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huskymedic said:
It's only going to get harder to schedule quality FBS schools in the future.
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When UConn gets into a P5 they can be a little more selective. OK, a lot more. Until then, lock up as many P5s as you can get.
 
ruskin said:
You forgot Nebraska I believe. And Florida was already locked into that schedule.

Well looks like "anytime, anywhere" not the majority view.
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Florida did it year after yer. Who knows, it may have been political. But the Florida series was 1:1 yearly for at least a decade.
 
huskymedic said:
The question isn't necessarily what they are doing now and in future schedules, it's what did they do before they were established as a national program. Wasn't very easy to get teams to go out and play on the blue field in Idaho so they went where they had to to build the credibility. Now Boise is much more selective.

It's only going to get harder to schedule quality FBS schools in the future.
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The Boise empire was built by getting flunkies who couldn't get admitted into big time schools and WINNING the big time games they scheduled. Scheduling big time opponents and getting slaughtered does nothing for us. And, as much as we think it's a big deal......nobody outside of NE will care for a game against BC. And beating them.....isn't going to garner much traction in the world of CR. In fact, it won't mean a damn thing. The damage to our perception is simply not worth scheduling this game.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
The Boise empire was built by getting flunkies who couldn't get admitted into big time schools and WINNING the big time games they scheduled. Scheduling big time opponents and getting slaughtered does nothing for us. And, as much as we think it's a big deal......nobody outside of NE will care for a game against BC. And beating them.....isn't going to garner much traction in the world of CR. In fact, it won't mean a damn thing. The damage to our perception is simply not worth scheduling this game.
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You can't win the big time games if you don't schedule the big time games.

I was talking generically - not specific to the BC game (though I would like to see a UConn/BC series again in the future).
 
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Jimmy Serrano said:
And, as much as we think it's a big deal......nobody outside of NE will care for a game against BC. And beating them.....isn't going to garner much traction in the world of CR. In fact, it won't mean a damn thing. The damage to our perception is simply not worth scheduling this game.
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Before you rebuild national perception, you rebuild local. I don't care if the SEC could give a crap about a BC-UConn game. They're 90 miles away and the closest FBS and P5. Not playing them even on "their terms" makes UConn look like delusional p u s s i e s. I hate them, their preppie arrogance, DeFillippo's war on UConn, and everything else about The Heights. But play the damn game on an annual basis. Good programs are built on good rivalries
 
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huskymedic said:
You can't win the big time games if you don't schedule the big time games.

I was talking generically - not specific to the BC game.
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No one here objects to big time games.
 
hthusky74 said:
Not pride self-respect. Screw ND, BC and anyone else. If they won't play us home and home the heck with them. If you think like a loser than you are a loser!
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there is a difference between thinking like a loser, and knowing what you have to do to move up. If we want to think like a 'winner' we are going to be stuck in the AAC for a long time to come
 
hthusky74 said:
Well stated Upstater. If you cave in to BC, or any other team for that matter, you will have a big "L" imprinted on your forehead. Then all future negotiations with other teams will have us dealing from a position of weakness. The reason we are not in a major conference now is because Hathaway and the administration were a bunch of wimps and did not take forceful action. If we continue to display that big L on our foreheads you can forget about getting into a major conference. It's all a matter of perception and we are perceived as wimps. All we can do is turn Blumenthal lose on them in the courts. Wow, how impressive and effective that was. Best course of action, hopefully hire a quality coach, start winning some games again and continue scheduling as we have been. We have a lot of great teams on our future schedules. We need to be vigorous in continuing to schedule teams like that, but that doesn't mean we sell our soul to do it. As far as BC goes, I view them as a mid major and don't have much of an interest in seeing them play anyway.
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I don't have the link but didn't Cincinnati just ink a one-off, paycheck away game? That didn't seem to stop them from doing this series...
 
huskymedic said:
You can't win the big time games if you don't schedule the big time games.

