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ESPN was scared that the Big 12 might snag Syracuse or Boston College.
 
King Husky said:
It's been over 2 days since there has been a premium tweet... Calm before the storm?
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Waiting for the weekend's football games. If Cal upsets Texas and if Ohio St takes care of Oklahoma, the XII is likely out of the FBS playoffs for this season before October begins and that may kill the conference on its own...
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Waiting for the weekend's football games. If Cal upsets Texas and if Ohio St takes care of Oklahoma, the XII is likely out of the FBS playoffs for this season before October begins and that may kill the conference on its own...
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Which is more reason why they wouldn't want to admit Houston into the big 12. Bringing Houston in would diminish recruiting in Texas and specifically the Houston area. None of the Texas schools would want to diminish their recruiting ability in Texas.
 
CL82 said:
If ESPN hadn't bankrolled ACC's raids on the Big East, the AAC would still be the Big East and UConn would still be in the best Basketball conference in the nation, which was a also a decent football conference. .
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ESPN's alleged " bankrolling of the ACC's alleged raid on the BE " had nothing at all to do with the collapse of the BE football League. The BE was a basketball centric league run by basketball people of N.E. out of basketball centric Providence. Rhode Island. Once Miami ( a football centric school in the South decided to go to the ACC) it was inevitable that the BE football league was going to collapse. Without Miami as the BE football League's lynchpin, it was no longer a question of " if " the BE football league would collapse, but merely the question of " when ". The BE Football League side of the BE unraveled rather quickly as it turned out. And ESPN was more or less a bystander in the departure of Miami football from the BE, which started the dominos to fall, and the BE Fooball League to collaspse. So this notion that ESPN had any role at all in the collapse of the BE Football League is fiction.
 
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Yawkey Way said:
ESPN's alleged " bankrolling of the ACC's alleged raid on the BE " had nothing at all to do with the collapse of the BE football League. The BE was a basketball centric league run by basketball people of N.E. out of basketball centric Providence. Rhode Island. Once Miami ( a football centric school in the South decided to go to the ACC) it was inevitable that the BE football league was going to collapse. Without Miami as the BE football League's lynchpin, it was no longer a question of " if " the BE football league would collapse, but merely the question of " when ". The BE Football League side of the BE unraveled rather quickly as it turned out. And ESPN was more or less a bystander in the departure of Miami football from the BE, which started the dominos to fall, and the BE Fooball League to collaspse. So this notion that ESPN had any role at all in the collapse of the BE Football League is fiction.
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Except your own AD admitted that it did.
 
HuskyBandDad said:
Car wash guys said announcement to be made at half time Saturday Virginia game.
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Knowing how the "Car Wash Guy" is normally portrayed as some sort of old-timey magic entity straight out of the the twilight zone, his car probably appeared out of thin air, and he hopped out and said:

"Well hello there, young whippersnapper! I'm hearing big things. BIG THINGS!!" *wink*, "Fortune favors the bold, oh yes, and your Huskies have been bold with a capital B! Keep an eye out when those boys come up from the tobacco fields, they bring tidings along with them when the sun is at its highest. Fortune favors the bold young man, the future is bright, bright as the rims on my steel horse here, once the simonizing is complete!"

and then he cackles and pops out of existence
 
alexd. said:
SCANDAL: ESPN Told The ACC Which Teams To Take From Big East Conference
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Advising the ACC on which schools it thinks were best is not the same as orchestrating a raid on the Big East. We all know this. We also know it valued Pitt, UConn and Syracuse about the same. We always give ESPN way more credit than it deserves on this topic, just as The Dude of WV basements gives them way more credit than they deserve with respect to the Big 12. No conference expands without consulting its media partners.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Advising the ACC on which schools it thinks were best is not the same as orchestrating a raid on the Big East. We all know this. We also know it valued Pitt, UConn and Syracuse about the same. We always give ESPN way more credit than it deserves on this topic, just as The Dude of WV basements gives them way more credit than they deserve with respect to the Big 12. No conference expands without consulting its media partners.
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They consistently wrote checks to underwrite the raiding of the Big East.

That's not consulting - that's funding a war.
 
Fishy said:
They consistently wrote checks to underwrite the raiding of the Big East.

That's not consulting - that's funding a war.
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Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
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Generally speaking, the guys who write the checks are the guys who make the decisions.

