Confused On Wilson Recruiting (merged)

[Ozzie Nelson]

unless you are in lock step with all of the "regular" posters, or clear your post with them first. Or expect to be attacked from all sides.......Friendly site.

BTW...you can spot "irregular" posters by the verbs they use...

 

[doggydaddy]

I did coach high school,(boys), but, that still does not explain, why it would take so long to pick from four or five quality programs. And I think all of the evidence has been put out there by the media for the past year. You have your opinion and I have mine.

She hasn't finished all her visits. Why should she decide now?

 

[doggydaddy]

I will hold my comment.

Good. You appear to have your hands full with Eric.

 

[Paul1969]

...unless you have enough self-confidence to not take it personally when others disagree with you.

We all jump on the rude or ignorant ones. Informed disagreements are encouraged, especially if they're respectful.

Well, our current culture calls folks ignorant when they basically don't agree with us. In addition, Rudeness is entirely subjective in most cases. Just because a person is offended by what I say DOES NOT mean I was being rude.

 

[Shenandoah]

There are a few "keyboard commandos" on here, who go way past "respectful disagreement", and jump right into the personal insults. My suggestion is; if you wouldn't say it to someone's face, it doesn't belong on here...

 

[RadyLady]

Regular or irregular, posters are what they are and will post according to their thoughts. Some are very smart about it, and others post knee jerk reactions without really giving it a lot of thought, or really taking a good look at the whole picture.

That said, JRRRJ has it right when he says “..unless you have enough self-confidence to not take it personally when others disagree with you.”


This was a hurdle I had to overcome before I could post here, and overcome it I did. I know that when I post something and folks have differing views, it affords me an opportunity to review their argument and mine and sometimes, I learn something new. Sometimes I believe I was right the first time. But it’s my opinion, and that’s all it is. I don’t need people to agree with me to be confident about the thoughts that I entertain about UConn or anything else. I also don’t need to get the last post in an internet pi$$ing contest. Yet I feel it is important to be open minded, and also to realize that if there is enough dissent about something I post, it might be time to take a good, second look.


Sometimes that means heading to OZ to borrow some of the Cowardly Lion’s Courage.

 

[Zorro]

"If you can't stand the heat....". College posting boards are not for the faint of heart. You should SEE some of the shots that DoggieDaddy and I and a few others used to take over yonder, in spite of our strenuous attempts to be friendly, cordial and objective. (I think maybe it was the "objective" part that may have made us unpopular.) Seriously, very few on this board are rude, except as a response to rudeness. We value couth.

 

[Boxerpups4me]

This girl is making way too much of the whole process. I am not sure Uconn needs her ego. Why would you save bins full of letters from schools, in your living room. She should be narrowed to no more than four colleges. Why would it look different in the spring of 2014. She is enjoying the attention way too much. Just my opinion.....

I totally disagree herbie. Aja is living every high school girls basketball dream right now. This is a once in a lifetime experience and if she wants to wait until the last minute to decide, then good for her!! I've actually watched many aja interviews and this young lady has one of the most down to earth personalities I've ever seen. her parents have done a great job of raising her and it shows in the interviews she has done.

 

[HGN]

I've agreed and disagreed and never found anything but respectful discussions around here 99.9% of the time.



edited to say "here" instead of "her" - didn't want to be accused of talking about a fellow female poster ;-)

Patty, if you've found nothing but respectful discussions around this board its obvious you haven't been around us long enough yet. I'll check back in with you around mid March.

 

[ctchamps]

This girl is making way too much of the whole process. I am not sure Uconn needs her ego. Why would you save bins full of letters from schools, in your living room. She should be narrowed to no more than four colleges. Why would it look different in the spring of 2014. She is enjoying the attention way too much. Just my opinion.....

Some people spend a lot of time making decisions, some make quick judgements. Some are indecisive some are rash. This process might be easy for you, but not for Wilson. You could be correct about your assessment, partly correct or you can be completely off the mark. I know for sure that this is not the way you do things. But that doesn't mean that your way of doing it is the correct way for everyone.

A quick assessment between us. One thing I differ from you is coming to a conclusion about someone with the evidence you present. And unlike you, I don't think someone is wrong because they do things differently then the way I do them.

 

[Ozzie Nelson]

Don't "mean" to be rude, butt only a few of us qualify for the lock step rubric.

