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AZHuskiePop said:
Regardless of the numbers UConn received zero compensation for thebir

How much money was UConn compensated for what ever the actual numbers were ?. I believe the answer is zero.
Sounds like a clear case of sexual discrimination by the folks over in Btistol.
Maybe Hillary or Donsld could pick this up as a campaign issue,
Could it also be the reason ESPN has been against our moving to another conference?
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The rights to the tournament are owned by the NCAA. What conference anyone is in doesn't matter.

I'm pretty sure the women's tournament is lumped in with the deal that gets ESPN the CWS, Lacrosse, Hockey, FCS football and everything else outside of MBB.

I couldn't find a confirmation of the amount but it might only be like $500 million total for 12 years.

So there really isn't any money to distribute from the women's tournament.
 
whaler11 said:
The rights to the tournament are owned by the NCAA. What conference anyone is in doesn't matter.

I'm pretty sure the women's tournament is lumped in with the deal that gets ESPN the CWS, Lacrosse, Hockey, FCS football and everything else outside of MBB.

I couldn't find a confirmation of the amount but it might only be like $500 million total for 12 years.

So there really isn't any money to distribute from the women's tournament.
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I'm well aware of the claim that ESPN/NCAA makes that the women's tourney mskes no money .
That may our may not be true , but it's actually moot to my suggestion. How much of the money generated by the Tournry is UConn related. That would be an interesting stat. ESPN also has the broadcast rights to UConn games both men and women through the media deal with the AAC. They feature both these teams a significant number of times and the women especially because of their unique status generate significant revenue for the Bristol boys .
So in effect our women's team receives no compensation for the revenue they generate.
Apparently ESPN is opposed to the Big 12 adding UConn ,could it possibly be the result of their Explotation of women's basketball.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
I'm well aware of the claim that ESPN/NCAA makes that the women's tourney mskes no money .
That may our may not be true , but it's actually moot to my suggestion. How much of the money generated by the Tournry is UConn related. That would be an interesting stat. ESPN also has the broadcast rights to UConn games both men and women through the media deal with the AAC. They feature both these teams a significant number of times and the women especially because of their unique status generate significant revenue for the Bristol boys .
So in effect our women's team receives no compensation for the revenue they generate.
Apparently ESPN is opposed to the Big 12 adding UConn ,could it possibly be the result of their Explotation of women's basketball.
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I'm sure ESPN makes money on it but it's not really their job to distribute money to UConn.

If ESPN is against UConn being in the Big 12 - which may or may not be true - you can rest easy it has nothing to do with exploiting women's basketball.

That the American has a bad deal isn't ESPN's fault.
 
Reading through the whaler/upstate feud makes me think we need a sports cesspool.
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
I'm well aware of the claim that ESPN/NCAA makes that the women's tourney mskes no money .
That may our may not be true , but it's actually moot to my suggestion. How much of the money generated by the Tournry is UConn related. That would be an interesting stat. ESPN also has the broadcast rights to UConn games both men and women through the media deal with the AAC. They feature both these teams a significant number of times and the women especially because of their unique status generate significant revenue for the Bristol boys .
So in effect our women's team receives no compensation for the revenue they generate.
Apparently ESPN is opposed to the Big 12 adding UConn ,could it possibly be the result of their Explotation of women's basketball.
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Rights to the women's tournament is lumped into the umbrella deal that ESPN negotiates with the NCAA - also lets them market the men's tournament internationally, but not domestically.

The payout for the women's tournament is functionally zero - that's not ESPN's doing, it's the NCAA.

The NCAA effectively attributes zero dollars to each women's tournament win. Win one, get zero. Win six, get zero,
 
whaler11 said:
I'm sure ESPN makes money on it but it's not really their job to distribute money to UConn.

