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Nate Miles was a really nice kid from the worst kind of background you could imagine (actually you couldn’t imagine it). If you want to see exhibit A on the educational and Child Welfare systems failing kids, see Nate Miles. That he gets portrayed as some sort of bad egg that was beyond help is ignorant. You can suggest that maybe he didn’t belong in college, but don’t confuse the end result with what type of kid he was or how Hathaway threw him under the bus

You have got me wrong.

I actually would encourage Calhoun to go do this. I LOVE the Caron Butler story. And I am ok with Wrenn, Wiggins, Toraino, Nate Miles. From some notion that they could have gotten a college degree. My Mom went from being a professor/college president's wife with lots of kids to an Inner City school nurse with a gaggle of kids from Crack families as her minions. I understand the soulfulness of reaching for these kids.

But ... oftentimes ... you get some bad stories because the support is not enough. Father Flanagan Calhoun puts to rest Ollie not having compliance to standards of Right Kid. You take risk ... that you think can work for your Program. WE ARE NOT a school that can't support them.
 
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Yeah Im sure Calhoun didnt agree with getting his point guard back on the cusp of making a title run with a loaded team that had no other point guard.

If Calhoun wanted him suspended for the same amount of time he simply couldve left him on the bench or in street clothes.

That is a hilarious premise upstater. Thanks for the laugh.

Since I got you here, what do you think about Tom Brady ripping off the public with new fitness equipment?

You have forgotten the particulars of laptop incident. It was a school penalty. Calhoun's was shorter. He was upset. This isn't even a secret--it was in the Hartford Courant!

Marcus was also saved by the fact that while AJ was questioned right away about the case, Marcus was traveling overseas on a basketball tour and he never had to respond immediately. He got to see and understand all the ramifications of his actions. Weeks went by without him being questioned.
 
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You have got me wrong.

I actually would encourage Calhoun to go do this. I LOVE the Caron Butler story. And I am ok with Wrenn, Wiggins, Toraino, Nate Miles. From some notion that they could have gotten a college degree. My Mom went from being a professor/college president's wife with lots of kids to an Inner City school nurse with a gaggle of kids from Crack families as her minions. I understand the soulfulness of reaching for these kids.

But ... oftentimes ... you get some bad stories because the support is not enough. Father Flanagan Calhoun puts to rest Ollie not having compliance to standards of Right Kid. You take risk ... that you think can work for your Program. WE ARE NOT a school that can't support them.

I always felt Nate did not get due process as did Calhoun. Nate’s first hearing was disrupted by protestors from the Women’s Cemter shouting and making lots of noise. The academic bureaucrats on the committee were clearly intimidated and Nate got a raw deal.

Violating a restraining order was clear cut but done out of ignorance but the underlying sexual assault never happened. It was pushed by the mother who did not want her daughter dating Nate for reasons I think I know.

At any rate, we had a little surprise coming for the anti Nate people at the next hearing - some protestors of our own. It would have been an interesting mix - a bus load of teamsters with a keg of beer for their trip to Storrs and the Women Center protestors. But, Emmert and Hathaway happened and the hearing never took place. Not big fans of them.
 
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I've learned so much in this thread. (Mostly a reinforcement that we don't need separate threads for spin zone reruns.)

Message board discussions need self-professed insiders to let us know they know what we do not know.
Self-professed insiders have their followers and cynics.
Certain insiders and cynics would be able to run a successful major college program.
A successful major college program steers clear of JUCOs.
JUCO kids come from the basketball of deplorables.
One such kid f.u.'s coach so kid gets suspended.
Kid gets suspended so another reason why coach deserves to get fired.
(At this point thread has been jumped and many silently go "Aargh, here we go again!")
Coach deserves to get fired so prior coach's suspensions are called into question.
Prior coach suspended kids but didn't deserve to get fired.
Prior coach didn't deserve to get fired because he won.
Winning coach is respected by his large base and called into question by few while losing coach is dissected and desecrated by many and respected by only his shrinking base.
Majority opinion is loudest in the war of words.
When out of opinion ammunition, cowardly posters devolve into personal attack.
Personal attack battles, what fun.
Fun is discussion.
Discuss.
 

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If it were up to Calhoun, the suspensions would have been the same. It was the school disciplinary committee that ruled differently. Calhoun did not agree with it.

Yes, he thought they both should have received the lesser punishment.
 

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I always felt Nate did not get due process as did Calhoun. Nate’s first hearing was disrupted by protestors from the Women’s Cemter shouting and making lots of noise. The academic bureaucrats on the committee were clearly intimidated and Nate got a raw deal.

Violating a restraining order was clear cut but done out of ignorance but the underlying sexual assault never happened. It was pushed by the mother who did not want her daughter dating Nate for reasons I think I know.

At any rate, we had a little surprise coming for the anti Nate people at the next hearing - some protestors of our own. It would have been an interesting mix - a bus load of teamsters with a keg of beer for their trip to Storrs and the Women Center protestors. But, Emmert and Hathaway happened and the hearing never took place. Not big fans of them.
You know a sexual assault never happened? Were you under their bed? And who the hell thinks a bus full of drunken Teamsters protesting a university disciplinary hearing is a fine idea?

This place has gone beyond stupid at this point.
 

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You know a sexual assault never happened? Were you under their bed? And who the hell thinks a bus full of drunken Teamsters protesting a university disciplinary hearing is a fine idea?

This place has gone beyond stupid at this point.

You're arguing with Chief, you get what you sign up for.
 
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We’ll always have that early three against Wichita State

That had me channeling my inner Lou Brown... "Nice three Cobb. Don't ever do it again."

And then he hoisted another one.
 
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I felt bad for Nate but it wasn’t because of how he was treated. He simply had no business being on a college campus as a student. His life was a mess and he was unprepared academically socially and emotionally to be part of a college community. The result was that he was embarrassed and a woman was at best harassed and probably assaulted and Calhoun and the program were collateral damage. This incident showed how badly Calhoun wanted another title. The irony is he got it with a much more likable guy as the leader
 
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I felt bad for Nate but it wasn’t because of how he was treated. He simply had no business being on a college campus as a student. His life was a mess and he was unprepared academically socially and emotionally to be part of a college community. The result was that he was embarrassed and a woman was at best harassed and probably assaulted and Calhoun and the program were collateral damage. This incident showed how badly Calhoun wanted another title. The irony is he got it with a much more likable guy as the leader

Or ... alternatively ... Calhoun thought that the Butler story was repeatable. And there was a slim chance of probability; he was wrong this once.
 
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Bummer. I thought he had an interesting skill set. Never full realized, but with tons of potential and upside. Hope he sorts things out. If he can improve his attitude and is able to get back on the team, he could be a valuable asset moving forward.
 
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Bummer. I thought he had an interesting skill set. Never full realized, but with tons of potential and upside. Hope he sorts things out. If he can improve his attitude and is able to get back on the team, he could be a valuable asset moving forward.

I may or may not be among the optimistic posters here, but I have to say I gave up on Cobb very early in the season. I have very little patience for lack of effort on D or people doing whatever they want on the floor. I am surprised it actually took this long.
 
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I may or may not be among the optimistic posters here, but I have to say I gave up on Cobb very early in the season. I have very little patience for lack of effort on D or people doing whatever they want on the floor. I am surprised it actually took this long.

He has the most talent of any of the current big men on the roster, although some of the bigs probably have more upside. But you have to question his play. I can't believe that Ollie was happy with Cobb's freelancing on the court like bringing the ball up the court and shooting 3s. I hope Cobb changes his attitude as he can help the team.
 

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