 

[JRRRJ]

Well, our current culture calls folks ignorant when they basically don't agree with us. In addition, Rudeness is entirely subjective in most cases. Just because a person is offended by what I say DOES NOT mean I was being rude.

I don't think the Boneyard reflects "current culture" at all. Lots more informed & accepting on average, so this seems a non sequitur.

Rudeness is relative only with regard to variation between cultures. It is succinctly defined as discourteousness or incivility and a bit more wordily as not taking the feelings of others into account.

Of course, as you pointed out earlier some people are more sensitive than they ought to be, and you might easily offend one with civil discourse when the audience for your utterances is large.

 

[doggydaddy]

I don't think the Boneyard reflects "current culture" at all. Lots more informed & accepting on average, so this seems a non sequitur.

Rudeness is relative only with regard to variation between cultures. It is succinctly defined as discourteousness or incivility and a bit more wordily as not taking the feelings of others into account.

Of course, as you pointed out earlier some people are more sensitive than they ought to be, and you might easily offend one with civil discourse when the audience for your utterances is large.

A poster disparaged a recruit. Others posters didn't like it and said so. Some were funny. Some were rude. Some were downright insulting.

Rinse and repeat. It's what happens here.

Herb is right about one thing. If it bothers you so much you have to start a thread about it......

Then don't post on The Boneyard.

 

[JRRRJ]

A poster disparaged a recruit. Others posters didn't like it and said so. Some were funny. Some were rude. Some were downright insulting.

Rinse and repeat. It's what happens here.

Herb is right about one thing. If it bothers you so much you have to start a thread about it......

Then don't post on The Boneyard.

Wow, DD. Seriously waspish today, eh what?

In this thread, he disparaged the Boneyard, not a recruit. You brought that (and your attitude about it) over here.

 

[ctchamps]

I agree. Seems folks here are a little bit "oversensitive". I think this is an overall trend in our society. It permeates this board which BTW I thoroughly enjoy.

There has always been a tension between individuals, between different tribes, and between the tribe and various individuals. No trending imo.

Getting individuals to conform to a perceived "correct" behavior has been going on since the beginning of human history, and maybe before we separated from our ancestors.

I will say this forum's concept of civility is quite different from what can be observed on the men's bb forum. It is interesting how each of the forums on the Boneyard have developed a "community" concept of behavior.

 

[Fishy]

Has anyone made fun of his hat yet?

I'm kinda late to the party and I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

 

[Stinger92860]

Has anyone made fun of his hat yet?

I'm kinda late to the party and I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

No, it's yours. I was going to comment on the bowling shirt.

 

[Icebear]

Don't worry, Fishy, his hat is on the opposite end from his toes.

 

[ChicagoGG]

Wow, DD. Seriously waspish today, eh what?

In this thread, he disparaged the Boneyard, not a recruit. You brought that (and your attitude about it) over here.

Well, HP is complaining that BY responses to his original post (which was not very kind about a recruit and her journey thru selecting a college) constitute an "attack." So, I think DD is responding to HP's response to criticism.
Both are fair game. But HP is a little sensitive IMO, considering his perceived insensitivity to a recruit. In short, HP feeels he was bitten, and so DD bit him again. It happens when arguments move from thread to thread. So be it.

 

[JRRRJ]

Well, HP is complaining that BY responses to his original post (which was not very kind about a recruit and her journey thru selecting a college) constitute an "attack." So, I think DD is responding to HP's response to criticism.
Both are fair game. But HP is a little sensitive IMO, considering his perceived insensitivity to a recruit. In short, HP feeels he was bitten, and so DD bit him again. It happens when arguments move from thread to thread. So be it.

Youse disagreein' wit' me?

 

[ChicagoGG]

Youse disagreein' wit' me?

Yah, but in a nice way....

 

[ctchamps]

unless you are in lock step with all of the "regular" posters, or clear your post with them first. Or expect to be attacked from all sides.......Friendly site.

Want to know something interesting. If you made a similar post to the one you made regarding Aja on the men's bb forum you would have received a lot of support. That is the difference between there and here.

However the rebuttal from those who disagreed with you would be far greater and more intense than anything this site dishes out. Over there people get chewed up and spit out even when things are going great. The badly wounded come over here to mend.