If ESPN is against UConn being in the Big 12 - which may or may not be true - you can rest easy it has nothing to do with exploiting women's basketball.
Maybe so but the end result is ESPN gets a bunch of pretty appealing women's games for zero cost to them .
Explotation never the less
That the American has a bad deal isn't ESPN's fault.
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No I blame Aresco's stupity ,but based on your agrument it's fine to pay a women a fraction of what you pay a man simply because she will accept that amount.
Shakey moral grounds
 
Fishy said:
The NCAA effectively attributes zero dollars to each women's tournament win. Win one, get zero. Win six, get zero,
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Just to Spartacus with Emmert a few of us, claiming to be fans of the women's basketball programs at UConn, Stanford, Tennessee etc (schools who would have accumulated a significant amount of NCAA tournament credits) should start a Title IX lawsuit against the NCAA.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
No I blame Aresco's stupity ,but based on your agrument it's fine to pay a women a fraction of what you pay a man simply because she will accept that amount.
Shakey moral grounds
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So there is a moral aspect to the NBA contact being higher than the WNBA contact?

Um nobody is paying men or women - they are paying schools which last I checked don't have specific genders.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I think a lot of people are having the same experience.
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Bragging about reading the ignorant half of the debate is perfect for the passive aggressive tools around here.

You don't want your feelings hurt by anyone who doesn't agree with you about everything. What kind of a clown brags about that?
 
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whaler11 said:
Bragging about reading the ignorant half of the debate is perfect for the passive aggressive tools around here.

You don't want your feelings hurt by anyone who doesn't agree with you about everything. What kind of a clown brags about that?
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MountainMan said:
One number that UConn does really well on is combined attendance for FB, BB, and WBB. Add up all the fans who bought tickets to watch those 3 sports and UConn really shines.
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The FB and MBB fan is often the same fan, one in fall and one in winter. Many WBB fans do not follow FB or MBB, so they are additive to the fan base. The women's fan is also older and so provides a wider demographic for advertisers.

Few years back SC fans did not care about WBB. Last year when UConn played SC, many of their fans compared the anticipation of that game equivalent to Alabama and Georgia FB games. As schools, like Texas, SC get better and begin to challenge UConn, fan interest will spike, IMO.

Finally, a case can be made that UConn WBB is followed nationally, as this anecdotal video clip from Memphis seems to indicate(1:10 min).
 
whaler11 said:
I'm sure ESPN makes money on it but it's not really their job to distribute money to UConn.

If ESPN is against UConn being in the Big 12 - which may or may not be true - you can rest easy it has nothing to do with exploiting women's basketball.

That the American has a bad deal isn't ESPN's fault.
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Well... it kind of is, actually. If ESPN hadn't bankrolled ACC's raids on the Big East, the AAC would still be the Big East and UConn would still be in the best Basketball conference in the nation, which was a also a decent football conference. It would undoubtedly be making more TV money than it is right now.
 
ESPN was scared that the Big 12 might snag Syracuse or Boston College.
 
King Husky said:
It's been over 2 days since there has been a premium tweet... Calm before the storm?
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Waiting for the weekend's football games. If Cal upsets Texas and if Ohio St takes care of Oklahoma, the XII is likely out of the FBS playoffs for this season before October begins and that may kill the conference on its own...
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Waiting for the weekend's football games. If Cal upsets Texas and if Ohio St takes care of Oklahoma, the XII is likely out of the FBS playoffs for this season before October begins and that may kill the conference on its own...
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Which is more reason why they wouldn't want to admit Houston into the big 12. Bringing Houston in would diminish recruiting in Texas and specifically the Houston area. None of the Texas schools would want to diminish their recruiting ability in Texas.
 
CL82 said:
If ESPN hadn't bankrolled ACC's raids on the Big East, the AAC would still be the Big East and UConn would still be in the best Basketball conference in the nation, which was a also a decent football conference. .
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ESPN's alleged " bankrolling of the ACC's alleged raid on the BE " had nothing at all to do with the collapse of the BE football League. The BE was a basketball centric league run by basketball people of N.E. out of basketball centric Providence. Rhode Island. Once Miami ( a football centric school in the South decided to go to the ACC) it was inevitable that the BE football league was going to collapse. Without Miami as the BE football League's lynchpin, it was no longer a question of " if " the BE football league would collapse, but merely the question of " when ". The BE Football League side of the BE unraveled rather quickly as it turned out. And ESPN was more or less a bystander in the departure of Miami football from the BE, which started the dominos to fall, and the BE Fooball League to collaspse. So this notion that ESPN had any role at all in the collapse of the BE Football League is fiction.
 