The ACC was owned from stem to stern by ESPN; unlike some of the other conferences who had multiple television partners and/or more clout, the ACC couldn't change the drapes without having ESPN pick the color.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
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Yes. ESPN directed ACC to expand as soon as BE turned down the TV deal proposed by the ESPN. Instead of letting BE go to the open market to get a better TV deal, ESPN decided to rip the BE apart by funding the ACC expansion. Through its actions, ESPN virtually destroyed the BE by using the ACC as the weapon of the choice.

This is a cutthroat business. Instead of risk losing the BE to NBC or FOX, ESPN used the ACC to control as much media assets as possible through the ACC expansion since ESPN has all of ACC's media rights. ESPN will protect the ACC as long as it controls much of the ACC's media rights. As a result, UCONN, USF, and Cincy were damaged . I would love to see a massive lawsuit against ESPN and the ACC just to get some of these backroom dealings out in the deposition. I doubt it will happen though.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
Yes. ESPN directed ACC to expand as soon as BE turned down the TV deal proposed by the ESPN. Instead of letting BE go to the open market to get a better TV deal, ESPN decided to rip the BE apart by funding the ACC expansion. Through its actions, ESPN virtually destroyed the BE by using the ACC as the weapon of the choice.

This is a cutthroat business. Instead of risk losing the BE to NBC or FOX, ESPN used the ACC to control as much media assets as possible through the ACC expansion since ESPN has all of ACC's media rights. ESPN will protect the ACC as long as it controls much of the ACC's media rights. As a result, UCONN, USF, and Cincy were damaged . I would love to see a massive lawsuit against ESPN and the ACC just to get some of these backroom dealings out in the deposition. I doubt it will happen though.
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I understand the sentiment, but we don't need more lawsuits. Blumenthal did enough damage by taking that route. I just hope we end up in the Big 12 or, better yet, the B1G. Then the ACC, their duplicitous and useless collection of former BE members and the entirety of ESPN can settle beneath the waves, preferably stern first.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Yes, but do you really think ESPN directed the ACC to expand? Or that the ACC decided to expand and ESPN said, "heck yes, we're in on that. Here's the extra money you need to make it work."
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They did give them the extra money to make it work. If they hadn't, it wouldn't have worked.
 
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upstater said:
They did give them the extra money to make it work. If they hadn't, it wouldn't have worked.
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Yes, no question. I'm not saying they didn't want and facilitate the expansion, they did. I just tend to think that the ACC drove it, with ESPN's help. Honestly, we don't really know. Maybe ESPN did orchestrate the whole thing.
 
And right now everyone wants ESPN and Fox to help destroy the American by funding and pushing UConn.

So it's a bit hypocritical to be all bent out of shape. It was really Pittsburgh who screwed everyone anyway. They pushed for turning down the contract - which was the motivation to add them.
 
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whaler11 said:
And right now everyone wants ESPN and Fox to help destroy the American by funding and pushing UConn.

So it's a bit hypocritical to be all bent out of shape. It was really Pittsburgh who screwed everyone anyway. They pushed for turning down the contract - which was the motivation to add them.
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Hey, we're UConn fans. Have we met?
 
whaler11 said:
And right now everyone wants ESPN and Fox to help destroy the American by funding and pushing UConn.

So it's a bit hypocritical to be all bent out of shape. It was really Pittsburgh who screwed everyone anyway. They pushed for turning down the contract - which was the motivation to add them.
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Going to have to disagree on the AAC part. AAC is a G5 conference with a huge disparity in media payouts comparing to P5 conferences. Teams are going to leave one way or another if any P5 conference comes calling regardless what ESPN or FOX thinks. Big East was a former BCS conference. It received a contract that would have paid members around $14M to $15M per year. Even if some teams leave, that per year payout would have kept the conference afloat since it could have backfilled teams easily from G5 conferences.
 
I actually think realignment might end up being good for both the Big 12 and the AAC. I get the feeling that the AAC want to try this TV deal again with 16 schools in all 4 time zones with a focus on football.
 
If there is no expansion - becoming more and more likely - I would think that some of the Mt. West schools may give the American a serious look considering the final cut has been almost entirely AAC programs. The 12 team American + BYU, Boise, Nevada and Colorado State to make a 16 team football conference would be pretty damn good.
 
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NYUConn said:
If there is no expansion - becoming more and more likely - I would think that some of the Mt. West schools may give the American a serious look considering the final cut has been almost entirely AAC programs. The 12 team American + BYU, Boise, Nevada and Colorado State to make a 16 team football conference would be pretty damn good.
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That'd be a nice compromise, though it'd be great if we could find a way to shed Tulane and Tulsa.
 
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