 

[rbny1]

unless you are in lock step with all of the "regular" posters, or clear your post with them first. Or expect to be attacked from all sides.......Friendly site.

If you are going to post dismissive statements about a recruit such as "I am not sure UConn needs her ego," and "She is enjoying the attention way too much," of course many other posters are going to disagree with you and some will do so vociferously.

I don't understand your complaint about being attacked. You fired a salvo. Others fired back. What did you expect? Did you think everyone was going to agree with you?

 

[JRRRJ]

Want to know something interesting. If you made a similar post to the one you made regarding Aja on the men's bb forum you would have received a lot of support. That is the difference between there and here.

However the rebuttal from those who disagreed with you would be far greater and more intense than anything this site dishes out. Over there people get chewed up and spit out even when things are going great. The badly wounded come over here to mend.

HP's castigation in the original thread came from his derogatory attribution of feelings & motivations to a person of whom he has no personal (and slight impersonal) knowledge.

This would have been supported on the men's board???

 

[doggydaddy]

Wow, DD. Seriously waspish today, eh what?

In this thread, he disparaged the Boneyard, not a recruit. You brought that (and your attitude about it) over here.

Excuse me, but he started this thread because of his original post disparaging the recruit and how he was treated. It is certainly relevant here.

Waspish? That is the first time this Jewish guy has ever been called that.

 

[UConnChapette]

Apples and oranges

Not really.

In the world of academia not geared toward the athletically gifted but the intellectually gifted, you may not realize it but there is a great deal of competition for the best and the brightest students. My sons never received letters from Yale, Harvard, MIT, Princeton - but they had friends who were HEAVILY "recruited" by those schools and who applied and were accepted by most, if not all, of them. My sons were no slouches to be sure. They received letters from some top notch schools (Stanford and CalTech among them). But they were not in the top echelon of students. Let's say they were among the top Div II talent for sake of comparison to athletics.

You are entitled to your own opinion, of course. But I am curious, and I am dead serious here. If there was a student who scored a perfect SAT score every time they took it, was a solid A+ student including advance placement courses and college level courses, won all kinds of academic awards and competitions, achieved success outside the classroom in running a business or publishing a book or inventing a product and that student received recruitment letters from every top academically ranked university and said student saved every one of them in boxes in their home (living room, bedroom, whereever) - would you feel the student was "making too much of the whole process" and that a given school "didn't need her/his ego"? Or is that sentiment reserved only for athletes?

I am not meaning to attack you. But I find your "apples and oranges" comment a bit insulting. Seems you equate the recruitment of students based on academics very differently than the recruitment of athletes. I presume you meant that the recruitment of athletically gifted student has a higher "ego" factor, or is more glamourous than recruitment based on "mere" academics. Or did I read too much into your "apples and oranges" statement?

 

[caravaggio]

I'm amazed at how posters have forgotten that, regardless of being the #1 or #3000 basketball player in the country, college is not (and should not be) only about basketball. College constitutes 4 very important, in some cases absolutely critical, years of personal and intellectual growth.

I can't believe that anyone would suggest that a high school student would make a decision without visiting and carefully examining such factors as the people she'll spend time with, the campus, the academic experience, the "culture" of the sports department and the university overall, etc. There are sooooo many other factors I could list that have to be considered.

Finally, even for those who are absolutely set on pursuing a basketball career (or even a business, engineering, law etc); she should not just choose indiscriminately and solely based upon "job" factors. For example, when I decided after law school which job to take, I didn't just choose based upon which had the best "professional" qualities, I also had to consider where I wanted to live, what the organization's environment and philosophy were, who my co-workers would be etc. It was not a quick or easy process.

I'm glad that A'ja is taking her time and analyzing her options carefully. Frankly, even if she were dragging it out because she is enjoying the experience: good for her! She earned all the attention, accolades, and opportunities she has received and deserves to enjoy them.

 

[Kibitzer]

Don't post on the Boneyard if you have this problem:

 

[Sonny44]

I thought things would settle down when the season started.

 

[Patty Bailey]

Patty, if you've found nothing but respectful discussions around this board its obvious you haven't been around us long enough yet. I'll check back in with you around mid March.

I've been around for many March/April periods. People may disagree around here (sometimes a LOT) but generally it is done respectfully and even those that are a bit below that "respectful" line are still pretty much head and shoulders above the level of vitriol I've seen on other boards.