Cincy approved $85m stadium expansion

[zls44]

UConn's surrogates in the media and PR circles

The problem is UConn:
1. Doesn't have any.
2. Doesn't try to get any.


I can give a long laundry list of examples if you'd like, but you can start with the total lack of any coverage of the football team reporting to campus. The main beat writer has spent the entire day discussing civil rights.

 

[whaler11]

The problem is UConn:
1. Doesn't have any.
2. Doesn't try to get any.


I can give a long laundry list of examples if you'd like, but you can start with the total lack of any coverage of the football team reporting to campus. The main beat writer has spent the entire day discussing civil rights.

Well when Syracuse embeds a sleeper cell....

 

[Dooley]

Cincinnati is creating positive buzz. I would love to get an article written about the funding UConn will get to make Rentschler Field scoreboard improvements. I know it's not the same as expansion, but at least it's a start.

Now that Nippert = Rentschler Field in capacity, they have a big advantage since they are "old". FranktheTank made mention in his defense of RU for a B1G invite that old matters. A 40K stadium that is old > a 40K stadium that is new and built on an airstrip.

UConn needs to decide whether or not expand the Rent or save their pennies to construct something on campus in the 2020s. Unfortunately for us, the 2020s won't help us in the 2013s.

 

[whaler11]

'Old' might matter but Cincinnati probably is headed towards being the best program outside the Big 5. The shadow that OSU casts in Ohio is their problem. They can never compete with that gorilla.

 

[jostar1]

1. MHr3‏@MHr326 Jun
2. Also who should Cincy be thanking for their stadium remodel? WVU. More specifically Oliver Luck and Whit Babcock

• 1. lgm‏@letsgomtnrs26 Jun
  2. @MH3 Why Ollie??
  1. MH3‏@MH326 Jun
  2. @letsgomtnrs He's the one that got the B12 to give you guys an improvement plan for membership. Biggest item? stadium renovation
  1. Ryan James‏@SenatorRJames26 Jun
  2. “@MHr3: He's the one that got the B12 to give you guys an improvement plan for membership. Biggest item? stadium renovation” -how do u no?
  • • MHr3‏@MH326 Jun
  1. @SenatorRJames He did. He worked very closely with Whit on that. I hope it works out. We need a close conference mate.

 

[cardsfan123]

This is the perception against UConn with respect to the Big 12, but there are counterarguments to this. A lot of people seem to assume that BYU is geographically friendly for the Big 12, but it's actually as much of a geographic outlier for the Big 12 as West Virginia (only going west instead of east). A Big 12 expansion with both Cincinnati and UConn (in conjunction with WVU) would provide a more geographically compact eastern wing of the league compared to any combo with BYU. I'm not saying that's a slam dunk argument (as BYU's perceived football value may trump everything in the same manner that WVU did as a favorite of TV executives), but I also don't think geography in and of itself is a dealbreaker since WVU is already there. UConn's surrogates in the media and PR circles need to get the message out where the general public at least comes away thinking, "UConn in an expanded Big 12 actually isn't that bad geographically."

There's also the perception that BYU has a much stronger commitment to football than UConn which is proven by on the field results. The Big 12 in reality doesn't give a rat's ass about what's in WVU's best interests, and they certainly aren't interested in adding a northeastern school with mediocre football to help slightly with WVU's travel at the expense of literally everyone else. Do you think schools in Kansas and Iowa and Texas and Oklahoma want to travel to Connecticut?

Adding UConn does nothing for a Texas based conference. It's Big 10 or bust for you guys.

 

[whaler11]

There's also the perception that BYU has a much stronger commitment to football than UConn which is proven by on the field results. The Big 12 in reality doesn't give a rat's ass about what's in WVU's best interests, and they certainly aren't interested in adding a northeastern school with mediocre football to help slightly with WVU's travel at the expense of literally everyone else. Do you think schools in Kansas and Iowa and Texas and Oklahoma want to travel to Connecticut?

Adding UConn does nothing for a Texas based conference. It's Big 10 or bust for you guys.

Well that's an Illinois fan you are commenting to. BYU might work for the Big 12 but Cincinnati and UConn might work too

 

[WestCoastHusky]

There's also the perception that BYU has a much stronger commitment to football than UConn which is proven by on the field results. The Big 12 in reality doesn't give a rat's ass about what's in WVU's best interests, and they certainly aren't interested in adding a northeastern school with mediocre football to help slightly with WVU's travel at the expense of literally everyone else. Do you think schools in Kansas and Iowa and Texas and Oklahoma want to travel to Connecticut?

Adding UConn does nothing for a Texas based conference. It's Big 10 or bust for you guys.

