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It's not a matter of starting or coming off the bench for Polley.

It's that force-feeding him the ball doesn't work when opposing teams know they just need to play him tight. He's no threat off the dribble and don't need to respect it.

Most of our worst sequences are a forced Polley 3 leading to a runout on the other end.

Polley had 3 good halves while the Big East figured out how to play him. Yesterday, and against St John’s, his man never left him at the three point line. Never. That opens up two things. First, it means our other 4 are being guarded with one less defender playing help defense. Unfortunately, without Bouk we’re not talented enough offensively to exploit it. Second, it opens up Pollley to stop playing entirely at the 3 point line and either looking for hard cuts inside without the ball or pumpfakes and taking his man off the dribble. Polley appears unwilling to do either.
 
Quite frankly, when some posters a few weeks ago were advocating a high national ranking, Chief exercised caution. Without Bouknight, offense comes really hard for this group. Our defense and rebounding is good but Creighton had matchups where they could take us off the dribble. That really hurt and got us in foul trouble.

Chief thinks this Tyler scoring off the bench concept is overdone - we can’t afford a scoring drought to open up the game against a good team and wait 6 minutes before we have an outside threat. Too many bad habits form. The game is too ugly by then and the flow is bad. Today he was Artic cold coming off the bench.

Whaley looks really bad offensively, he’s rushing everything and not exhibiting good hands or judgement. I think Gaffney is the guy who we can get more offense from and he’s got to start being assertive.

Agree with Donny, our Bigs have trouble enough scoring in the post, why do we give them the ball so far away from the hoop? Ends in disaster too often.

While our defense was good too often our center is doubling a guard over 20 feet away from the hoop that leads to a mad scramble, which leads to a foul or a mismatch drive. This is why teams think they can beat us playing small. Bigs fouls caused by bad scheme given personnel. In the second half Creighton was brilliant exploiting mismatches.

Sanogo is the only Big who has any moves in the post with the hands, strength and touch to finish. Our offense needs to work through him. He needs to be confident he will get that pass and that means he’s got to be willing to give it up if nothing is there. Great offensive rebounding but Josh and Whaley finishing with bad hands and lack of power today.
Tough to win when you shoot 35% FG and 20% from 4. Cole, Martin and Sanogo were the only ones who played well offensively and Adama had around 5 turnovers.

Agree with most Chief but not Tyler and starting. The "droughts to start" have been few and far between minus yesterday actually a change with this team finding ways to get out to leads. I mean 19-7 lead against the Johnnies before Tyler saw a second of play can't ask for better than that.

Whaley wow, so much to like about him but if you dig hard right now he killed us yesterday. I mean missed bunnies galore, in one sequence missed a bunny tip in which right after he got the rebound and missed a wide open freebie. 4-5 easy ones at least yesterday have to finish those. Also off the ball defense has been lackluster as he's been caught worrying about making plays off the ball rather than tending to his own guy. Jefferson torched him twice on baseline as he was making up for space he had left by rushing out without control and was burnt by 23 getting to the hoop. Have you noticed the opponents trying to NOT screen as much with the man he defends because they know the impact he has on the screen and role? We rarely see him making those plays anymore because coaches aren't setting their players up in that situation. He needs to guard his man better because he can, help off the ball only when needed or in his area and box people out. He's smart and tough enough for all of that, need him to concentrate on doing his job rather than everyones.

Agree on way too many bigs getting the ball too high and no one around. Sanogo, Whaley and Carlton all with it too many times on top and way too many bad things can happen in that situation. There's no Jake V or Travis K who you can pretty much guarantee you can throw it to and they will make a play or at least the right decision. Needs to be tempered for sure.

Mahaney and Jefferson killed us, that's the match up that will hurt us all the time. The 6'4-6'5 guy who can take it to the hole, make a 3 or pull up for a jumper. Adams is ok against it but gets beat, Cole and Gaff no shot, Polley has not regained any quickness in his lateral movement and is getting torched on that end. Bouk was improved on D as well, his length gave some of these guys fits I don't think we realize just how much we miss him. We have no answers for some match ups at this point, all the more reason to occasionally mix in a zone with this crew.

