Competition: Focus on South Carolina recruits, Tennessee is all hype.

[sawxfan23]

I don't have any problem with Tennessee Fans being very optimistic about their team. Most fans of any team do this including UCONN. As Nan posted above we UCONN Fans have very high expectations for Butler and she hasn't played one minute for UCONN yet.

It just gets old when you hear it every year and every year Tennessee doesn't live up to their expectations.

 

[connboy77]

It just gets old when you hear it every year and every year Tennessee doesn't live up to their expectations.

If Tennessee doesn't make the final four within the next three years then its not talent that is stopping them, its coaching.

 

[Suebird10fan]

she was already taking over the media with her play as freshman. she will be 1st team AA every year that she is eligible and will certainly be in the running for all POY awards. she is on her way to becoming a superstar...she may not quite be at that status yet but she is clearly headed there.

I was talking about actual value, not perceived value. Only the former is relevant to TN's NC championship prospects.

 

[DaddyChoc]

It just gets old when you hear it every year and every year Tennessee doesn't live up to their expectations.

that can be said about a few teams... I dont understand the big deal.

 

[sawxfan23]

that can be said about a few teams... I dont understand the big deal.

It isn't a big deal at all it just makes me less inclined to believe the hype regarding Tennessee when I hear it every year and every year they don't live up to that hype.

 

[FollowerCT]

If I were a Vol fan, I would have great expectations, hopes, for the individual players, team and coach to have an excellent season, be injury free and grow ... these are my expectations, hopes for UConn ... and regardless what has happened in the last several years, this year is a new one ... lack of success may indeed befall Tennessee (or UConn) this upcoming season ... hopefully all will be well, will grow, for both teams ... and I really would like to see UConn play Tennessee, face to face, sometime this year ... I appreciate good-natured, sometimes critical and thought provoking, back and forth banter among opposing fans ...

 

[Bestiarius]

Have we forgotten the Boneyard thread proclaiming a freshman transfer from Georgetown is a future All-American? It's the nature of fans to see the rosy side of things or else they wouldn't be very good fans,would they?

LVFan9 has been respectful here on the Boneyard. I see no need to be rude to her.

Not sure what you thought was rude. Perhaps the "crazy" comment. I was rebutting TennParker3's use of the word crazy and I thought LVFan9 had made that comment. I apologize. There are so many TN fan comments here lately, it's hard for me to remember who said what.

I think fans of other teams have to expect to be challenged when they make overly optimistic statements. I think UConn's rosy comments here are appropriate since it's a UConn board. I think opponent fans who challenge UConn's rosy comments should do it with logical, factual arguments or should expect harsh rebuttals.

 

[Kibitzer]

Holly knows the offense does not work and has eluded to as much.

ahem

I think you alluded to the fact that an effective offense has eluded Holly and her players in recent years.

(All in fun. I hope you have a season free of injuries.)

 

[Kibitzer]

It just gets old when you hear it every year and every year Tennessee doesn't live up to their expectations.

that can be said about a few teams... I dont understand the big deal.

Optimism reigns in the off-season! Permit me to paraphrase Alexander Pope:

"Hope springs eternal in the posters' texts."​

 

[DaddyChoc]

It isn't a big deal at all it just makes me less inclined to believe the hype regarding Tennessee when I hear it every year and every year they don't live up to that hype.

Duke as well, even Stanford and ND to a certain extent

 

[j66kicker]

Duke as well, even Stanford and ND to a certain extent

I think those teams have performed well enough to merit some optimism. Especially ND - after all, they DID go into the NC game undefeated last year. Wouldn't necessarily call that "hype". Stanford has been a consistent performer too, and their fans are pretty classy. Duke - well... (We still may not be over GG's "dynasty" hype, plus everybody loves to hate Duke. But really, they had no chance to be elite last year after all their injuries, and they still make a pretty good run for it.)