You never know. B12 could be desperate like the ACC. After all, they added a school with 3rd grade academics and a mediocre football program. It is all about at the right place at the right time.

 

[WestHartHusk]

There's also the perception that BYU has a much stronger commitment to football than UConn which is proven by on the field results. The Big 12 in reality doesn't give a rat's ass about what's in WVU's best interests, and they certainly aren't interested in adding a northeastern school with mediocre football to help slightly with WVU's travel at the expense of literally everyone else. Do you think schools in Kansas and Iowa and Texas and Oklahoma want to travel to Connecticut?

Adding UConn does nothing for a Texas based conference. It's Big 10 or bust for you guys.

Not to ruin your post with facts, but both Kansas and Texas have already travelled to CT so I'm not sure it's such a huge deal.

 

[upstater]

Well that's an Illinois fan you are commenting to. BYU might work for the Big 12 but Cincinnati and UConn might work too

Well, that's a bigtime troll you're commenting to, as he's proven over and over again.

 

[cardsfan123]

You never know. B12 could be desperate like the ACC. After all, they added a school with 3rd grade academics and a mediocre football program. It is all about at the right place at the right time.

If Louisville football is "mediocre" what is Connecticut football? Abysmal? Comical? Irrelevant? At the very least when our coaches cut and run they go to respectable programs like Michigan State, Oklahoma, and the Atlanta Falcons. Your coaches leaves you for programs like Maryland.

Two straight 5-7 seasons would result in the department cleaning house here, but it's just enough to get an extension at UConn. You guys keep touting your academics as if they mean anything in the grand scheme of realignment, yet you're too stupid to realize your head football coach is scamming your AD for every penny it's worth. But then again, that's why you're in the AAC.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

If Louisville football is "mediocre" what is Connecticut football? Abysmal? Comical? Irrelevant? At the very least when our coaches cut and run they go to respectable programs like Michigan State, Oklahoma, and the Atlanta Falcons. Your coaches leaves you for programs like Maryland.

Two straight 5-7 seasons would result in the department cleaning house here, but it's just enough to get an extension at UConn. You guys keep touting your academics as if they mean anything in the grand scheme of realignment, yet you're too stupid to realize your head football coach is scamming your AD for every penny it's worth. But then again, that's why you're in the AAC.

As bad is our football program according to you, we are .500 against the "mighty" UL. We also have more players in the NFL than UL despite having a way shorter history. What does that say about UL football?

If I am an UL fan, I would pucker up to FSU AD's ass and kiss it every night. Without FSU, you would be nowhere near the ACC. Timing was right for UL so congrats. In the grand scheme of things, UL is merely an ugly duckling in the ACC.

 

[upstater]

If Louisville football is "mediocre" what is Connecticut football?

A school that beat Ville in its best year and is 4-4 against Ville in the BE.

Two straight 5-7 seasons would result in the department cleaning house here, but it's just enough to get an extension at UConn.

No one got an extension at UConn. Kragthorpe got 3 years. That's what Pasqualoni will get.

You guys keep touting your academics as if they mean anything in the grand scheme of realignment, yet you're too stupid to realize your head football coach is scamming your AD for every penny it's worth. But then again, that's why you're in the AAC.

And Kragthorpe was great. What a loony hypocrite you are.

 

[TRest]

If Louisville football is "mediocre" what is Connecticut football? Abysmal? Comical? Irrelevant? At the very least when our coaches cut and run they go to respectable programs like Michigan State, Oklahoma, and the Atlanta Falcons. Your coaches leaves you for programs like Maryland.

Two straight 5-7 seasons would result in the department cleaning house here, but it's just enough to get an extension at UConn. You guys keep touting your academics as if they mean anything in the grand scheme of realignment, yet you're too stupid to realize your head football coach is scamming your AD for every penny it's worth. But then again, that's why you're in the AAC.

"But it never panned out. With star quarterback Brian Brohm and a talented cast of skill position players returning, Louisville went from the preseason top 10 to 6-6 as the team's defense collapsed. That was followed by seasons of 5-7 and 4-8, as the Cardinals steadily leaked talent and became less competitive in the Big East.
With Louisville expanding Papa John's Cardinal Stadium from 42,000 to more than 60,000 seats and disgruntled fans staying away in droves this season, going forward with Kragthorpe was a no-win proposition. A crowd of only 23,422 attended the finale Friday against Rutgers, many of them using tickets that had been given away by unhappy season-ticket holders."

That's some weak sauce. We will make Bridgewater our bitch again this year.


Not to mention your historic program played its home games in a minor league baseball park until Pizza Pizza stadium was built.

 

[Doggie Style]

If Louisville football is "mediocre" what is Connecticut football? Abysmal? Comical? Irrelevant? At the very least when our coaches cut and run they go to respectable programs like Michigan State, Oklahoma, and the Atlanta Falcons. Your coaches leaves you for programs like Maryland.