Cole played fine, I mean he seems to be getting better game by game and hopefully will be even more of an impact with Bouk back, hope it means something at that point. Gaffney actually mad a couple nice plays finally going to the basket then got hurt. Still can't guard anyone but at least he came off screens 2 times in a matter of minutes and didn't just go east-west but instead tried to make a play, good sign? (Pretty strange it was the same situation almost as Bueckers the other night, great pass then an awkward ankle turn)

We (I) put a lot of blame on Dan H for the Johnnies but let's be sure to take all of that off for this one. Our kids had their chances, he put them in the best position to win this one but the constant missed bunnies, the inability to get good shots off unless early in the clock and just some very bad D lost this one. They played hard, made a couple runs but don't have enough offense to finish a run.

The fence will be a welcome place when Bouk returns because if we're not on it that means there were too many games like yesterday. Go Huskies, big week need to be 2-1...
 
IMO. The argument could be made that our three best athletes also happen to be injured. Notice I said athletes. Why? Because until or if they return. We may not always be the more athletic team as compared to our opponents.

What can you do about it? Among other things. Play great defense-esp. help defense.. Control the Boards. And win ugly. Do what you do well and try to impose your will on opponents through toughness and execution. Effort being the key.

I believe that we are still a Tournament team with our injured players back and a strong BET showing.

Never thought I would say this but in Bouk's absence. Starting to look like Adama's team.
I like @formerlurker's Like.
I love the Unami Zen name.
I wonder where this will lead.
I'm enjoying Adama's growing.
I still think commas work better.
 
Agree with most Chief but not Tyler and starting. The "droughts to start" have been few and far between minus yesterday actually a change with this team finding ways to get out to leads. I mean 19-7 lead against the Johnnies before Tyler saw a second of play can't ask for better than that.

Whaley wow, so much to like about him but if you dig hard right now he killed us yesterday. I mean missed bunnies galore, in one sequence missed a bunny tip in which right after he got the rebound and missed a wide open freebie. 4-5 easy ones at least yesterday have to finish those. Also off the ball defense has been lackluster as he's been caught worrying about making plays off the ball rather than tending to his own guy. Jefferson torched him twice on baseline as he was making up for space he had left by rushing out without control and was burnt by 23 getting to the hoop. Have you noticed the opponents trying to NOT screen as much with the man he defends because they know the impact he has on the screen and role? We rarely see him making those plays anymore because coaches aren't setting their players up in that situation. He needs to guard his man better because he can, help off the ball only when needed or in his area and box people out. He's smart and tough enough for all of that, need him to concentrate on doing his job rather than everyones.

Agree on way too many bigs getting the ball too high and no one around. Sanogo, Whaley and Carlton all with it too many times on top and way too many bad things can happen in that situation. There's no Jake V or Travis K who you can pretty much guarantee you can throw it to and they will make a play or at least the right decision. Needs to be tempered for sure.

Mahaney and Jefferson killed us, that's the match up that will hurt us all the time. The 6'4-6'5 guy who can take it to the hole, make a 3 or pull up for a jumper. Adams is ok against it but gets beat, Cole and Gaff no shot, Polley has not regained any quickness in his lateral movement and is getting torched on that end. Bouk was improved on D as well, his length gave some of these guys fits I don't think we realize just how much we miss him. We have no answers for some match ups at this point, all the more reason to occasionally mix in a zone with this crew.

Cole played fine, I mean he seems to be getting better game by game and hopefully will be even more of an impact with Bouk back, hope it means something at that point. Gaffney actually mad a couple nice plays finally going to the basket then got hurt. Still can't guard anyone but at least he came off screens 2 times in a matter of minutes and didn't just go east-west but instead tried to make a play, good sign? (Pretty strange it was the same situation almost as Bueckers the other night, great pass then an awkward ankle turn)

We (I) put a lot of blame on Dan H for the Johnnies but let's be sure to take all of that off for this one. Our kids had their chances, he put them in the best position to win this one but the constant missed bunnies, the inability to get good shots off unless early in the clock and just some very bad D lost this one. They played hard, made a couple runs but don't have enough offense to finish a run.

The fence will be a welcome place when Bouk returns because if we're not on it that means there were too many games like yesterday. Go Huskies, big week need to be 2-1...
Good points. I hope Gaffney’s ankle improves, can’t remember if it’s the same one as early last season? No question Bouknight is the key and teams game plan us better now that we have played a few games without James. Increasingly looking like pretty much a wasted year for Akok and as I said preseason that’s not surprising given his injury and now a leg injury.
i wish they almost wouldn’t count an offensive rebound if a guy misses a putback. IW missed too many easy ones as did Josh.
 
Never thought I would say this but in Bouk's absence. Starting to look like Adama's team.
No doubt in my mind it should be but the question is do his teammates have that recognition?
 