I think what bugs us about TN is 1) we just don't like them, due to the rivalry in the past, and 2) unlike Stanford and ND they haven't been relevant for most of the last decade, but their fans act like they still are. Shouldn't blame the fans though - at least they're loyal. Plus TN is assembling the talent to allow them to become relevant again, so look out.

 

[Gate81]

Who knows what TN will do with its talent, but one thing is clear thus far -- DD is truly a unique talent. I thought she was exciting to watch on TV but then I got to see her perform in person at the Stanford regional -- both vs. USC and Stanford, despite real ankle issues (purple in color). She is special and will be a major contributor and a game changer if the chemistry works.

BTW, with a few exceptions, Stanford usually performs above the expectations given its talent (and only rare ability to attract top 5/10 players); TN has been the opposite where they have a ton of talent but something goes amiss by the end of the year. They were ranked #3 early in the year when they lost to Stanford in the game when (if I recall correctly) then-freshman Lili Thompson asserted herself. As UCONN fans know, you need top talent plus the ability to get the most out of it/build a team that is greater than the sum of its parts!

 

[Kibitzer]

Basketball is almost unique among team sports in that all players on the court must play offense and defense with no goaltender. A consistent characteristic of UConn teams is that they play a suffocating team defense and a fluid offense, characterized by crisp passing and accurate shooting.

UConn has no patent on these fundamental traits of championship teams. We have seen Stanford hold UConn to 12 points in a half of an NC game. We have seen Notre Dame lay the wood to our Huskies often. And, occasionally, Duke and Baylor. Back in the day, Tennessee (but never in NC games).

So talent counts but team play counts more. Our guest posters are justified in their delight about their incoming talent. But UConn has some talent in the pipeline to Storrs, too.

And we have Geno and nobody else does.

Plus the Heart of a Champion.

The results are apparent and we have reason to expect this championship tradition to continue.

 

[HuskeySlim]

Frankly, I am happy that DD did not find her way to UCONN. She was the best freshman in the country last year. She IS a good player, and she will probably be an All-American, but I just did not want her at UCONN.

One or 2 players does not make a team. UCONN plays team ball like the Spurs did against the Heat.
Perhaps the year off will mature DD, and make her a much better player. It would be good for her, and tenn.
I am happy for tenn. Maybe it help put them on the road for future Final Fours.

There is more parity in WCBB, but to me it is still UCONN then everyone else. The next 2 years we win 2 National Championships if everyone stays healthy, especially Stewie. Just as it is with UCONN then everyone else, it is also Stewie then everyone else. I loved it in the Championship game against ND in the 1st half when
the sideline reporter told Muffet that her zone, and triangle and 2 seemed to be working well. Muffet said, " It is not working good enough, Stewie is just SCRATCHING THE GLASS, and we cannot stop her". That really tickled me.

 

[HuskyNan]

I think fans of other teams have to expect to be challenged when they make overly optimistic statements. I think UConn's rosy comments here are appropriate since it's a UConn board. I think opponent fans who challenge UConn's rosy comments should do it with logical, factual arguments or should expect harsh rebuttals.

I have no problem with arguments or rebuttals but why do they have to be harsh? Would you be harsh towards our Duke friends for being optimistic about their talent-laden but underperforming teams?

 

[rvwsleep]

I have no problem with arguments or rebuttals but why do they have to be harsh? Would you be harsh towards our Duke friends for being optimistic about their talent-laden but underperforming teams?

With all due respect Nan, that's a false equivalency. To this day you can find truly disgusting comments regarding Geno on Tennessee boards that not one Tennessee fan objects to and that the moderators find acceptable enough to not only leave as is but also feel that it's not necessary to issue a warning to the poster. Now I understand that not all Tennessee fans agree with such views but none of them admonished the poster. They sat by in quiet complicity. I don't see similar gutter postings about Geno on Duke boards. And that's the difference. It's difficult to welcome, with open arms, your guest when you know what is being said behind your back and the total capitulation by their fan base.

 

[Bayareahusky]

It is true the Summit is beyond belief.... complicity yes, and nary a word of peace to confront crazy postings..... but that is ok we have boneyard.....

and i love the democracy..... love the postings of others.... and i love the fervor of others with strong feelings for their team.....

