on. I am sure he thought he could do it. By not embracing transfers as a path to semi-competence he was destined to fail at even his modest goals.
 
I refuse to believe that left to his own devices Benedict lands on HCRE 2.0. It's so makes so much more sense that those writing checks wanted to go with what they knew after Diaco.
True, I was talking to some of the Uconn FB alum, right after RE came back. The way they put it was after Diaco, "they were happy to have a grown-up in charge".
 
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Since taking over the reins from FHCRE, Spanos has performed a miracle transformation. Previously the Huskies were a lethargic group of individuals that seemed to be just going through the motions for 60 minutes. Since the insertion of Tyler P. & other underclassmen at so many positions. we are seeing actual team play & improvement. I'm convinced that victories are forthcoming, maybe as soon as Saturday. The growth of this team is actually giving incentive to watch further. It reminds of the FHCRE1.0 team that ultimately put on a winning streak to end its season. If Spanos can get a win & then string a few more together, it's going to make the next head coach's job much easier. At the very least, Spanos' teaching ability & decision making has greatly improved his job resume!
 
Since taking over the reins from FHCRE, Spanos has performed a miracle transformation. Previously the Huskies were a lethargic group of individuals that seemed to be just going through the motions for 60 minutes. Since the insertion of Tyler P. & other underclassmen at so many positions. we are seeing actual team play & improvement. I'm convinced that victories are forthcoming, maybe as soon as Saturday. The growth of this team is actually giving incentive to watch further. It reminds of the FHCRE1.0 team that ultimately put on a winning streak to end its season. If Spanos can get a win & then string a few more together, it's going to make the next head coach's job much easier. At the very least, Spanos' teaching ability & decision making has greatly improved his job resume!
If Coach Spanos gets some wins, he should get a serious look as permanent head coach for at least another season. Maybe we have the answer right in front of us.
 
If Coach Spanos gets some wins, he should get a serious look as permanent head coach for at least another season. Maybe we have the answer right in front of us.
This will be unpopular with many here, but I agree. If he is winning and making the team better, you have to take him seriously. It goes without saying, he’s doing a great job right now.
 
This, plus a combination of (a) Randy playing for a low salary and (b) Randy saying all the right things about just building a foundation and then moving on. I am sure he thought he could do it. By not embracing transfers as a path to semi-competence he was destined to fail at even his modest goals.
Yeah it's my understanding that we needed to get rid of Diaco, and to do so the buyout had to be paid out ASAP. So DB went to the donor(s) and said look guys what do we need to do to get that done. One of the conditions was essentially hire Randy.

If the choice was Diaco v Randy then DB made the right choice, even if it didn't work out. From his perspective I'm sure he thought it couldn't get worse, Randy had a good eye for talent, runs a clean program, and could get us to build back a foundation. All while doing it on the cheap which allowed us to free up money elsewhere (which I'm sure also helped get us out of the AAC). Randy's experience running the program as an Independent in the past probably also helped make that decision easier.

It didn't work out but it made sense at the time. I don't know if all of this is true but these are things I've been told.
 
Great effort last week. Lets get a W as our next step; either this week or next. Spanos is off to a nice start, but lets face it - we need some Ws to validate a real turn.

About Edsall; Its amazing to hear how execution task master Edsall never looked in the mirror. I contend he has been flawed for sometime about his entire approach when he mistook his rigid methods for creating the 1.0 era success story when in fact it was as much about the Danny O lift as anything else.
 
About Edsall; Its amazing to hear how execution task master Edsall never looked in the mirror. I contend he has been flawed for sometime about his entire approach
You ain't kiddin !!! .......and it ain't just us Husky fans alone in that thought, for years

 
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