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1. It's so blatantly obvious that UConn needs a pure shooter - someone who has confidence in his shot and is sure every one he throws up from anywhere on the court is going in. It would help tremendously if the same guy could play a little defense. There's a lot of those kids out there and nearly every successful team has at least one.
2. This team is going no where fast without a PG that can penetrate and distribute, someone who is not afraid to initiate contact. This PG also needs to play D with determination. Haven't seen that in a while. Gaff had 2 nice dishes today but his foot speed is non existent.
3. I have no issue with IW throwing up some 3s. In fact he passed up on way too many open shots today. He had a miserable day offensively near the hoop but we have seen what he brings to the floor - he is not the issue.
4. Why can't Springs get a bit of PT especially with Akok sitting?
5. Yeah Polley had a few nice games but he sure doesn't play like a senior. If he can't create a shot for himself he is basically useless. His D is getting worse. Scoreless today?
6. Sanogo will be a beast next year and beyond. Tough game in some respects but a very good game in other aspects.
7. I thought Martin did a better job at trying to create and drive to the hoop. He also had a sub par game and I felt Dan Hurley should have had him on Jefferson from the start.
8. Cole is mentally a scorer but this ain't Howard
9. Can UConn please practice a little zone and throw it in when the opponent is chewing up the man to man with better athletes and bad match-ups?

Knew it wasn't going to be easy playing at a ranked team that was coming off 2 consecutive losses but as much as I was impressed with UConn's ability to come back a few times today, the lack of an offensive system is annoying.
On with Butler
Can we get a solid bit of info on Bouks rehab time?
This team has a number of 'alternative' ways to win, and may or may not get over that hurdle.

Last year, it was about getting & keeping late leads, and the season closed with great hope after multiple "excruciating" losses.

With so many shifting variables, it will take deft coaching, resilience, and persistence to compensate for the current sustained loss of 3 NBA 'types,' only one of whom was performing to type before going out.

Where it was shot-blocking in previous years, it's rebounding this year.
I like that foul shooting improved yesterday.
Shots around the basket need to be next.

We'll see.
I'll watch.
 
Quite frankly, when some posters a few weeks ago were advocating a high national ranking, Chief exercised caution. Without Bouknight, offense comes really hard for this group. Our defense and rebounding is good but Creighton had matchups where they could take us off the dribble. That really hurt and got us in foul trouble.

Chief thinks this Tyler scoring off the bench concept is overdone - we can’t afford a scoring drought to open up the game against a good team and wait 6 minutes before we have an outside threat. Too many bad habits form. The game is too ugly by then and the flow is bad. Today he was Artic cold coming off the bench.

Whaley looks really bad offensively, he’s rushing everything and not exhibiting good hands or judgement. I think Gaffney is the guy who we can get more offense from and he’s got to start being assertive.

Agree with Donny, our Bigs have trouble enough scoring in the post, why do we give them the ball so far away from the hoop? Ends in disaster too often.

While our defense was good too often our center is doubling a guard over 20 feet away from the hoop that leads to a mad scramble, which leads to a foul or a mismatch drive. This is why teams think they can beat us playing small. Bigs fouls caused by bad scheme given personnel. In the second half Creighton was brilliant exploiting mismatches.

Sanogo is the only Big who has any moves in the post with the hands, strength and touch to finish. Our offense needs to work through him. He needs to be confident he will get that pass and that means he’s got to be willing to give it up if nothing is there. Great offensive rebounding but Josh and Whaley finishing with bad hands and lack of power today.
Tough to win when you shoot 35% FG and 20% from 4. Cole, Martin and Sanogo were the only ones who played well offensively and Adama had around 5 turnovers.

20% from 4 Chief? Edjumacate us casuals, please.
 
This team has a number of 'alternative' ways to win, and may or may not get over that hurdle.

Last year, it was about getting & keeping late leads, and the season closed with great hope after multiple "excruciating" losses.

With so many shifting variables, it will take deft coaching, resilience, and persistence to compensate for the current sustained loss of 3 NBA 'types,' only one of whom was performing to type before going out.

Where it was shot-blocking in previous years, it's rebounding this year.
I like that foul shooting improved yesterday.
Shots around the basket need to be next.

We'll see.
I'll watch.
Truly great post. At ease yet hopeful. Perfect.
 
20% from 4 Chief? Edjumacate us casuals, please.
As everyone saw yesterday, we are very limited offensively. The shooting percentages and lack of assists speak for themselves.
 
As everyone saw yesterday, we are very limited offensively. The shooting percentages and lack of assists speak for thenselves.