I am glad they feel welcome here..... long live the boneyard

 

[HuskyNan]

With all due respect Nan, that's a false equivalency. To this day you can find truly disgusting comments regarding Geno on Tennessee boards that not one Tennessee fan objects to and that the moderators find acceptable enough to not only leave as is but also feel that it's not necessary to issue a warning to the poster. Now I understand that not all Tennessee fans agree with such views but none of them admonished the poster. They sat by in quiet complicity. I don't see similar gutter postings about Geno on Duke boards. And that's the difference. It's difficult to welcome, with open arms, your guest when you know what is being said behind your back and the total capitulation by their fan base.

Have you seen LVFans9 or tennparker or stwain or bball90 make these comments? If not, why are you holding them responsible because there are jerks on the Summit? Through the years, there have been threads on the Boneyard complaining that Summitt says that "all UConn fans think...." when only a couple people have posted about whatever it is that has their panties in a bunch. How is this different, this taking our 4-5 respectful LV fans to task for what the Tin Foil Hatters say?

Think, guys, think who is really bothering you - and I mean by name. If those people post here on the Boneyard, well, they can be responded to in like but when our current Tennessee visitors treat you with civility and respect, why would you respond with rudeness?

It is still unbelievable to me that people defend their "right" to be rude to other people. As a person, not an admin, it astounds me that someone thinks they have a valid reason to be nasty to another human being. And as an admin, it bemuses me that UConn fans think that emulating the Tin Foil Hatters, with their sneering and condescension, is different, somehow more high road. It's not, btw.

 

[rvwsleep]

I wasn't condoning rudeness, I was offering an explanation for the reaction of some boneyarders to our Tennessee guests. I explicitly stated that "not all Tennessee fans agree with such views". What I will take our 3-4 respectful LV fans to task for is their (I believe, but I could be mistaken, that all of them post on VolNation) silence to absolutely contrived accusations against Geno.
"It is still unbelievable to me that people defend their rudeness to other people". I trust this is directed at myself. If I have been even remotely rude to any of our Tennessee guests, I will apologize profusely. Just show me the error of my ways.

 

[LadyVols9]

Have you seen LVFans9 or tennparker or stwain or bball90 make these comments? If not, why are you holding them responsible because there are jerks on the Summit? Through the years, there have been threads on the Boneyard complaining that Summitt says that "all UConn fans think...." when only a couple people have posted about whatever it is that has their panties in a bunch. How is this different, this taking our 4-5 respectful LV fans to task for what the Tin Foil Hatters say?

Think, guys, think who is really bothering you - and I mean by name. If those people post here on the Boneyard, well, they can be responded to in like but when our current Tennessee visitors treat you with civility and respect, why would you respond with rudeness?

It is still unbelievable to me that people defend their "right" to be rude to other people. As a person, not an admin, it astounds me that someone thinks they have a valid reason to be nasty to another human being. And as an admin, it bemuses me that UConn fans think that emulating the Tin Foil Hatters, with their sneering and condescension, is different, somehow more high road. It's not, btw.

thanks Nan. i really like conversing with the people on this board. UCONN is the team to beat right now and everyone is else just trying to put the pieces together in order to put up a real fight.
night all

 

[Zorro]

I occasionally check out Volnation, and it is a very different place from The Summitt. While there are a few vitriolic Geno haters there, the great majority of posts are reasonable and thoughtful. Most of the crazies must still be behind the Orange Curtain. And I find our non-Husky-fan guests to be assets to the BY.

 

[trb123]

Have you seen LVFans9 or tennparker or stwain or bball90 make these comments?

No, I have not seen them make those comments. They are known to me for the company they keep (on the Summitt).

 

[tennparker3]

ahem

I think you alluded to the fact that an effective offense has eluded Holly and her players in recent years.

(All in fun. I hope you have a season free of injuries.)