I was talking generically - not specific to the BC game (though I would like to see a UConn/BC series again in the future).
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BC is not a big time team. It would be great to play them, but only on equal terms, they are not worth bending over for. The precedent that would set would be dangerous. I'd rather see one for one's with BYU or Boise both of which are better football brands than BC.

Should we bend over and do a 3-1 for Syracuse and Rutgers too?
 
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jbdphi said:
I don't have the link but didn't Cincinnati just ink a one-off, paycheck away game? That didn't seem to stop them from doing this series...
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Against who?
 
ruskin said:
Before you rebuild national perception, you rebuild local. I don't care if the SEC could give a crap about a BC-UConn game. They're 90 miles away and the closest FBS and P5. Not playing them even on "their terms" makes UConn look like delusional p u s s i e s.
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Nope, playing them on unequal terms makes UCONN look weak.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Nope, playing them on unequal terms makes UCONN look weak.
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umm I hate to bring this up but the reason UC looks weak is, because it is. We are an orphan on a doorstep, the big loser in CR, the last chicken wing on the plate that everyone is afraid to eat. We are the land of misfit toys at this point. As far as I see it, especially after this year, I would be glad that any P5 team would play us, on any terms
 
huskymedic said:
You can't win the big time games if you don't schedule the big time games.

I was talking generically - not specific to the BC game (though I would like to see a UConn/BC series again in the future).
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metsfan2323 said:
BC is not a big time team. It would be great to play them, but only on equal terms, they are not worth bending over for. The precedent that would set would be dangerous. I'd rather see one for one's with BYU or Boise both of which are better football brands than BC.

Should we bend over and do a 3-1 for Syracuse and Rutgers too?
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Cripes - What part of "I was talking generically - not specific to the BC game" did you miss?
 
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jbdphi said:
I found the link. Cincinnati signed a deal to play at Michigan in a paycheck game.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/03/cincinnati-to-play-at-michigan-in-2017/

Miami must have thought this made them look really weak to have signed a home and away series.

It's amazing to me how much more the people on this board know than GM's of major universities. Such untapped talent...
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I'll say this again because it's been said a few times already. People here have no objection to giving away games. To good teams.

You guys are putting BC up there with Notre Dame and Michigan. It is absolute madness. Glad you guys aren't running anything for the school.
 
jbdphi said:
I found the link. Cincinnati signed a deal to play at Michigan in a paycheck game.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2013/03/cincinnati-to-play-at-michigan-in-2017/

Miami must have thought this made them look really weak to have signed a home and away series.

It's amazing to me how much more the people on this board know than GM's of major universities. Such untapped talent...
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And it was tied to a hoop series! -- Gee, too bad we're not capable of doing that
 
metsfan2323 said:
Nope, playing them on unequal terms makes UCONN look weak.
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To who? People on this board? The people who make decisions on CR? Whitey Bulger?

2-1-1 is slightly unequal, if that.

False pride will kill this program quicker than Gene DeFilippo could have dreamed
 
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upstater said:
I'll say this again because it's been said a few times already. People here have no objection to giving away games. To good teams.

You guys are putting BC up there with Notre Dame and Michigan. It is absolute madness. Glad you guys aren't running anything for the school.
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And you guys think making a temporary bow to them is like having your manhood cut off.
 
upstater said:
I'll say this again because it's been said a few times already. People here have no objection to giving away games. To good teams.

You guys are putting BC up there with Notre Dame and Michigan. It is absolute madness. Glad you guys aren't running anything for the school.
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Haven't people on this board also complained that we haven't scheduled a single P5 game since we were left in the Land of Misfit Toys? As if signing a series with Indiana or Wake Forest would be a better game than BYU or Boise. BC, like it or not, is a P5 team. For five years down the road are we really supposed to try and distinguish between which P5 team we think is going to be really good then as opposed to the ones that might be marginally good or great? What crystal ball are you using?

Tennessee and Baylor are great examples of this. Tennessee was a blue blood of college football for years and years and (except in their own eyes) they just aren't anymore. Baylor on the other hand has gone from perennial doormat to being a Top 25 program for a few years in a row. Doesn't make them a blue blood by any stretch but if we were playing them this year it would look like a very high quality game on our schedule (and heaven forbid what that score would look like).