Yawkey Way said:
ESPN's alleged " bankrolling of the ACC's alleged raid on the BE " had nothing at all to do with the collapse of the BE football League. The BE was a basketball centric league run by basketball people of N.E. out of basketball centric Providence. Rhode Island. Once Miami ( a football centric school in the South decided to go to the ACC) it was inevitable that the BE football league was going to collapse. Without Miami as the BE football League's lynchpin, it was no longer a question of " if " the BE football league would collapse, but merely the question of " when ". The BE Football League side of the BE unraveled rather quickly as it turned out. And ESPN was more or less a bystander in the departure of Miami football from the BE, which started the dominos to fall, and the BE Fooball League to collaspse. So this notion that ESPN had any role at all in the collapse of the BE Football League is fiction.
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Except your own AD admitted that it did.
 
HuskyBandDad said:
Car wash guys said announcement to be made at half time Saturday Virginia game.
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Knowing how the "Car Wash Guy" is normally portrayed as some sort of old-timey magic entity straight out of the the twilight zone, his car probably appeared out of thin air, and he hopped out and said:

"Well hello there, young whippersnapper! I'm hearing big things. BIG THINGS!!" *wink*, "Fortune favors the bold, oh yes, and your Huskies have been bold with a capital B! Keep an eye out when those boys come up from the tobacco fields, they bring tidings along with them when the sun is at its highest. Fortune favors the bold young man, the future is bright, bright as the rims on my steel horse here, once the simonizing is complete!"

and then he cackles and pops out of existence
 
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alexd. said:
SCANDAL: ESPN Told The ACC Which Teams To Take From Big East Conference
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Advising the ACC on which schools it thinks were best is not the same as orchestrating a raid on the Big East. We all know this. We also know it valued Pitt, UConn and Syracuse about the same. We always give ESPN way more credit than it deserves on this topic, just as The Dude of WV basements gives them way more credit than they deserve with respect to the Big 12. No conference expands without consulting its media partners.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Advising the ACC on which schools it thinks were best is not the same as orchestrating a raid on the Big East. We all know this. We also know it valued Pitt, UConn and Syracuse about the same. We always give ESPN way more credit than it deserves on this topic, just as The Dude of WV basements gives them way more credit than they deserve with respect to the Big 12. No conference expands without consulting its media partners.
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They consistently wrote checks to underwrite the raiding of the Big East.

That's not consulting - that's funding a war.
 
Fishy said:
They consistently wrote checks to underwrite the raiding of the Big East.

That's not consulting - that's funding a war.
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Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
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Generally speaking, the guys who write the checks are the guys who make the decisions.

The ACC was owned from stem to stern by ESPN; unlike some of the other conferences who had multiple television partners and/or more clout, the ACC couldn't change the drapes without having ESPN pick the color.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
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Yes. ESPN directed ACC to expand as soon as BE turned down the TV deal proposed by the ESPN. Instead of letting BE go to the open market to get a better TV deal, ESPN decided to rip the BE apart by funding the ACC expansion. Through its actions, ESPN virtually destroyed the BE by using the ACC as the weapon of the choice.

This is a cutthroat business. Instead of risk losing the BE to NBC or FOX, ESPN used the ACC to control as much media assets as possible through the ACC expansion since ESPN has all of ACC's media rights. ESPN will protect the ACC as long as it controls much of the ACC's media rights. As a result, UCONN, USF, and Cincy were damaged . I would love to see a massive lawsuit against ESPN and the ACC just to get some of these backroom dealings out in the deposition. I doubt it will happen though.
 
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