Sure we are limited offensively without Bouk. You take guys like Bouk, Akok, and Jackson out of the mix and you are left with lots of flashes, but nothing sustained.

In short:
Gaffney isn't there yet, Sanogo only has 10 college games in, RJ and Tyrese are still adjusting to moving up a level, Polley needs to add some fire to his great shooting stroke, Josh shows flashes but consistency is not his strong suit, Whaley has improved dramatically but may have plateaued, Adams is solid but never envisioned as a star...the team is what it is as presently constructed. Easy to love and root for, but flawed. Imagine a healthy Bouk, Jackson with lots more minutes, and Akok protecting the rim. A vastly different team and certainly formidable.

Loved the 81% shooting from the line yesterday, that was clearly an area of emphasis during this week's practices. A big step in the right direction. If and when this team gets healthy and progresses normally this could still be a whole lot of fun.
 
Good points. I hope Gaffney’s ankle improves, can’t remember if it’s the same one as early last season? No question Bouknight is the key and teams game plan us better now that we have played a few games without James. Increasingly looking like pretty much a wasted year for Akok and as I said preseason that’s not surprising given his injury and now a leg injury.
i wish they almost wouldn’t count an offensive rebound if a guy misses a putback. IW missed too many easy ones as did Josh.
Gaffney needs more than improvement to his ankle. Seems like a great kid and I'm sure he's a hard worker but he just doesn't look like a P6 pg. I hope I'm wrong but other than ft shooting Jalen is a liability out there. He can still make a big jump but it wouldn't surprise me if Diggins plays more minutes next season.

Martin has to be more assertive. With JB out he is the only one who can create his own shot.

Sanogo just needs more reps and he will be a monster. So glad he reclassified and came here.
 
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20% from 4 Chief? Edjumacate us casuals, please.

I think Chief was referring to our 2-11 (18.18%) from three first half, which admittedly ignores our 5-12 (41.67%) second half, which contributed to our overall 7-23 (30.4%)total for the game.

However, if we did shoot a measly 20% from the 4, it would be worse than our substandard 30.4% from 3. (in ten attempts we would get only 8 points from shooting the 4, whereas in 10 trips we got 9.12 points from our 30.4% effort from the 3.
 
OK,I think I know what you mean, maybe its just the left brain dominant part of your world view, so I will continue to work on my make believe punctuation, with the same fervor as I have in the Real World, hoping that it will smooth out any future communication barriers, if you know what I mean??
 
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Sure weuld still be a whole lot of fun.
"the Chief Brand" 🤣
Chief has an unauthentic copycat on Twitter and now a @formerlurker creating various unauthentic Chief00 websites. Then add in the unauthentic conspiracy theories about my associations with another handle to the point they had to switch handles.

All trying to capitalize and monetize on the Chief brand. It’s hard to explain to people since these things don’t typically happen to them.
 
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Your problems identified in paragraphs 2, 3, and 4 should all be correctable with a better offensive concept and better discipline. That does come down to coaching. I am really getting tired of the high weaves against man D.
I really think we lack enough skilled offensive guys, given our injury situation. Even without that, we are very Bouknight dependent and it’s unknown how consistent he can be over a college season and we may never know.
 
Without Bouknight, offense comes really hard for this group
we can’t afford a scoring drought to open up the game against a good team and wait 6 minutes before we have an outside threat.
Tough to win when you shoot 35% FG and 20% from 3
for all these reasons which youve been repeating over the past 2 seasons, are you on the grind for jaylen blakes? if not why not?

we still have 2 schollys open for 2021. shooting is our biggest weakness and it could be even worse next year w/o bouk and polley... blakes is a G whose best attribute is shooting. not to mention he's the only borderline top 100 player in the northeast still uncommitted for 2021. he seems like a natural fit between digg and hawk.

he has a respectable offer list but no one we cant beat out: texas, illinois, rutgers, vtech...we were invovled with him last year but backed off. since then our circumstances have changed. what am i missing?
 