I don't think we have the luxury or the foresight to distinguish much between P5 teams.
 
ruskin said:
To who? People on this board? The people who make decisions on CR? Whitey Bulger?

2-1-1 is slightly unequal, if that.

False pride will kill this program quicker than Gene DeFilippo could have dreamed
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I would tell BC that we will agree to play them once. In return, if they improve their program we will return the favor and play them in MA.
 
huskymedic said:
The question isn't necessarily what they are doing now and in future schedules, it's what did they do before they were established as a national program. Wasn't very easy to get teams to go out and play on the blue field in Idaho so they went where they had to to build the credibility. Now Boise is much more selective.

It's only going to get harder to schedule quality FBS schools in the future.
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I hate to break it to you, but the most important game in Boise's history was the Bowl game against Oklahoma. they played Oregon St at home in Boise in the 2nd game of a home-home with the Beavers that season. They took an occassional money game or a 1-off before that but it was harldy a regular thing for them.
 
freescooter said:
I hate to break it to you, but the most important game in Boise's history was the Bowl game against Oklahoma. they played Oregon St at home in Boise in the 2nd game of a home-home with the Beavers that season. They took an occassional money game or a 1-off before that but it was harldy a regular thing for them.
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More regular than being portrayed. They've played 'neutral' games at FedEx outside DC (Virginia Tech) and Atlanta (Georgia).
 
jbdphi said:
Haven't people on this board also complained that we haven't scheduled a single P5 game since we were left in the Land of Misfit Toys? As if signing a series with Indiana or Wake Forest would be a better game than BYU or Boise. BC, like it or not, is a P5 team. For five years down the road are we really supposed to try and distinguish between which P5 team we think is going to be really good then as opposed to the ones that might be marginally good or great? What crystal ball are you using?

Tennessee and Baylor are great examples of this. Tennessee was a blue blood of college football for years and years and (except in their own eyes) they just aren't anymore. Baylor on the other hand has gone from perennial doormat to being a Top 25 program for a few years in a row. Doesn't make them a blue blood by any stretch but if we were playing them this year it would look like a very high quality game on our schedule (and heaven forbid what that score would look like).

I don't think we have the luxury or the foresight to distinguish much between P5 teams.
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When in your entire lifetime has BC been a powerhouse? Let me explain this more succinctly: in all its years in the BE, BC never once managed to finish higher than 3rd place.
 
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Today I learned that BC may be one of the top teams in America in a few years.
 
And today I learned that some people's hatred of BC has clouded their vision of what would be an obvious move to help put UConn's program back on its feet. . . . by the way Addazio is candidate for coach of the year now. I wish nothing but bad things for BC but talking smack about a program that clearly made strides this year compared to the crapshow at the Rent is 100 percent delusional.
 
ruskin said:
And today I learned that some people's hatred of BC has clouded their vision of what would be an obvious move to help put UConn's program back on its feet. . . . by the way Addazio is candidate for coach of the year now. I wish nothing but bad things for BC but talking smack about a program that clearly made strides this year compared to the crapshow at the Rent is 100 percent delusional.
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1 and 1 BC offers us little. 3 for 1 they offer us negatives.
 
ruskin said:
And today I learned that some people's hatred of BC has clouded their vision of what would be an obvious move to help put UConn's program back on its feet. . . . by the way Addazio is candidate for coach of the year now. I wish nothing but bad things for BC but talking smack about a program that clearly made strides this year compared to the crapshow at the Rent is 100 percent delusional.
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giving BC away games would out UConn back on its feet.

Now I've heard it all.
 
upstater said:
giving BC away games would out UConn back on its feet.

Now I've heard it all.
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No one is "giving away" anything. It's not like we'd be paying BC for the privilege. This would HELP put UConn back on its feet. A place it will have a tough time getting if it acts it can unilaterally pick and choose its way to a path to get into a better conference.
 
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