Two straight 5-7 seasons would result in the department cleaning house here, but it's just enough to get an extension at UConn. You guys keep touting your academics as if they mean anything in the grand scheme of realignment, yet you're too stupid to realize your head football coach is scamming your AD for every penny it's worth. But then again, that's why you're in the AAC.

Yup, but we still whipped your butt last year though didn't we??

 

[cardsfan123]

As bad is our football program according to you, we are .500 against the "mighty" UL. We also have more players in the NFL than UL despite having a way shorter history. What does that say about UL football?

If I am an UL fan, I would pucker up to FSU AD's ass and kiss it every night. Without FSU, you would be nowhere near the ACC. Timing was right for UL so congrats. In the grand scheme of things, UL is merely an ugly duckling in the ACC.

Keep telling yourself that. Since Louisville was added the ACC has increased its TV deal by 50% and unanimously signed a GoR. FSU and Clemson were ready to bolt when it looked like another stagnant northeastern program was going to be added, and UNC and Virginia weren't far behind. You guys are Boston College Jr. and you know it.

 

[upstater]

Keep telling yourself that. Since Louisville was added the ACC has increased its TV deal by 50% and unanimously signed a GoR. FSU and Clemson were ready to bolt when it looked like another stagnant northeastern program was going to be added, and UNC and Virginia weren't far behind. You guys are Boston College Jr. and you know it.

Yeah, because BC has won multiple national championships, and because BC earns $10 million more than Ville in TV/licensing rights. Yeah, right.

The reason the GOR was signed is because Maryland bolted and FSU was afraid of UNC, Va, NC St, VT doing the same. Case closed.

 

[cardsfan123]

Yeah, because BC has won multiple national championships, and because BC earns $10 million more than Ville in TV/licensing rights. Yeah, right.

The reason the GOR was signed is because Maryland bolted and FSU was afraid of UNC, Va, NC St, VT doing the same. Case closed.

Well we can argue all night but the bottom line is Louisville's conference future is secure while UConn's is not. You guys had best get used to playing Tulane and Temple and Memphis on weekday nights because that's your football schedule for the foreseeable future. And you'd better hope Ollie pans out or you'll REALLY become the next Boston College. Having 0 regional conference rivals tends to do that to a team.

 

[uconNYC]

From a functional standpoint wouldn't a roof over the east stand or heated seats be a better investment than extra seats.

This type of roof seems something that can be added to the Rent with minimal fuss.

 

[upstater]

Well we can argue all night but the bottom line is Louisville's conference future is secure while UConn's is not. You guys had best get used to playing Tulane and Temple and Memphis on weekday nights because that's your football schedule for the foreseeable future. And you'd better hope Ollie pans out or you'll REALLY become the next Boston College. Having 0 regional conference rivals tends to do that to a team.

So you changed the subject I see. Typical.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Keep telling yourself that. Since Louisville was added the ACC has increased its TV deal by 50% and unanimously signed a GoR. FSU and Clemson were ready to bolt when it looked like another stagnant northeastern program was going to be added, and UNC and Virginia weren't far behind. You guys are Boston College Jr. and you know it.

On a scale of 1-10, it sucks how bad to be the #2 team in Kentucky? (clarification: of course I am referring to athletically, academically would be a far lowing rank)

Edit: are you really claiming that L'Ville is the reason the contract went up, for 15 teams. Not, you know, Notre Dame. Or the fact that the contract is underpriced and that ESPN can't afford to let UNC, UVA, FSU, Clemson, VTech walk over to Fox? No, that couldn't be it. It had to be the school that carries one town in Kentucky. You guys are f'in nuts.

 

[huskymedic]

From a functional standpoint wouldn't a roof over the east stand or heated seats be a better investment than extra seats.

This type of roof seems something that can be added to the Rent with minimal fuss.

I really can't tell if you are being sarcastic so if my meter is broke tonight forgive me...

Roof/Heated seats??? WTF?

 

[TRest]

Well we can argue all night but the bottom line is Louisville's conference future is secure while UConn's is not. You guys had best get used to playing Tulane and Temple and Memphis on weekday nights because that's your football schedule for the foreseeable future. And you'd better hope Ollie pans out or you'll REALLY become the next Boston College. Having 0 regional conference rivals tends to do that to a team.

Hey goober, UL is about to have zero regional conference rivals. And will be the hillbilly fanbase to boot, so you're looking like the new BC.

 

[whaler11]

I really can't tell if you are being sarcastic so if my meter is broke tonight forgive me...

Roof/Heated seats??? WTF?