Oh good grief, I need to proof read. I'm cringing at myself. My hopes are the same for you as well.

 

[tennparker3]

I frequent both Summitt and Boneyard boards (obviously Summitt more often) and they are very similar in content. Most threads are related to players, coaches, recruits, and alumni. There are a few posters from other fan bases including a UConn fan that is very respectful and does get some rude barbs thrown their way but a majority of us welcome back and forth banter. There are also cases sometimes of fans of other teams that get the trial membership and post a one time nasty message to us all because a thread does not contain what they want it to and then leave the board. The biggest similarity is that when either team is brought up there is a long discussion that usually follows. I will say that a majority of people on the Summitt may not like Geno but give him and UConn their due credit for all the success. From personal experience I know in the past when I explain my excitement about a player coming in I have sometimes been met with argument as if it was offensive to them for me to be excited for a player that could become very successful. That's when I start scratching my head... and that will sometimes result in a rude reply by me. I find a majority of poster to be quite respectful and I wouldn't bother coming back every now and then if I didn't think that.

 

[Sluconn Husky]

As the rankings show, 5 of the AAC's 10 member teams (50%) had lower-ranked scoring offenses than even the lowest-ranked member team of the SEC. Once you got past UConn and UL - the top 2 scoring teams last season - the ability of AAC teams to score dropped off substantially. Just data for consideration...

I agree with a lot of your points. However, those differences in conference offenses faced are pretty much offset by the non-conference offenses each team faced.

UConn played Duke, Maryland, Baylor, Stanford, and Penn State.

Outside of North Carolina, the GameCocks' non-conference offenses included:

Seton Hall (87), Charleston (126), Winthrop (151), Charlotte (153), USC (177), Savannah State (198), Louisiana Tech (229), San Diego St. (249), Charleston Southern (269), Clemson (309), South Carolina State (319), and NC Central (325).

 

[HuskyNan]

No, I have not seen them make those comments. They are known to me for the company they keep (on the Summitt).

So you have no problem if a fan of another program is nasty to you because he doesn't like, say, TonyC's posts?

 

[Bayareahusky]

Hello TP3..... I like to let sleeping dogs lie..... but I must say i disagree with your contention that Summiteers give Geno his due..... Most recently a couple of weeks ago, when I took a peek there..... many comments are still very angry..... including about things that have never been proven.....

I don't even want to go any further.... because I like the high road...... but I still see a lot of anger toward Geno especially (cheater, arrogant, no class, not doing things "the right way", not to mention the whole bag of apples regarding the 2007 charges filed by, and fervently believed by, Vol Nation).....

I love you guys when i meet you at the games...... i just wish the Summit weren't so bitter.... Rodney King "Can't we all get along?" I am glad we can on this forum..... Keep posting, love gettin' your take on things.

 

[connboy77]

I read, but do not post on Vol Nation. I find it for the most part very good. Like most boards you find an occasional dumb post. The visitors on this board are very respectful and are welcomed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether or not we agree with it. UCONN Fans can not expect fans of other teams not to be optimistic about their teams. Yes, I know sometimes their predictions do not come true, but to be fair neither do ours. I hope that these visitors continue to post here.

 

[Tonyc]

I have no problem with arguments or rebuttals but why do they have to be harsh? Would you be harsh towards our Duke friends for being optimistic about their talent-laden but underperforming teams?

I agree with Nan. Let me add the Tenn fans who post to this board have for the most part been just like any other fans. There heart for their team is just like the heart of all other fans. They are excited because they think they can compete with UConn just like ND fans did last season and just like Duke and Stanford fans did last season. We need to be respectful of them. Yes I dont like Tenn because Im still angry about what Tenn did to us with the 37 page report but I truly believe these fans come here as fans not to hurt UConn but to express there excitement for their team. There is good and bad in every fan, these fans seen to be good fans. Can we give them a chance and allow Nan and our mods to handle them if they get out of line just like she handles us.

 

[mhshuskies]

I would much rather see both programs on the rise and nd decline.