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for all these reasons which youve been repeating over the past 2 years, are you on the grind for jaylen blakes? if not why not?

we still have 2 schollys open for 2021. shooting is our biggest weakness and it looks like it will be even worse next year w/o bouk and polley... blakes is a G whose best attribute is shooting. not to mention he's the only borderline top 100 player in the northeast that's still uncommitted for 2021.

he has a respectable offer list but no one we cant beat out: texas, illinois, rutgers, vtech...we were invovled with him last year but backed off. since then our circumstances have changed. what am i missing?
Fair question, looking forward to Hawkins. But, yes the coaches are looking for another scorer. Because of the special Covid rules and injuries it’s my belief the coaches will look for clarity on certain returnees before filling at least one spot. Justice is definitely a target.
 
for 2021?
for 2021?! that would be....quality
2022. It’s confusing for 2021 because of special Covid rules for returnees. My guess is we will let things sort out and depending on various factors might go for a grad transfer who can score.
Again, we already have Hawkins and Floyd for 2021. Given the injury - is Bouknight still 100% likely gone?
 
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My guess is we will let things sort out and depending on various factors might go for a grad transfer who can score
oh...well thats was why i was curious about the lack of interest in blakes, in particular, for 2021
 
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oh...well thats was why i was curious about the lack of interest in blakes, in particular, for 2021
Due to special one time rules, never has the grid for the next season been filled with so many questions. It’s not just how many players you can carry but how many players you can keep happy. And who you prioritize keeping happy (AKA - playing time). With Tyler, Josh and IW, we could carry additional players, beyond the usual roster size. But, it’s very unlikely we will take full advantage of these rules and it’s unknown who will want to come back.
 
Chief is a busy man, lurker. What with advising Hurley, running Blaze pizza, keeping tabs on Drummond, and most importantly, explaining the intricacies of the game of basketball to the casual fan. And be honest, aren’t we all casual fans in the presence of Chief?
and don't forget posting over 1700 times per year on an internet message board. And that's just from the Chief00 account..
 
Polley had 3 good halves while the Big East figured out how to play him. Yesterday, and against St John’s, his man never left him at the three point line. Never. That opens up two things. First, it means our other 4 are being guarded with one less defender playing help defense. Unfortunately, without Bouk we’re not talented enough offensively to exploit it. Second, it opens up Pollley to stop playing entirely at the 3 point line and either looking for hard cuts inside without the ball or pumpfakes and taking his man off the dribble. Polley appears unwilling to do either.
It’s also our PGs.

I’ve watched players work to get open at the 3 pt line while our PGs wait and watch and stare at the open player, considering whether to pass or not, then giving him the ball when he’s no longer open.

And our PGs have shown no recognition of dropping a pass down to a big who’s rolling to the basket after setting a pick.

Kind of surprised. Dan Hurley was a PG, you’d think that’d be an area of strength. Maybe the best PGs are ‘born’ with those abilities, not something that can be taught (coached up)?

When Andre Jackson is back maybe he should be rotated into the PG slot. He has the best instinctive passing ability on the team. His handle isn’t really good. Maybe point forward.
 
It’s also our PGs.

I’ve watched players work to get open at the 3 pt line while our PGs wait and watch and stare at the open player, considering whether to pass or not, then giving him the ball when he’s no longer open.

And our PGs have shown no recognition of dropping a pass down to a big who’s rolling to the basket after setting a pick.

Kind of surprised. Dan Hurley was a PG, you’d think that’d be an area of strength. Maybe the best PGs are ‘born’ with those abilities, not something that can be taught (coached up)?

When Andre Jackson is back maybe he should be rotated into the PG slot. He has the best instinctive passing ability on the team. His handle isn’t really good. Maybe point forward.
Neither Carlton nor Sanogo has shown the ability to come of the screen, catch the ball on the move, take one dribble and attack the rim. Whenever a guard tries to make that play, unless Whalley is setting the screen, the Center isn't up to it.

That is not the fault of our guards.
 
Neither Carlton nor Sanogo has shown the ability to come of the screen, catch the ball on the move, take one dribble and attack the rim. Whenever a guard tries to make that play, unless Whalley is setting the screen, the Center isn't up to it.

That is not the fault of our guards.
I think Sanogo by far has the best hands and foot work of any of our Bigs. But, granted haven’t seen him do it off the high screens.
 
Neither Carlton nor Sanogo has shown the ability to come of the screen, catch the ball on the move, take one dribble and attack the rim. Whenever a guard tries to make that play, unless Whalley is setting the screen, the Center isn't up to it.

That is not the fault of our guards.
I agree that Carlton doesn’t have the ability to pick, roll, receive the pass, and score.

The two starting post players, Sanogo and Whaley, do. High picks by the center are an integral part of Dan Hurley’s offense. The pick and roll should be a scoring option off that.

When running the weave, the guards have not looked to make that play. I don’t know who’s at fault, but that’s a common PG play that they don’t seem to have any feel for.
 
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