You can't even make some of this stuff up. What the hell would Rentschler need heated seats for. Is UConn moving to the Yukon?

 

[ConnHuskBask]

You can't even make some of this stuff up. What the hell would Rentschler need heated seats for. Is UConn moving to the Yukon?

Per wikipedia:

"Receiving royal assent on March 27, 2002, the federal government modernized the Yukon Act to confirm "Yukon", rather than "Yukon Territory", as the current usage standard."

So, it appears we are the second major rebranding effort in the past decade or so to ditch our full name and just go with UConn.

Maybe we're on to something!

 

[Atross]

OK I quickly scanned this thread and did not see anything about payment. I probably missed it. The question is how is any renovation going to be paid for? Where in the state budget will the dollars come from? If there is a diversion of funds how will that affect the state university system and community colleges? Substantial investment has already been made to upgrade the athletic facilities and in the areas of education and research. Any kind of expense has to be justified especially in regards to a facility that really is not used much over the year. As a UCONN fan of course I want to see a renovation that could get us into a better conference.

Would everyone be willing to pay an additional UCONN tax? Could it be through a sales tax increase , gas tax or as part of the state income tax?

 

[Drew]

OK I quickly scanned this thread and did not see anything about payment. I probably missed it. The question is how is any renovation going to be paid for? Where in the state budget will the dollars come from? If there is a diversion of funds how will that affect the state university system and community colleges? Substantial investment has already been made to upgrade the athletic facilities and in the areas of education and research. Any kind of expense has to be justified especially in regards to a facility that really is not used much over the year. As a UCONN fan of course I want to see a renovation that could get us into a better conference.

Would everyone be willing to pay an additional UCONN tax? Could it be through a sales tax increase , gas tax or as part of the state income tax?

They can frame it as an academic building. Thats what Nebraska did to get an addition to their East stadium this year. The football stadium houses all football offices, as well as a multitude of research labs for med and kinesiology students. There are study lounges, and even classrooms (sort of like the area inside gampel that currently houses Sports Management and our compliance offices). If UConn were to build an on campus stadium they would have to house multiple academic and university offices/spaces inside the stadium to get it passed through the state budget IMO. Concerts not only for UConn but for Mansfield in general would be another good use of the stadium. State fairs, high school state championships for football, soccer, lax, field hockey, etc all would/should be played there. You would have to sell it more as an investment in the entire university and state rather than just in UConn football.

 

[UCFBfan]

They can frame it as an academic building. Thats what Nebraska did to get an addition to their East stadium this year. The football stadium houses all football offices, as well as a multitude of research labs for med and kinesiology students. There are study lounges, and even classrooms (sort of like the area inside gampel that currently houses Sports Management and our compliance offices). If UConn were to build an on campus stadium they would have to house multiple academic and university offices/spaces inside the stadium to get it passed through the state budget IMO. Concerts not only for UConn but for Mansfield in general would be another good use of the stadium. State fairs, high school state championships for football, soccer, lax, field hockey, etc all would/should be played there. You would have to sell it more as an investment in the entire university and state rather than just in UConn football.

Have you ever been to Storrs? No offense but the people of Mansfield don't want concerts and the infrastructure wouldn't support all those cars.

Interesting points though on how these expansions get passed. I never knew that but it's pretty sly on the school's part.

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[Drew]

Have you ever been to Storrs? No offense but the people of Mansfield don't want concerts and the infrastructure wouldn't support all those cars.

Interesting points though on how these expansions get passed. I never knew that but it's pretty sly on the school's part.

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I'm a student at UConn currently. What I meant by my comment about concerts for Mansfield was just having "open" concerts during Spring/Summer months in addition to the "UConn" concerts which allow priority to students with lower ticket pricing. Bigger bands that want to come in the summer (Dave Matthews, most country singers, etc) could play there and they would have the ability to sell it as a state event rather than a UConn event is what I was getting at.

As far as the stadium constructions, its all pretty cool when you really think about what has to get done to get that kind of stuff passed. I don't really think our state legislature in CT is that much different from the state legislature in Nebraska (despite difference in conservative/liberal office holders). Its just that Nebraska has more football history and their University does a marvelous job of spinning football investments to benefit the entire university/state while still being a "football" facility. People fear building something that is so costly to the state to only get used 7 or 8 times per year, which is why they have to include all the extra amenities to go with it.Really pretty cool stuff.

 

[upstater]

Have you ever been to Storrs? No offense but the people of Mansfield don't want concerts and the infrastructure wouldn't support all those cars.

Interesting points though on how these expansions get passed. I never knew that but it's pretty sly on the school's part.

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Schools don't have to be sly at all. They can do whatever they want. Athletics are part of universities. Schools can say, "Lookit, we're building a football stadium!"